Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Who do you think is better? Ike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Which Ike? FE9 and Sigurd wins easily. FE10 and Sigurd still likely wins, but at least it's a match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Ike auto wins this poll because most of the people here on SF haven't played FE4. That doesn't mean Ike is better, its just the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 (edited) Ike: Overall I'm awesome and badass but early on I'm weak and babied :( Sigurd: I'm the Titania/Seth throughout most of the game and pretty much stay the best until Levin becomes a Demi-God with that blasted Holsety of his and the Leg ring may as well go on him. Tyrfing >>> Ragnell by the way. Ike: Fuck off, it's not my fault they gave characters here steroids instead of some being able to use a broken holy weapon. Least my personality's less bland than yours. Sigurd: I'll take that over Yaoi fangirls any day dood. Edited January 22, 2010 by Zetta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Sigurd. If only people who had played FE4 and FE9/10 voted, it would be a landslide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hm, do I want a Terminator with 9 move and Canto, or a Terminator with 7 mov? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMeatyClawz Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Sigurd, Seth, and FE9 Titania are pretty the top 3 FE units of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 (edited) Which Ike? FE9 and Sigurd wins easily. FE10 and Sigurd still likely wins, but at least it's a match. hmmmm...that's a good question. Well personally, I'd say both because they're still comsider the same character after all. Ike: Overall I'm awesome and badass but early on I'm weak and babied :( Sigurd: I'm the Titania/Seth throughout most of the game and pretty much stay the best until Levin becomes a Demi-God with that blasted Holsety of his and the Leg ring may as well go on him. Tyrfing >>> Ragnell by the way. Ike: Fuck off, it's not my fault they gave characters here steroids instead of some being able to use a broken holy weapon. Least my personality's less bland than yours. Sigurd: I'll take that over Yaoi fangirls any day dood. So...I take it that your vote goes to Sigurd...? Edited January 22, 2010 by Ash Crimson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 So...I take it that your vote goes to Sigurd...? Nope, it definitely goes to Ike because popular means right Yeah it goes to Sigurd. Red Fox and Mekkah said it best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Ike: Overall I'm awesome and badass but early on I'm weak and babied :( Sigurd: I'm the Titania/Seth throughout most of the game and pretty much stay the best until Levin becomes a Demi-God with that blasted Holsety of his and the Leg ring may as well go on him. Tyrfing >>> Ragnell by the way. Ike: Fuck off, it's not my fault they gave characters here steroids instead of some being able to use a broken holy weapon. Least my personality's less bland than yours. Sigurd: I'll take that over Yaoi fangirls any day dood. 9/10. Ike should've blasted him for Diadora. Otherwise, perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlejack Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 The least people could do is check Sigurd's stats out before they vote. Should be Ike Vs. Arum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 (edited) The least people could do is check Sigurd's stats out before they vote. That doesn't help. His speed is "only" 11 at base and his spd growth is "only" 30%. Those don't really look great. Now, to understand Sigurd's awesomeness in fe4 properly you really have to know what the enemy stats are and just what he can do with that Silver Sword and how much it means to have that 9 move. (Technically, you could sell the sword and give it to Ethlin. It wouldn't be smart, but some people don't like the whole optimal allocation of resources thing and call stuff like letting Sigurd have the Silver Sword "favouritism". Of course, those people that cry all that stuff about some characters in fe9 and fe10 don't seem to be saying anything about the fact that Sigurd doesn't have any inherent "right" to the Silver Sword, but oh well. They like Sigurd. Oh, and Lachesis shows up not long afterwards. And Ira probably could use the sword a bit when she first shows up because it has more mt and less wt than her Iron Blade and it'll be a bit before she doesn't care that blades have 60 hit, so the 80 hit on the Silver Sword helps greatly, too.) Edited January 22, 2010 by Narga_Rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 You can't be putting "Who will win", because they are not going to fight, if anything put "Who is better", because certainly, Sigurd is, just look at him, he laughs at enemies, is easy to train for a pre-promote and is awesome until the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 And Ira probably could use the sword a bit when she first shows up because it has more mt and less wt than her Iron Blade and it'll be a bit before she doesn't care that blades have 60 hit, so the 80 hit on the Silver Sword helps greatly, too.) Iron Blade Ayra only gets below 100 hit in Ch1 if she fights things in forests, and I always have her buy a Slim Sword if she really needs to hit to save me. She usually doesn't ORKO without Starlight even with the Iron Blade, so the loss of power doesn't matter much - she can still kill weakened things, or soften up an enemy for someone else to kill. Then in Ch2, she isn't doing jack all, and in Ch3 you have a million new weapons including the Hero and the extra Silver, so it's no longer an issue. Anyway, Sigurd is winning. Awesome. There may still be hope for humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 And Ira probably could use the sword a bit when she first shows up because it has more mt and less wt than her Iron Blade and it'll be a bit before she doesn't care that blades have 60 hit, so the 80 hit on the Silver Sword helps greatly, too.) Iron Blade Ayra only gets below 100 hit in Ch1 if she fights things in forests, and I always have her buy a Slim Sword if she really needs to hit to save me. She usually doesn't ORKO without Starlight even with the Iron Blade, so the loss of power doesn't matter much - she can still kill weakened things, or soften up an enemy for someone else to kill. Then in Ch2, she isn't doing jack all, and in Ch3 you have a million new weapons including the Hero and the