TheReaper Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Im sat here wondering..how did Karel go from Sword Demon to Saint of Swords? I started this to discuss theories on why he went through the change. The thing I've noticed from his supports and what he says in FE6 that it wasnt Karla's death that changed him since when he is recruited he isnt aware that Karla is dead until Fir or Bartre tell him. So..what does everyone think? He is so cute as the Saint of Swords :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Maybe talking to Karla in the last game? especially their A support. maybe the birth of Fir? I have no idea, but I think it's a combination of these two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asassin Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 His A support with Karla or Lucius or perhaps his regret for killing Guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted September 30, 2010 Author Share Posted September 30, 2010 omg that support with Lucius <333. Ezra might be right yeh. As Fir never mentions him being like the "demon" so she probably didnt see that side of him ever. Though from his fe6 supports i kinda thought it showed that karel hasnt spent much time with karla before she died. Also has anyone ever wondered if he is depressed? i get that feel from him but idk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furby Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) I believe it's stated in FE6 that he settled down in Karla and Bartre got together. We can assume he lived either with or near them, considering Fir knows who he is and isn't shocked to see him. Apparently, after Karla's death, he went on a journey and settled down in that Bern village. Or we just happened to meet him there. Also, he's not depressed so much as just mellow. Edited September 30, 2010 by Furby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) here's what else I know, he didn't choose to be called the Sword Saint, I can see where he could be depressive because he says that he is through with the world, and that he's only here for his family, this has been told by his C support with Zeiss [spoiler= Zeiss+Karel C support]"Zeiss: You're the Sword Saint...? Karel: ...They gave me that name against my will. Just call me Karel. Zeiss: Master Karel, I am a Dragon Knight of Bern. Karel: ...... Zeiss: ...You're not going to say anything? My father said you fought against Bern in the past. He saw you in a rain of blood, slicing all those who crossed your path... Karel: ...I am through with this world. Bern, Etruria... They are meaningless words to me now. I am only here for my family. Zeiss: ...I see. If only I could think like that... But I can't...not even after Bern has fallen..." and here is how he went from demon to Saint: [spoiler= Karel+Noah support] C Support Noah: ...I've never heard of this area before. I never knew there was a place like this in Bern. Karel: ...... This is a land that people have long forgotten. The years go by, but time just seems to linger... It is that kind of place. Noah: Did you always live here? Karel: No. Before I settled here, I used to travel around the world, living by the sword. Noah: Then... Have you been to Ilia? Karel: ...Once, in the past. B Support Noah: The Sword Saint... Have you heard of this legendary figure? Karel: ...No. Noah: My mother used to tell me stories about him. When I still very young, a large group of bandits attacked my home village. Karel: ...... Noah: There was a traveler from Sacae in the village inn. Without saying a word, he went out to the village gate... He then cut down all of the bandits, leaving none alive. When he was finished, he left as suddenly as he had come...almost like the wind. Karel: ...... Noah: If he hadn't saved my village, I wouldn't be here today. I'll always be grateful to the Sword Saint... Karel: ...No. That is wrong. Noah: ...What? Wrong...? What do you mean? Karel: ...... A Support Karel: ...... Noah: Master Karel... Karel: I suppose I should tell you the truth. Keeping silent to cover up one's shame would be stepping off the path of the sword. Noah: Shame? You saved my village... Karel: No. I never thought about saving the village. I just wanted to kill. Noah: ...... Karel: I was like a demon back then...possessed by the sword. I was aimlessly wandering around, looking for people to satisfy my lust for blood. As long as I could cut, as long as I could kill, it didn't matter who it was. ...Even if that were an infant in a village I happened to stop by at. Noah: ! Karel: You have no reason to thank me. They call me the Sword Saint... It is but a false name. Noah: ...... But... I can't imagine that what you say is true when I look at you now. You, standing before me now, are the Sword Saint that I had always pictured in my mind. What... What happened...? Karel: ...Some things you will realize only after you have lost something else. However, by the time my foolishness had left me...it was already too late. another thing is Rutger, who Karel seems to relate with in his support conversation [spoiler= Rutger and Karel support] Rutgar: ! Karel: You noticed me at this distance? Impressive. Rutgar: ...Karel, the Sword Saint. Karel: Well, what an honor. You know me? Rutgar: ...Everyone who uses the sword knows your name. Karel: Yes, well, I travelled all around when I was young. Rutgar: ...Why are you here in this army? Karel: My family is here, so I joined as well. I'm hoping that even my rusty skills could be of use. Rutgar: Rusty? Even you joke around sometimes? Karel: No, I'm serious. I probably would lose out to you young ones. Rutgar: ...... *Rutgar leaves* Karel: ...Interesting. B Support Karel: You, plese wait a moment. Rutgar: ...What do you want? Karel: I am looking for someone to spar with. Would you care to? Rutgar: ...No. Karel: Why? Am I not a worthy opponent for you? Rutgar: Your sword isn't used to kill... It doesn't agree with the path I pursue. Karel: Perhaps you think so now, but we both follow the way of the sword... All paths of the sword lead to one place. Rutgar: ...... A Support Karel: ...Do you need something, Rutgar? Rutgar: I want to ask you something. Karel: Yes? Rutgar: I sense no hate in your sword... You just seem to blend with the air around you when you attack. Even the heaviest, strongest blades can't cut through air... Your sword would beat them all. I want to become stronger. If all paths of the sword lead to one place, then would I be able to blend with the air as you do? Karel: ...You're from Sacae, aren't you? Rutgar: ...Right. Karel: I was born in Sacae as well. I grew up under the protection of Father Sky and Mother Earth. They are all that are in my sword. Rutgar: I'm not a pure Sacaean... I wouldn't be able to sense them like you can... Karel: Was that true when you were young? Rutgar: !! Karel: You were able to hear the sky and the earth once. Although, now it seems that your hate is covering your ears. Rutgar: ...Do you think I'll be able to hear them again once this war ends? Karel: Of course you will. The breeze that runs through the plains... It never forgets those that it loves. and while I'm at it I might as well through in Fir's support conversation with him [spoiler= Fir+Rutger support] Fir: Uncle! Karel: Ah, Fir. Fir: Please let me stay with you and learn from your mastery of the sword! Karel: Suit yourself. Fir: Thank you! ...But... It doesn't feel right that you are staying here partnering with me. I'm still a novice, but you're the strongest member of our army! Karel: ...... Fir: They don't know how powerful you are! Once they see the true strength of the Sword Saint, then they'll... Karel: Fir. Fir: Y-Yes? Karel: Your heart is wandering. Fir: I... I respect you so much, so... Karel: It is pointless to marvel over one's power. That is not the kind of strength that I seek. Fir: ...Yes, Uncle. B Support Fir: Uncle... Karel: What is it, Fir? Fir: Please, teach me your way of the sword. Karel: ...... Fir: I want to know how you gained your power. I want to master the sword like you have. Karel: The way of the sword... Fir: Yes! Karel: That isn't something that can be taught, Fir. Fir: What...? Karel: A sword is simply a sword. It is a weapon used to kill people. Fir: That... That's not true! Karel: There's no strength in this piece of metal. I have lived by the sword ever since I was born, but my blade never gained any power. Fir: ...... Karel: True strength is not the power of a weapon. It is something that cannot be seen. We all have it within us. Including you, Fir. Fir: M-Me...? A Support Fir: Please tell me, Uncle! Karel: ...... Fir: What is true strength...? What is the way...? What...what must I do? Karel: ...Fir. You were always looking at your mother's back and following after her. Fir: ...... Karel: And now, you come to me for advice because you have lost sight of your mother. Fir: ...Yes. Karel: But, Fir. You are not your mother, nor are you me. The path which you seek does not lie behind us. It lies in front of you. It is you who must cut open that path for yourself. Fir: In front...of me? Karel: That isn't something that can be taught. It is something which you must discover on your own. Fir: ...Yes. Thank you, Uncle! ... and let's not forget Bartre [spoiler= Karel and Bartre support] C