Deliriyum Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Basically the character who has the worst base stats in comparison to their lvl and joining time. FE8 trainee/recruit/pupil is omitted. I would say Wendy, but there are some prepromotes that give her a run for her money. Also maybe Sue or Thany. Pick who you think has the worst base stats in regard to their level. Inb4Ninodebate(really, her level is her problem, not her bases) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Inb4Ninodebate(really, her level is her problem, not her bases) If it's for their level, there's no way Nino wins this. She has one of the best base stat setups for her level. My initial thought is Cecilia. Her bases look closer to a 10/0 unit than a 20/1 unit (though I guess you could say she's a 10/1 unit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 If it's for their level, there's no way Nino wins this. She has one of the best base stat setups for her level. My initial thought is Cecilia. Her bases look closer to a 10/0 unit than a 20/1 unit (though I guess you could say she's a 10/1 unit). Also joining time plays a factor, but joining time as in the types of enemies the character will be facing. (For example, Zeiss joins just before many nomads if you go Sacae) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Also joining time plays a factor, but joining time as in the types of enemies the character will be facing. (For example, Zeiss joins just before many nomads if you go Sacae) Oh, I guess I missed that part somehow... Then yeah, Wendy probably wins for joining with terrible bases and Lances before you fight a bunch of Axe enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 It's either Yunno, Wendy, or Sophia. At least Wendy has part of a chapter against loldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 It's either Yunno, Wendy, or Sophia. At least Wendy has part of a chapter against loldiers. And Sophia has full movement where others don't? Yeah I overlooked Sophia and she is pretty terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlejack Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Yeah I'm positive that Juno is the worst one other than Wendy. They have the same base DEF for God sake. In fact, let's examine exactly HOW bad Juno's bases are: HP- It actually only beats Marcus's base HP by a whopping 1. STR- Her STR is so bad, it only beats Diecks base STR by 2. SKL- Same base SKL as Marcus and HM Rutgar. SPD- Her only "good" stat, which is still tied with Niime's base SPD. A goddamn DRUID beats Juno. LCK- Like this stat means a damn thing. DEF- Like I said, same base DEF as goddamn Wendy. RES- LOLRES CON- How is it possible to have less CON than goddamn Oujay? Supports- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA EVEN HER SUPPORTS ARE BAD. In conclusion: though Wendy is goddamn terrible, at least she has the excuse of being unpromoted. JUNO IS A PROMOTED UNIT WITH LOWER BASE STATS THAN UNPROMOTED UNITS. I mean, shit. At least Wendy has DEF and CON to speak of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 I guess Sophia. I'm not so into this type of this discussion, so I don't know the details, and requirements, but Sophia sounds right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlejack Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Umm guys? Sofiya's bases aren't all THAT bad in comparison to other mage's bases and because she is such a low level Juno on the other hand has terrible bases for her level, even IF we're assuming she is a 10/9 promote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 (edited) Umm guys? Sofiya's bases aren't all THAT bad in comparison to other mage's bases and because she is such a low level Juno on the other hand has terrible bases for her level, even IF we're assuming she is a 10/9 promote. Lilina: lvl..............hp............................mag..........skl............spd............lck.............def............res 1 ...............16................................. 5........ 5 ..............4.............. 4............... 2 ...............7 Sophia: lvl...............hp..............................mag........skl............spd............lck............def............res 1 ................15............................... 6............ 2............ 4.............. 3 ..............1............... 8 Lugh: lvl................hp..........................mag............skl..............spd.........lck............def.............res 1 ................16............................ 4.............. 5 .................6........... 5.............. 3............... 5 Right....Sophia has possibly the worst durability EVAR. I do recognize that Juno is terrible, and that Sophia isn't that bad. But really, this type of durability at this point in the game is rediculous Edited February 27, 2010 by Core Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlejack Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Lilina: lvl..............hp............................mag..........skl............spd............lck.............def............res 1 16 5 5 4 4 2 7 Sophia: lvl...............hp..............................mag........skl............spd............lck............def............res 1 15 6 2 4 3 1 8 Lugh: lvl................hp..........................mag............skl..............spd.........lck............def.............res 1 16 4 5 6 5 3 5 Right....Sophia has possibly the worst durability EVAR. For an unpromote yes. For a PREpromote where you expect to see at least THREE of the character's stats to exceed a majority of unpromoted characters... well lols. Seriously. Juno might have the worst base stats for a prepromote of ALL TIME. Sofiya can