Phoenix Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Oh right, almost forgot. For those interested, there was a minor gallery update ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoD Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I'm back peoplez. This should stop Z from quitting. *Huggles everyone* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rothene Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 *huggles GoD* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoD Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 *Huggles back* *Huggles Zsword much more tightly* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 All I want to know right now is if Gytha was in earshot of this: "Pirate woman wrote my wish for me. I think it was my wish at least. To go home again." Okay that's not all I want to know actually ... We're just about ready to TS, so if anyone else has anything they'd like to do outside of the current conversations before then, now's a good time to do so(especially for any recruitments). I'll probably TS things tomorrow, either in the morning or in the afternoon(or evening if I'm just that behind on things) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsword Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 *ishuggled* oh hai GoD, you knwo what would help? posting. =p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I'm all than ready for the TS. Thought I could do it here in Urden, but until I find the answer to a good reason for staying with the group on the long run, so yeah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I was born ready for this TS. Working on reason for joining, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoD Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Is Axel still? KO....... I am so going to bash his head in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Is Axel still? KO....... I am so going to bash his head in. That's already been done. Sort of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Archive Update: -Norn, Loki, and Runa added to the archives. Don't know who they are? Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeadddddd- -Siv, Bryn, and Svan entries updated (only slightly, don't look too hard) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 When the battle starts, the combat teams are locked so for those deathly afraid of IRC, you might want to take a look at this. AmonSynthia Gytha --- Veronika John --- Chelsea Shadrak Domovoi --- Ranyin Bert Valter --- Gabbie Nadya --- Robin --- Saken --- Aneda --- Zel I keep a list of the current teams that gets updated between battles and during(hp values removed for easier focus). This is the current one. I don't know if any mistakes are on it, but it's currently official, so keep that in mind. If you want changes made, now is a VERY good time to say so. Like I said, once the battle starts, it's locked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsword Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 (edited) Hey Phee, IRC is broken again. Mibbit keeps refusing my account. In other news: Zel and Ranyin SHOULD be in the same party now, though I'd need Roth to confirm this. and uh, I'd like to reconsider Shadrak's party members as neither of them have posted for several... weeks, I think. Edited September 11, 2011 by Zsword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Possibly have a team-reform after this fight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Hey Z, wanna have Robin and Shadrak on the same team after this fight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 (edited) Amon 12/12Gytha 18/18 --- Veronika 12/12 John 21/21 --- Shadrak 15/15 Domovoi 15/15 Aneda 15/15 --- Ranyin 12/12 Bert 15/15 Zel 18/18 --- Gabbie 15/15 Nadya 15/15 --- Robin 12/12 --- Chelase 12/12 --- Saken 12/12 INACTIVE UNITS LIST ------------------------------------------------------ Synthia 12/12 Valter 12/12 Nanahm 18/18 If there are no corrections in order, then combat teams are now locked. Edited September 11, 2011 by Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsword Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 So, I have determined that the Bonus objective for this fight is imposable, and it was imposable from the start. Every unit takes at least 4 character actions to kill, at the quickest, with the boss taking about... another 3 or 4. The part has at most, 10 actions per turn, usually less. If you take the fifteen enemies, and multiply it by the number of actions it takes to eliminate them... you get 60 on the dot. Add in an additional 3 for the boss, and about another 12 or so for bad luck, having to defend Siv, and other pointless fodder, you get a total of 75 Actions required to defeat every enemy in the fight. Now, the party has 10-11 actions per turn. Multiply this by the 6 turns we have, and you get 60-66 actions. 75>66, meaning that the bonus objective is indeed imposable, and that the fight was to hard for the party, and the difficulty of the RP needs to be toned down to actually match the ability of the party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 It doesn't take 4 actions to kill each enemy (note how Troub B was killed in one action for instance?) Bonus objectives aren't necessarily supposed to be easy to get. That's why they're bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) I'd like to point out that Amon can take Callisto all by himself now that he has her stim. So she's potentially out of the picture. Second, calling it impossible from the start doesn't sound like you were actually running any numbers there I'm not saying it was likely, but not impossible. EDIT: @ Toning down The bonus objectives are NEVER going to be easy. If the rp's difficulty ever came down, the bonus objective difficulties certainly wouldn't, otherwise there wouldn't be a point to making them in the first place. Edited September 12, 2011 by Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsword Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) BOnuses should atleast be posible. Enemies on average take 4 actions, 1 attack, a defence, a heal, and then a finishing attack. Pegasi actually add more to this, by taking another 3, in the form of another defender, healer, and attacker. (If no defender is used, then you would use an additional healer, or perhaps a rez, making it a mute point to try to exclude it) So, even what few turns we end up saving with super lucky crits, end up getting burned by bad enemy composition. (Or I should say, good enemy comp, which is bad for us) Also: Between the turn it took to steal it, the turn it took take it, the defence that Gytha used on it, the 2 turns and 2 defences it'll actually take to kill her.... it still takes about 7 turns to kill the boss like I predicted. Edited September 12, 2011 by Zsword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) Like I said, Bonus objectives will never be easy. They're never impossible either. Yes, this is one of the harder ones because it's relying entirely on flawless execution, but even now it's not completely impossible and it technically won't be impossible until we have more enemies left to kill than possible character actions. We aren't there yet. @ Killing Callisto *points to previous statement* Edited September 12, 2011 by Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsword Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Phee. You're now using speculation, I'm using hard numbers. Please provide actual proof that the bonus objective was infact possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Phee. You're now using speculation, I'm using hard numbers. Please provide actual proof that the bonus objective was infact possible. Hard number? On a system that uses RANDOM numbers? Hey, Phoenix, could you please get in IRC? Z is at it again... >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Phee. You're now using speculation, I'm using hard numbers. Please provide actual proof that the bonus objective was infact possible. We have a total of 42 battleposts to do this battle. Your required count is based on some of the worst possible scenarios. Not a bad idea to factor those in, but you call it impossible based on them which is ridiculous. Like I keep saying, until we have less actions left than enemies, the bonus isn't actually impossible(read that again ... read it as many times as you have to to understand that little technicality). Insanely difficult is another matter and I wish you wouldn't go out of your way to confuse the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsword Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Hard number? On a system that uses RANDOM numbers? Hey, Phoenix, could you please get in IRC? Z is at it again... >_> accoutned for, notice, plus some odd for bad luck. The numbers I generated are indeed assuming we have good luck, it could be much, MUCH higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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