Support Bartre: I... I'm terribly sorry about my wife. If I could take her place, I would do so in an instant... Karel: Well, I can't exactly say my sister was in good health. I'm glad she lived as long as she did. Bartre: I'm sorry... Karel: One thing that I am worried about is Fir. She lost her mother at such a young age... Bartre: Yes... Maybe... Maybe the reason she left home to go train herself was that she wanted to get her mind off of her mother's death. Karel: Training? So Fir was traveling around the continent? Bartre: Yes. She said she wanted to become a great swordmaster like her mother. Karel: I see... B Support Bartre: ...... Karel: Bartre... What's the matter? Bartre: Ah, Karel. ...I was just thinking about my wife. Karel: About my sister? Bartre: Yes. I first met her when I was traveling around the world, training myself. And then... I met her at that arena. Her sword...it was almost invisible. ...I suffered defeat for the first time in my life. Karel: ...I understand. In our family, the sword is everything. We are brought up by the sword, and it is all we know. The sword was so central to our lives...even to the point that it blinded us from our own human nature. Bartre: Each time I lost, I would challenge her to a rematch. And then, the third time we fought, I was able to evade her first strike. I was immediately knocked out by her second strike, though... When I woke up...there she was. It was the first time I saw her smile. After that, we traveled together, training ourselves alongside each other. Although...I never was able to defeat her. Karel: You wouldn't see my sister smile very often... She must have been that fond of you. Bartre: Do you think so...? A Support Bartre: ...After she fell sick, my wife starting telling me about her family for the first time. She talked about her heritage, about you, and...about herself. Karel: I'm sure my sister was happy to be with you when she left this world. Bartre: Around that time was when we first met each other as well... You resembled my wife when we first met. You were inhumanly strong... Dangerous, and forbidding. Karel: ...Yes. That time, I left you two without saying a word. You must have thought what a terrible brother I was. Bartre: No, not at all. While she was dying, my wife told me about her childhood with you... She would tell me over and over again, with a smile on her face. Karel: ...... Yes...I see... Edited September 30, 2010 by Ezra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted September 30, 2010 Author Share Posted September 30, 2010 "...I am through with this world. " Possibly the best FE quote ever. I for some reason cant actually take him seriously when i see that haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 I assume that Karel lost someone else to his rage and realise he had strayed. Why does it have to have something to do with Karla? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I apologize in advance, but can someone explained to me what the HECK is up with Karel/Karla? Karel killed Guy? When/why/how... Wasn't Karel supposed to kill Karla or something, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 well this is what I know, there isn't enough information to know whether or not Karel killed Guy, BUT it is very possible because of their support conversation [spoiler= Karel and Guy's support conversation] C Support Guy: Y-You...! Karel: ...... Guy: Hold on! You’re Karel, aren’t you? You’re the Sword Demon... Karel: ...... Guy: Oh, forgive me! I am Guy, a warrior from Sacae. I would like you to teach me the art of the sword! Karel: ...... Guy: Hm! What’s with you? Why don’t you-- Karel: Be grateful for your inexperience. If you were stronger... I would cut you down where you stand. Guy: I... I don’t-- What’s your problem!? B Support Guy: Master! Wait for me! Master Karel! Karel: ...... Guy: Please, I implore you! Teach me the art of the sword! I want my name to be known far and wide in Sacae! Karel: When my fame first spread in this land, many worthless dogs aspired to swordsmanship. Then they all fell, one by one... Forget it, pup. Leave my sight. Guy: D-Don’t go! You want someone to fight, don’t you? Then make me your opponent! Karel: ...... Guy: I know I’m not good enough to fight you now. So, just train me in the sword. In one year’s time, I swear I will master the art. Enough to match you-- enough to best you! Karel: ...... You seem to mean it, don’t you? Guy: Y-Yes! Karel: Very well. From tonight, we begin your training. You will learn the sword. A Support Guy: Master! Karel: ...... Guy: Master! How goes my training? Karel: ...... Guy: I really think I am