Junkhead Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Balcerzak is raping this sh*t. It's ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Bal is awesome in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 It helps that he has alot of earlygame-available characters. Thani having flier utility is also very helpful. Many of my choices are late-arrivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 He ended up taking Zealot and Echidna right before I was going to. I'm not very impressed with my team at all, though, except for Dieck. ...It doesn't help that Ellen and Sue are OHKO'd by the wyverns that have 7 move and fly over all of the terrain in the chapter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 You mean Chapter 7? I am currently strugling in that chapter, as the only character being able to go solo is Alan, but the problem is him and the rest of my group take on different sides. And it doesn't help that Roy and Lott deal a total of ~5 damage in one round, and are 2HKO'd in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Let's just turn this into a complain about draft tournaments thread. I hate Night Before Dawn. Bartre is an asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Yeah. The most demoralizing part is that even Sue's Steel Bow doesn't put them into OHKO range for anyone else, except Marcus's Silver Lance with 2 uses left. I think the Steel Axe comes a little short... The main problem with the chapter is everything going on: not getting killed by wyverns, not getting swarmed by other enemies while trying to avoid wyverns, getting the important villages, and finishing in a good amount of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 You know who's better than FE6!Marcus? FE7Marcus. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Let's just turn this into a complain about draft tournaments thread. Works for me. I'm going to bring Zeiss into C21x and have him brutally murdered. I know it's not his fault that I forgot he was required to access the chapter... Doesn't stop me from blaming him, though. Also, just checked. Those wyverns in C7 have around 34 HP and 13 Def. Sue (base level) with a Steel Bow does 19 damage at about 59 HIT. Not even the Silver Lance can finish one off in one hit; it needs two. It's also the only weapon I have that can combine with just Sue to kill them, since Steel Axes are too heavy and Iron Axes are too weak. Did I mention it only has two uses left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 That sounds stanky. I've never played FE6, but judging from Bal's videos (which I masturbate furiously to) it looks fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Shogi Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 (edited) If you can have a mounted, trade the Silver Lance to Zealot once you recruit him after Marcus attaks the Dragon Rider. It should kill him off provided that it doesn't miss. Or you can bring Dorothy and use her to chip some damage as well. Edited October 22, 2010 by UberLughFTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Oh, shit. I mistook this for the actual thread. Pardon me as I beat a hasty retreat. (Also, don't be demoralized! I believe in you all!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 From the looks of it, you didn't train Lugh. In HM, you especially need to train magic units when the chapters have Dragon Riders. If you can have a mounted, trade the Silver Lance to Zealot once you recruit him after Marcus attaks the Dragon Rider. It should kill him off provided that it doesn't miss. Or you can bring Dorothy and use her to chip some damage as well. The issue is that it's a draft tourney. You can't just muscle your way through everything with whichever characters you please. Or, well, you can, but it'll cost you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 (Also, don't be demoralized! I believe in you all!) Thanks Balcerzak. I WILL PREVAIL!!! The issue is that it's a draft tourney. You can't just muscle your way through everything with whichever characters you please. Or, well, you can, but it'll cost you. Exactly. I didn't draft Lugh or Zealot or Dorothy, unfortunately... I've been relying on Marcus with an Iron Axe, Rutger's Killing Edge criticals, Sue's Steel Bow not missing, and Zealot being able to wear the one closest to him down before he dies as an NPC. My most recent run ended with me being able to kill all 3 of the wyverns, but Rutger, Dieck and Ellen getting killed by the reinforcement cavaliers (I don't think those guys exist in NM...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 They exist, but they may come earlier in hard mode. I definitely remember them, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 They exist, but they may come earlier in hard mode. I definitely remember them, though. Oh. Well, in HM they arrive on turn 10 or 11, I believe. But when I did my first run of the draft in NM, they still hadn't arrived when I killed Devias on turn 12. Unless I killed Devias early, and that's why they didn't show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I think I cleared in 11-12 turns, and I remember them just barely showing up because I had Bors in the arena and I remember thinking "oh, well he can handle it even if I don't finish this". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 The issue is that it's a draft tourney. You can't just muscle your way through everything with whichever characters you please. Or, well, you can, but it'll cost you. You can only deploy characters you drafted and those that are forced. So, really only Zealot can actually help you with a penalty. All the others aren't allowed to be deployed (Trent and Noah aren't particularly useful here). Exactly. I didn't draft Lugh or Zealot or Dorothy, unfortunately... I've been relying on Marcus with an Iron Axe, Rutger's Killing Edge criticals, Sue's Steel Bow not missing, and Zealot being able to wear the one closest to him down before he dies as an NPC. My most recent run ended with me being able to kill all 3 of the wyverns, but Rutger, Dieck and Ellen getting killed by the reinforcement cavaliers (I don't think those guys exist in NM...). Unless you are planning on going to Sacae, how do you plan on getting to 20x? Zealot is required for 20x Ilia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 You can only deploy characters you drafted and those that are forced. So, really only Zealot can actually help you with a penalty. All the others aren't allowed to be deployed (Trent and Noah aren't particularly useful here). The specifics tend to vary wildly from draft to draft on how exactly penalties can be assessed, and what is or isn't acceptable for non-drafted folk. This one allows deployment, and a fair amount of non-combat use. Combat use could then be selected at a penalty. So, assuming he had recruited Lugh (probably not, he's out of the way with a small core team), he probably could have attempted to use him at (heavy relative) turn-count penalty. Unless you are planning on going to Sacae, how do you plan on getting to 20x? Zealot is required for 20x Ilia. Radiant has Sue on his team, so will probably definitely choose Sacae, despite his also having Tate giving him the other option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Radiant has Sue on his team, so will probably definitely choose Sacae, despite his also having Tate giving him the other option. Yeah, even though I've heard Sacae is harder than Ilia (makes sense, looking at enemy AS), I don't think Tate is going to be able to gain more experience than Sue when I have Sue for much longer. Particularly since Tate will probably be used mostly as a ferry, and take an early promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 8[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 You have Clarine. When you get Warp, you can start doing fun things with her too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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