chococoke Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Well, I'm going to tackle chapter 16 now. Chococoke, your team is pretty good, I bet your Sain will be a god. Well, I sure hope he does well. A lot of the people I drafted are people I've used before (save Erk, who I took in the 2nd round for whatever reason, and Wil.) I'm probably not going to win, it took me forever to 8 turn chapter 11 and that was WITH Matthew, though he didn't do much other than chip the broken wall. We'll see how Chapter 12 goes I suppose. Have 5 usable units there, so that should help me out immensely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Everyone seems to hate C16. I personally agree, and it was living hell. I managed, somehow. Gonna try C17 again soon. Fuck you northern thief It's not fun having only 3 people that can do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) wowowowowChapter 16(12 turns+4 penalty=16) hahaha I finally did it. It was rediculous, but I did it. I rescued Lyn with Sain so that's my 4 turn penalty. Basically once I got Lyn to safety via Sain and Marcus, I had them camp in the mountains. Hector and Eliwood took on enemies there, meanwhile Marcus soloed the entire middle part of the map. I got out of the mountains and onto the boss before the cavalier reinforcements got to me. I got the red gem but not the heavy spear. Name Level HP ST SK SP LK DF RS Hector 10.50 25 14 9 10 4 11 3 C Eliwood Eliwood 8.93 23 6 9 8 9 7 2 C Hector Marcus 5.32 33 16 16 14 10 10 9 Serra 3.81 18 3 5 9 6 4 7 Florina 3.46 18 6 8 9 8 4 5 Lyn 4.88 18 5 10 11 5 2 0 Edited July 15, 2010 by Core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) I.HATE.PEGASUS KNIGHTS 12 everyone is drunk on vulneraries This one was annoying. It took me a while to figure out what to do with the northern units, since I had to keep Serra alive to recruit Erk, etc. Anyway, I placed Hector on a mountain with his trusty hand axe, whilst Oswin blocked his flank. Marcus runs as fast as he can up north, killing as many things as possible along the way. The new southern force (basically, Rebecca and Bartre, along with 3 unarmed units, one of them being Vulnerary caravan Eliwood) are left to deal with a whopping 2 bandits and 1 archer, whom they barely kill. Bartre and Rebecca BOTH miss against 1 bandit (both had hit chances around 70%). Fucking retarded. Marcus kills the boss. He also runs down and kills the final bandit because Bartre misses AGAIN at 77% displayed. Ugh. 9 turns, 17 total. Name Level HP ST SK SP LK DF RS Hector 4.66 25 14 9 10 4 11 3 Matthew 3.44 19 4 5 12 2 3 1 Marcus 1.50 base stats Rebecca 1.36 base stats Bartre 3.21 30 10 6 3 4 4 0 EDIT: at some point I'll figure out how this damn chart thing works. Edited July 16, 2010 by Chococoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) Chapter 17 done in 13 turns. Unfortunately, Hector missed the OHKO on the thief, and I missed out on 5000G the Knight's Crest. Not that I have anyone who can promote with it anyway. Basic strat: Move forward, kill enemies, Marcus pushes far ahead, Priscilla recruits Raven, Raven recruits Lucius, Marcus critkills boss with Silver Lance, Hector seizes. All the stupid Caelin soldiers died. Matthew pilfered an Unlock staff (wow) and a Hero's Crest (Heck yeah!) Name Level HP ST SK SP LK DE RE WLvl Hector 14.37 32 15 7 10 8 17 3 Axe A Marcus 6.88 35 17 17 11 8 11 10 Sword A, Lance S, Axe B Guy 11.23 29 12 17 19 6 8 3 Sword A Raven 5.66 29 10 13 15 2 6 2 Sword C Lucius 3.00 18 7 6 10 2 1 6 Light D Added weapon level tracking to stats. Total turns: 93 (probably) Edited July 16, 2010 by Mist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) Big Question: Can you get Canas without going to 17x? edit: apparently that's a no. I guess I need to redo 17 again to keep one of the green soldiers alive. Edited July 16, 2010 by Core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Big Question: Can you get Canas without going to 17x? edit: apparently that's a no. I guess I need to redo 17 again to keep one of the green soldiers alive. You could always just not get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 