getting the hang of it. Maybe I’m, you know, gifted or something? I’m still no match for you, but soon... Karel: Guy. Guy: Hm? Karel: Your training is over. Guy: Huh? Why?! Karel: You are strong enough. If I teach you any more than this... Then I will have to cut you down where you stand. I would cleave you in two before you could take a single breath. Guy: ......! Karel: Even now, I can barely restrain my blade. It longs to bathe in your blood, to test your steel. The thought alone makes my blood roil. Guy: M-Master! Karel: Leave. Never speak to me. Forget your offer to seek me out in a year’s time. Guy: M-Master! Thank you! I owe you so much. But when I said I would challenge you, that was no lie. I will grow stronger. I will beat you. Karel: ...So be it. When next our swords cross, we will see. Let us meet one year from now. Then I will know your skill. Until then. Guy: ...... Yes...Master. Karel and Karla were going to fight, until after their support conversation where Karel decided he would rather not kill his sister [spoiler= Karla and Karel support conversation] Karla: Brother! Karel: Karla... Karla: It really is you! I’ve finally found you. Karel: I have been looking for you as well. Of the six of us, four are gone. You and I are all that remain. Karla: ! No... It can’t be!! Brother...our parents... Karel: Slain by my blade. Karla: Unthinkable... Karel: You are of the same blood; you must understand. Only one can wield the sword. Our clan lived for this sword, as they died by it. Our father knew this and tried to protect the sword. Karla: ...... Karel: You were not worth fighting at the time. But time changes... everything. Beautiful, Karla. Karla: Brother? Karel: Your swordsmanship. It truly is a thing to behold. So much that I can barely resist the urge to strike you down. Karla: You would kill...me, too? Karel: Eventually, yes. It is you or I, Karla. One and only one can carry this sword. Karla: ...... B Support Karla: Brother... Karel: Karla. Perfect... Shall we begin? Karla: ...... Karel: Draw your blade, Karla. Karla: ...... Karel: What? Why do you wait? Karla: Do you remember, Brother? It was so long ago... We were still little... Karel: What are you talking about? Karla: The plains shone scarlet in the twilight... I was crying because I had lost my way. You picked me up and carried me home. Karel: The memory is...lost to me. I cannot recall it. Karla: I remember it so clearly. The warmth of your back. If I could, I would have stayed that way forever. Karel: ...... Karla: Brother... I hated the sword. I never wanted to learn a skill that could only be used to kill. But it was the only way I could get close to you, Brother. Karel: ...... Karla: ...You seem unable to concentrate, Brother. Forgive me. Perhaps we should duel another day. Karel: ...... A Support Karel: Karla.... Are you ready? Karla: Yes. Do as you wish, Brother. When I fall to you, I will leave no regrets. Karel: ...... Karla: We are less than human now. We are no different from our swords themselves. Our hearts are cold, and we count the days we live solely by the flesh we cleave. What meaning can there be in such an existence? Karel: ...... Karla: Cut me down, Brother. I simply wanted to hear your voice before I died. Now I have. I am satisfied. Karel: ...... Karla: ...... Karel: Karla... You haven’t changed. But I have. I must have. When I am with you, I remember the past. Karla: Brother... Karel: Go where you will. I will not fight you. Karla: Brother... Brother, what will you do? Karel: Well... Karla: I won’t stop you... I doubt you can resist the destiny of our blood for long... So I will wait for you. On the scarlet plain. I will wait for my brother to come home... Karel: ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted October 1, 2010 Author Share Posted October 1, 2010 I always thought it was likely Karel did eventually kill Guy which may have resulted in a downward spiral to him ending up reforming and becoming "saint of swords". Karel: ...Some things you will realize only after you have lost something else. However, by the time my foolishness had left me...it was already too late. The above quote states that obviously he lost someone or something which really screwed him up. But he has only just found out Karla has died, whether they had grown apart too much and he hadnt had chance to be a good brother to her properly. Possibly he regrets not spending enough time with her. Since he now states he is only here for his family, and he states to Bartre that he must of thought he was a terrible brother when he was younger. Also Lucius and Karel implies that he is completly worn out from all