extra Silver, so it's no longer an issue. I never said it was a good idea. Just an alternative. Kinda like leaving Adept on Soren in fe10. Maybe it was just coliseum where Ayra had a bunch of hit issues at first. At base she only has 92 hit, so I think I saw her actually miss once or twice even on the field. But I never said giving her Sigurd's sword was an intelligent idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxas Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Eh. Sigurd is a pretty cool guy who doesn't afraid of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 The least people could do is check Sigurd's stats out before they vote. That doesn't help. His speed is "only" 11 at base and his spd growth is "only" 30%. Those don't really look great. Now, to understand Sigurd's awesomeness in fe4 properly you really have to know what the enemy stats are and just what he can do with that Silver Sword and how much it means to have that 9 move. (Technically, you could sell the sword and give it to Ethlin. It wouldn't be smart, but some people don't like the whole optimal allocation of resources thing and call stuff like letting Sigurd have the Silver Sword "favouritism". Of course, those people that cry all that stuff about some characters in fe9 and fe10 don't seem to be saying anything about the fact that Sigurd doesn't have any inherent "right" to the Silver Sword, but oh well. They like Sigurd. Oh, and Lachesis shows up not long afterwards. And Ira probably could use the sword a bit when she first shows up because it has more mt and less wt than her Iron Blade and it'll be a bit before she doesn't care that blades have 60 hit, so the 80 hit on the Silver Sword helps greatly, too.) Sigurd is still better than everyone with just Steel, so even sandbagging him wouldn't help Ike's case D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 The least people could do is check Sigurd's stats out before they vote. That doesn't help. His speed is "only" 11 at base and his spd growth is "only" 30%. Those don't really look great. Now, to understand Sigurd's awesomeness in fe4 properly you really have to know what the enemy stats are and just what he can do with that Silver Sword and how much it means to have that 9 move. (Technically, you could sell the sword and give it to Ethlin. It wouldn't be smart, but some people don't like the whole optimal allocation of resources thing and call stuff like letting Sigurd have the Silver Sword "favouritism". Of course, those people that cry all that stuff about some characters in fe9 and fe10 don't seem to be saying anything about the fact that Sigurd doesn't have any inherent "right" to the Silver Sword, but oh well. They like Sigurd. Oh, and Lachesis shows up not long afterwards. And Ira probably could use the sword a bit when she first shows up because it has more mt and less wt than her Iron Blade and it'll be a bit before she doesn't care that blades have 60 hit, so the 80 hit on the Silver Sword helps greatly, too.) Sigurd is still better than everyone with just Steel, so even sandbagging him wouldn't help Ike's case D: He is? I suppose even if he doesn't ORKO as much it isn't like everyone else is doing anywhere near his damage. Besides, I like having him with the silver sword since I can give Sigurd's steel to Alec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) Well, at least in the first 2 chapters. Fin comes closest to consistent killing (26 atk at base with Steel vs. Sigurd's 24/28 with Stl/Silver at base, iirc he only misses stuff he can't double), but has WTD rather than A, although Prayer is cool considering everything that's not a boss has Iron Cuan relies on ~20% Adept to kill, but 2HKOs everything with Iron Midir kills if he activates Charge which I'm too lazy to calc its weird formula for, 2HKOs otherwise Azel kills level 1 bandits if he ever reaches them, which ties Steel Noish has a <10% chance to kill stuff with a Crit and 3HKOs or worse otherwise Ayra is in the same boat as Midir, only Astra is more like a ~30% kill, but unmounted is a joke Jamka wins offense but lolbows Everyone else fails, and everyone loses durability and mobility to him. Everyone who pulls a slight lead due to lolRNG is getting shitstomped in durability and/or can't counter at 1 range and as a result also can't run into packs of 10 enemies, laugh in their faces, make crude insults about their mothers, then killing them all without getting below half HP. Although yes, giving him Silver is probably in your best interest so that he can send the Steel to Alec. Edited January 23, 2010 by Paperblade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fia Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Ike: Overall I'm awesome and badass but early on I'm weak and babied :( Sigurd: I'm the Titania/Seth throughout most of the game and pretty much stay the best until Levin becomes a Demi-God with that blasted Holsety of his and the Leg ring may as well go on him. Tyrfing >>> Ragnell by the way. Ike: Fuck off, it's not my fault they gave characters here steroids instead of some being able to use a broken holy weapon. Least my personality's less bland than yours. Sigurd: I'll take that over Yaoi fangirls any day dood. Sigurd's personality >> Ike's personality actually. And Sigurd's background + story is more interesting. kthx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I think FE10 Ike is hilarious, to be honest, and that's the game where he's more bland. Sigurd just strikes me as your standard FE lord, pretty much identical to Roy, Eliwood, Eirika, Leaf, Celice and Marth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlejack Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Pretty much every lord EVER has the same "I'M A NOBLE" personality. Except Hector and FE9 Ike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousefire Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Hard to choose. both of them are army slayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffe Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Pretty much every lord EVER has the same "I'M A NOBLE" personality. Except Hector and FE9 Ike. Is that supposed to be a good thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 FE10 Ike vs. Sigurd = Killing machine with 7 move vs. Killing machine with 9 move and canto. FE9 Ike vs. Sigurd = IKE! STAY BACK!!! (IE Ike gets owned) So Sigurd. Although, I voted for Ike because WE LIKE IKE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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