You could always just not get him uhh nty. Well this sucks. I have no clue how I'm going to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 uhh nty. Well this sucks. I have no clue how I'm going to do this. Have a cavalier follow Marcus and rescue one loldier as they walk by? Use Raven to rescue one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Have a cavalier follow Marcus and rescue one loldier as they walk by? Use Raven to rescue one? Keep in mind the only characters I have are Hector, Eliwood, Lyn, Marcus, Florina, Serra and Mathew(no combat) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janissary Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) Your Eliwood sucks ass anyway. Maybe rescue drop him up to a loldier and then have him pick one up? Edit: Oh yeah, and Lyn stopped dying so I managed to beat Chapter 16 in 11 turns with an additional 4 turn penalty for having Florina rescuedrop Hector/Oswin over the mountains so they could kill stuff sooner. I missed both villages. I don't care. I have 58 turns total so far. I'm also seriously considering giving Marcus my Dragonshield. It depends what kind of hell Chapter 17 gives me since I need the Knight Crest. Name Level HP ST SK SP LK DE RE Hector 10.13 28 13 8 7 7 12 0 Lowen 8.99 28 11 8 10 6 12 1 Oswin 14.07 33 16 11 5 3 14 5 Marcus 4.79 34 16 17 12 9 10 9 Edited July 16, 2010 by Janissary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) Chapter 17(13 turns)(87 total) It was a lot easier once I didn't deploy Mathew and completely ignored the first chests, that way I could get Florina up to rescue a loldier. Now I have to do 17x Name Level HP ST SK SP LK DF RS Hector 12.01 27 15 9 12 4 13 4 C Eliwood Eliwood 9.54 24 7 10 9 9 7 2 C Hector Marcus 6.67 34 17 16 14 11 11 9 Serra 4.69 19 4 6 10 7 4 8 Florina 3.46 18 6 8 9 8 4 5 C Lyn Lyn 6.29 20 5 12 12 6 2 0 C Florina Fun Fact: Lyn has a better offense than Eliwood. Chapter 17x(6 turns)(93 total) "gogogo" describes this chapter perfectly. not gonna update my tables.I got a little bit of experience out of this chapter, I also got a lancereaver, Canas' secret book, and I bought a mend for Serra. Edited July 16, 2010 by Core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janissary Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Fun Fact: Your Eliwood is a piece of shit. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Core, enjoy C18. Or not, as there are SO MANY MERCS IT'S NOT FUNNY. And Shamans, but who cares about them? C18 is a right hell. There is no way I could break through the amounts of enemies. And I really need new weapons right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janissary Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I am having issues of having 2 uses of a Javelin left. Damn my inability to be able to get to the shop in Chapter 16. But Lyn survived? Sadness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Did you account for the one that Florina comes with? That might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) Chapter 18(11 turns)(total 104) This chapter was reaaaally annoying, considering most of my team is getting 2-3HKO'd, and nobody but Lyn doubles much of anything. Basically I went full defense until I made a hole, then I expanded from there. I had Marcus on one stairway and Hector with Eliwood support on the other stairway. I managed to get the elysian whip from the peg knight, which I'm happy about, I also got some new weapons. I got a lot of experience for my team too since Marcus didn't solo as much as he normally does. Canas also was fairly important since he was my only ranged attacker. Name Level HP ST SK SP LK DF RS Hector 13.46 28 15 9 12 4 13 4 C Eliwood Eliwood 12.19 27 9 11 10 9 8 2 C Hector Marcus 7.71 34 18 17 14 12 11 9 Serra 7.04 21 6 6 11 9 4 9 Florina 5.84 20 7 8 11 9 4 5 C Lyn Lyn 9.56 22 7 14 12 8 4 1 C Florina Canas 11.25 23 12 10 10 7 6 10 Edited July 16, 2010 by Core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janissary Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Did you account for the one that Florina comes with? That