of the fighting, Lucius: ...You look tired. Karel: ...What? Lucius: Your face seems pallid, drawn, and worn. It looks unhealthy Maybe it all just got too much, the human body eventually gives in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Yeah, it seems to me that Guy would never be able to resist such a challenge. And given that Karel's still around by FE6, well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Awesomest Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Doesn't Guy's ending say that he (Guy) went on to become known as the Saint of Swords? What's up with that? Karel's FE7 ending also says that Karel won't say why he changed his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Well that could be either a mis translation, much like Bartres ending in which it doesnt take into account FE6 (Bartres ending implies he kills himself after Karla dies), or Guy became known as the saint of swords for a couple of years, but he did eventually duel Karel. Karel then winning took the title saint of swords from Guy. But because he killed Guy for the title, in FE6 this might be why he doesnt like the name saint of swords when people call him it. Chapter 23: Old Man: "Thank you! We have nothing to fear with the Sword Saint on our side." Karel: "I am just an ordinary swordsman. Rumors expand out of proportion with time, so they must not easily be trusted. ... Zeiss and Karel C Zeiss: You're the Sword Saint...? Karel: ...They gave me that name against my will. Just call me Karel Noah and Karel A Karel: You have no reason to thank me. They call me the Sword Saint... It is but a false name. Noah: ...... But... I can't imagine that what you say is true when I look at you now. You, standing before me now, are the Sword Saint that I had always pictured in my mind. What... What happened...? Karel: ...Some things you will realize only after you have lost something else. However, by the time my foolishness had left me...it was already too late. I dont think the reference to loosing something is Karla since he has only just found out that she has died from Bartre or Fir in Chapter 23. Whether it being "too late" was eventually the killing became to much and he regretted killing Guy. Since he atleast kind of trains him in FE7. S *shrugs* i need to stop fangirling over karel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Princess Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 (edited) I hated Karel in FE7 I never understood why he was so vicious to the point that he killed his parents. In FE6 he was a lot nicer so I tolerated him a little bit more, I think he calmed down because of Fir (or maybe he liked Guy but killed him anyway for his price). Edited November 1, 2010 by Queen_Elincia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 (edited) Well that could be either a mis translation, much like Bartres ending in which it doesnt take into account FE6 (Bartres ending implies he kills himself after Karla dies), or Guy became known as the saint of swords for a couple of years, but he did eventually duel Karel. Karel then winning took the title saint of swords from Guy. But because he killed Guy for the title, in FE6 this might be why he doesnt like the name saint of swords when people call him it. I keep forgetting if that was a mistranslation or not. I think it was, but I should check before I say anything. Bartre's ending is indeed a mistranslation though, the "joining Karla" part actually refers to Karla herself dying. So the proper ending goes something like: Later, Karla died of illness, but not before asking Bartre to take their daughter to her brother that she would soon be separating with. Edited November 2, 2010 by VincentASM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 I see, well maybe Guys ending is also a mistranslation. Or people compared him to the saint of swords. ie. karel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 well this is what I know, there isn't enough information to know whether or not Karel killed Guy, BUT it is very possible because of their support conversation [spoiler= Karel and Guy's support conversation] C Support Guy: Y-You...! Karel: ...... Guy: Hold on! You’re Karel, aren’t you? You’re the Sword Demon... Karel: ...... Guy: Oh, forgive me! I am Guy, a warrior from Sacae. I would like you to teach me the art of the sword! Karel: ...... Guy: Hm! What’s with you? Why don’t you-- Karel: Be grateful for your inexperience. If you were stronger... I would cut you down where you stand. Guy: I... I don’t-- What’s your problem!? B Support Guy: Master! Wait for me! Master Karel! Karel: ...... Guy: Please, I implore you! Teach me