at least fall back on the fact that she is a level 1 magic user in a game where most magic users aren't very good. Well, except Clarine but she is a healer before promotion so she doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 For an unpromote yes. For a PREpromote where you expect to see at least THREE of the character's stats to exceed a majority of unpromoted characters... well lols. Seriously. Juno might have the worst base stats for a prepromote of ALL TIME. Sofiya can at least fall back on the fact that she is a level 1 magic user in a game where most magic users aren't very good. Well, except Clarine but she is a healer before promotion so she doesn't count. Lugh is pretty good too. Good hit when others don't really have it? Yes please. He is quite durable(in terms of a mage) and is good all around once he gets going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlejack Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Lugh is OKAY. He's fine for the first few chapters but once the game gets into, say, Dread Isle stages, you might want to bench him. Shin has the best 2-range in the game... sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krad Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Wendy. Bad bases and D lances just before an axefest. But nothing beats the awesomeness of the Shooters in FE3 Book 2. 18 HP, 0 STR, SKL, SPD, DEF, RES and MOV. Best enemy ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 (edited) Awww. Why only GBA characters? If it weren't for that condition, either Lara or Shanam from FE5 would so totally win this. Or even better, Bantu. But from GBA characters... Well, I think I'm gonna go with Sophia. Getting OHKO'd by almost any enemy that exists with little to no hope of ever escaping this state is pretty sad, even if she does have 1-2 range to avoid counters on player phase. Also, having so low hit rates with your base weapon that the 2-RN-system actually works against you is nothing to be proud of either. Edited February 27, 2010 by Raymond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Wendy and Yuno overall. Lilina's base speed. Coupled with her growth on that, it's the reason she's not the strongest GBA class cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Wendy and Yuno overall. Lilina's base speed. Coupled with her growth on that, it's the reason she's not the strongest GBA class cannon. Sophia has the same base speed, but loses 2 AS from everything. Her growth is a little bit better... but this is about base stats, not averages. Amelia gives Sophia a run for her money, though: Amelia w/Javelin 16HP 10ATK 77HIT 0AS 2DEF 3RES 6AVO Sophia w/Flux 15HP 11ATK 77HIT 2AS 1DEF 8RES 7AVO I'm willing to give the nod to Sophia here, since she targets RES and can switch to Nosferatu for more ATK. I guess Amelia could switch to a Slim Lance for more AS and HIT, but her damage would be so bad and she'd actually take counter-attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 It's kinda sad that Sophiya versus a recruit is even debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Overall, Amelia is probably better than Sophia. Once you overcome Amelia's rocky start and promote her to Cavalier, she's okay, but Sophia is never really good. And of course, Amelia has the option of Tower training, which simply doesn't exist for Sophia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inui Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 It's Zealot's wife. How can you be married to the great Zea1337 and suck that much? :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsofMassConstruction Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Chad has pretty cool growths, but they are utterly ruined by his fantastic bases of 16 HP, 3 str, 3 skl, 10 spd, 4 lck, 2 def, and 0 res. The speed is okay, but everything else is a pile of suck. I'd also throw Cecilia and Klein into the really bad base stats category, though they aren't that bad for their joining time, just for their level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 How the hell has Karla not been considered for being bad with terrible bases? She definitely wins for FE7, even considering Eliwood and Renault (Eli's bases suck, his growths are nice though). Karla - Level 5 Swordmaster - A Swords HP: 29 - Base level Pent has 33 and he's a freaking SAGE! Str: 14 - Really? The early units start with around 8 Str and she's promoted... Skl: 21 - LolSkl in FE7. Spd: 18 - Average. Except that she's a Swordmaster and is supposed to have it through the roof! Luck: 16 - LolLuck in general. Def: 11 - Pathetic. Res: 12 - Actually her only decent stat. Con: 7 - Well, it's better than Guy's even though he ties her base Spd at 11/0... Move: 6 I mean, fuck! If that's not horrible, I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stahl Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Juno, Wendy, and Sophia all have fail bases. They don't even end up decent, lulz. Of course Wolt and Fugly Dorothy are good competition. Still, I guess the HUEG amount of craptastic base lvl units in FE6 is balanced out by Percival and his manly bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Divine Swordmaster Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Lyndis has kinda fail bases 16 HP and 2 Def, never good if your not a mage, and Rebeeca bases just about fail everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Zealot sucks, you can do it without him when you have JeiganMARCUS to rely on. Amd Amelia easily beats Wendy's stats as a Knight, especially with her HUGE Spd advantage, Wendy's only winning on Def. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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