Averages Unleashed

[Xander]

Not only that but Goldie even said that Miracle only has a 60% activation rate at best biorythm.

[Radiant Dragon]

That makes sense. Still, it doesn't explain what happened when she fought Zihark and Edward, or the fact that it activated way too often for the activation to be only 60%.

[dondon151]

Yeah, she also lost to Jill on a non-Miracle'd KO attack.

What exactly is Mist's luk, anyway? Going by simple averages, it should only be around 42 at --/20/20, which may be consistent with luk*2 activation rate. Alternatively, if it really caps at 60%, then the video clips could have been picked out specifically to showcase Miracle. Or, if Miracle activates on the first hit of Astra, it blocks all subsequent hits of Astra (didn't get to see vs. Lucia or Mia, so this probably isn't true).

Also, consider that Florete was changed to attack using mag, which doesn't happen in the game. In reality, Mist's per hit damage output should also be significantly lower in most cases.

Edited May 8, 2011 by dondon151

[Yuglyoshi]

He said her luck was 50, which would mean 100% activation. Maybe the max is 99%, though?

[Radiant Dragon]

What exactly is Mist's luk, anyway? Going by simple averages, it should only be around 42 at --/20/20, which may be consistent with luk*2 activation rate.

It's 50 in the videos.

Edit: Ninja'd.

Edited May 8, 2011 by Radiant Dragon

[Florete]

Goldie didn't use averages. She put the growths and bases through an RNG and used what came out.

[Xander]

He said her luck was 50, which would mean 100% activation. Maybe the max is 99%, though?

Not sure about that. Why doesn't Miracle activate for Ena or Pelleas around half the time, like it should if it's 50%? Not to mention no other skills have a *2 formula, so why would Miracle?

[Icon of Sin]

Not sure about that. Why doesn't Miracle activate for Ena or Pelleas around half the time, like it should if it's 50%? Not to mention no other skills have a *2 formula, so why would Miracle?

Miracle used to have a Luck * 3% activation back in FE5. No other skills had anything similar.

[Revoked]

Miracle is Luk %, and she has 50 Luk. Plus 10% from Biorhythm.

[Xander]

Miracle used to have a Luck * 3% activation back in FE5. No other skills had anything similar.

Okay, but this is FE10...plus that doesn't quite satisfy my other questions

Miracle is Luk %, and she has 50 Luk. Plus 10% from Biorhythm.

Have you watched the averages unleashed video yet? That's what the main site says, but we're trying to figure out why Miracle activated so often for Mist in it.

Edited May 8, 2011 by AMU

[Yuglyoshi]

Maybe the crazy activation rate is a by-product of hacking the game.

[Revoked]

Well, Goldie said that "Mist is no longer lucky.. lucky is Mist!", right?

[Mekkah]

Maybe she just took the most interesting battles with Mist, making it look like Miracle activated a lot more than it should. And yeah, the magic-based Florete makes things look off as well. Mist might not even be able to damage anything without that. She could probably move down.

Such a misleading name, averages unleashed...not sure if I can be assed to do them all the proper way when goldie's stats are more convenient. :p

The laguz might have to move down due to their lack of range, which effectively gets them "doubled" a lot (people taking free shots with Alondite, Wishblade, etc).

[Guest Goldie]

Lolz

Edited January 15, 2012 by Goldie

[Tables]

Such a misleading name, averages unleashed...not sure if I can be assed to do them all the proper way when goldie's stats are more convenient. :p

Suddenly, averages.

I still have the original excel files used to make that, so if something seems wrong I can probably try and work out why.

[Guest Goldie]

Lolz

Edited January 15, 2012 by Goldie

[Tables]

I did? I didn't even check what the rounding was doing, I just used the round() command :P. I'll go fix that...

Edit: Huh? As far as I can tell the rounding is done to the nearest integer, not down.

And while it's certainly more impressive to watch characters duke it out, bear in mind that it doesn't give you a view of the long term average battle between characters.

Edit2: What should be the first attack decider in battles where the characters have equal speed? In almost all cases, one character has higher movement than the others, but there's a delightful 4-way draw between (IIRC) Haar, Kieran, Geoffrey and Muarim.

Edited May 8, 2011 by I Eat Tables

[Guest Goldie]

Lolz

Edited January 15, 2012 by Goldie

[dondon151]

Or Ena? Ena is easily the unit you need to take out on the first round or it's over for you lolz

I don't quite follow. She has Renewal, but that doesn't heal nearly as much HP as Imbue for units like BK or Fiona. She has Miracle, but only around 25 luk at max level. By most standards, she isn't extremely fast or bulky on the physical side either. Her str is absolutely terrible. So why is Ena a threat at all?

[Radiant Dragon]

Goldie does let Ena use White Breath, though. She's the only Dragon that gets both.

[Mekkah]

Edit2: What should be the first attack decider in battles where the characters have equal speed? In almost all cases, one character has higher movement than the others, but there's a delightful 4-way draw between (IIRC) Haar, Kieran, Geoffrey and Muarim.

Treat it as a coin flip? 50% of the time one attacks first, 50% of the time it's the other.

[Zanarkin]

Goldie does let Ena use White Breath, though. She's the only Dragon that gets both.

She should be the only one. They shuld have mixed the mag and str for her attack calculation.

[Strawman]

So I noticed how in that one video you did that black cat boss. Well you should do one with Veyona(sp?) that druid boss or whatever he is. That's be cool. Awesome videos by the way.