the art of the sword! I want my name to be known far and wide in Sacae! Karel: When my fame first spread in this land, many worthless dogs aspired to swordsmanship. Then they all fell, one by one... Forget it, pup. Leave my sight. Guy: D-Don’t go! You want someone to fight, don’t you? Then make me your opponent! Karel: ...... Guy: I know I’m not good enough to fight you now. So, just train me in the sword. In one year’s time, I swear I will master the art. Enough to match you-- enough to best you! Karel: ...... You seem to mean it, don’t you? Guy: Y-Yes! Karel: Very well. From tonight, we begin your training. You will learn the sword. A Support Guy: Master! Karel: ...... Guy: Master! How goes my training? Karel: ...... Guy: I really think I am getting the hang of it. Maybe I’m, you know, gifted or something? I’m still no match for you, but soon... Karel: Guy. Guy: Hm? Karel: Your training is over. Guy: Huh? Why?! Karel: You are strong enough. If I teach you any more than this... Then I will have to cut you down where you stand. I would cleave you in two before you could take a single breath. Guy: ......! Karel: Even now, I can barely restrain my blade. It longs to bathe in your blood, to test your steel. The thought alone makes my blood roil. Guy: M-Master! Karel: Leave. Never speak to me. Forget your offer to seek me out in a year’s time. Guy: M-Master! Thank you! I owe you so much. But when I said I would challenge you, that was no lie. I will grow stronger. I will beat you. Karel: ...So be it. When next our swords cross, we will see. Let us meet one year from now. Then I will know your skill. Until then. Guy: ...... Yes...Master. Karel and Karla were going to fight, until after their support conversation where Karel decided he would rather not kill his sister [spoiler= Karla and Karel support conversation] Karla: Brother! Karel: Karla... Karla: It really is you! I’ve finally found you. Karel: I have been looking for you as well. Of the six of us, four are gone. You and I are all that remain. Karla: ! No... It can’t be!! Brother...our parents... Karel: Slain by my blade. Karla: Unthinkable... Karel: You are of the same blood; you must understand. Only one can wield the sword. Our clan lived for this sword, as they died by it. Our father knew this and tried to protect the sword. Karla: ...... Karel: You were not worth fighting at the time. But time changes... everything. Beautiful, Karla. Karla: Brother? Karel: Your swordsmanship. It truly is a thing to behold. So much that I can barely resist the urge to strike you down. Karla: You would kill...me, too? Karel: Eventually, yes. It is you or I, Karla. One and only one can carry this sword. Karla: ...... B Support Karla: Brother... Karel: Karla. Perfect... Shall we begin? Karla: ...... Karel: Draw your blade, Karla. Karla: ...... Karel: What? Why do you wait? Karla: Do you remember, Brother? It was so long ago... We were still little... Karel: What are you talking about? Karla: The plains shone scarlet in the twilight... I was crying because I had lost my way. You picked me up and carried me home. Karel: The memory is...lost to me. I cannot recall it. Karla: I remember it so clearly. The warmth of your back. If I could, I would have stayed that way forever. Karel: ...... Karla: Brother... I hated the sword. I never wanted to learn a skill that could only be used to kill. But it was the only way I could get close to you, Brother. Karel: ...... Karla: ...You seem unable to concentrate, Brother. Forgive me. Perhaps we should duel another day. Karel: ...... A Support Karel: Karla.... Are you ready? Karla: Yes. Do as you wish, Brother. When I fall to you, I will leave no regrets. Karel: ...... Karla: We are less than human now. We are no different from our swords themselves. Our hearts are cold, and we count the days we live solely by the flesh we cleave. What meaning can there be in such an existence? Karel: ...... Karla: Cut me down, Brother. I simply wanted to hear your voice before I died. Now I have. I am satisfied. Karel: ...... Karla: ...... Karel: Karla... You haven’t changed. But I have. I must have. When I am with you, I remember the past. Karla: Brother... Karel: Go where you will. I will not fight you. Karla: Brother... Brother, what will you do? Karel: Well... Karla: I won’t stop you... I doubt you can resist the destiny of our blood for long... So I will wait for you. On the scarlet plain. I will wait for my brother to come home... Karel: ...... Gee it's no wonder that Guy doesn't grow much Str and not appearing in FE6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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