might help. Sadly, I was focred to use it last chapter. My enemy phases will suck this Chapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 At least you guys have managed to start. I beat HNM. Not giving me an option for HHM. Goddammit. Well, EHM is on Chapter 22. Shouldn't be too long *sigh* if I just rush through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 At least you guys have managed to start. I beat HNM. Not giving me an option for HHM. Goddammit. Well, EHM is on Chapter 22. Shouldn't be too long *sigh* if I just rush through. Wait, really? I beat ENM and HNM, but never EHM. I did beat LHM though, so maybe beat that really quickly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) ...Yeah, if I can beat LHM without touching Kent...it'll still affect the durability of people in 16. Dammit. Barring...a Lucius/Wallace solo. Nah, screw it. EHM speedrun. EDIT: I beat LHM on the EHM speedrun, but that's true. In fact, that's probably it. If I can just finish... EDIT 2: Well, it wasn't originally a speedrun, but I have a Sain with 18 Str and 16 Spd so why the hell not? Edited July 16, 2010 by Yossarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janissary Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Chapter 17: 13 turns (71 turns total) This wasn't nearly as hard as I expected I semi-rushed Marcus up to kill the theif as soon as he opened the Knight Crest while Lowen, Oswin, and Hector were busy clearing the leftovers that Marcus had skipped. I managed to push Hector up with Lowen/Marcus rescue train. Growth wise, my Hector is having some serious issues. I expected Oswin to get doubled badly, but Hector is starting to lag. I'll have to watch that carefully. Name Level HP ST SK SP LK DE RE Hector 11.68 29 14 8 7 7 12 1 Lowen 10.27 30 11 9 12 7 13 1 Oswin 14.84 33 16 11 5 3 14 5 Marcus 6.07 34 16 18 12 9 11 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) While my Eliwood is a piece of shit, Hector can actually double lolldiers, knights, and archers, which is nice. Edit: And javalin peg knights. Edited July 16, 2010 by Core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongLei Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Core r u having fun with a lot of the problems I had and Eli is garbage u want to evolve him first because he actually is good after promote (I'm so glad mine was speed blessed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janissary Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) Your actually at 105. You forgot the extra turn for the Survive Chapter (unless you killed Zoldam). I just beat Chapter 18. It was a little ugly at first, but I managed to hold the top area and then advance after the inital wave had done. I think I used like 4 vulneraries. I also bought probably 8 Javelins and 5 handaxes. I'm ready to storm the gate! But first, I have to deal with that Uhai problem. Name Level HP ST SK SP LK DE RE Hector 12.74 30 14 9 7 7 12 1 Lowen 12.06 30 12 9 13 8 13 3 Oswin 16.43 35 17 11 6 3 16 6 Marcus 6.73 34 16 18 12 9 11 10 Oswin finally got a speed growth and can almost promote! I'm excited. EDIT: And my turn total is 83. I'm going to need this cushion because I have to beat Jerme's map :( Edit 2: I just beat Uhai's map in 10 turns (It was epic) and the Dragon Gate in 12 turns, pushing my total up to 105 turns (10.5 turns per chapter). Nothing much interesting happened either Chapter, though I am down to only Matthew, Dorcas, Florina, and the Lords as my reserves. But, I only have to survive 2 more chapters until I get Hawkeye, and finally get another combat unit. Thank God, as Marcus is starting to obsolete himself. I still have a Dragonshield to use on Louise, hopefully. Let's see how this goes. Here's my updated stats: Name Level HP ST SK SP LK DE RE Hector 17.06 35 16 12 10 11 14 1 Lowen 14.81 30 13 10 14 10 13 3 Oswin 18.13 37 17 12 7 4 18 6 Marcus 8.34 37 17 19 12 9 11 10 Hector and Oswin are just rolling in speed growth now. It's about time. Edited July 16, 2010 by Janissary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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