Battlestar Galactica strategy game

[Radiant Dragon]

Hmmm. . .Wen, if you don't mind cooperating with RD, then RD can give the TRE skills to Wen, who can then discard them with his ability.

I was just about to ask if Wen wanted to do this.

[Guest Wen Yang]

Do that RD.

That'll give me 3 TRE cards to get rid of.

[Haze]

Or 3 TRE cards to fuck us over with.

Just throwing that out there.

[eclipse]

I am open to any other suggestions to getting rid of these two goddamn troll cards in my hand.

[Radiant Dragon]

So, who thinks Haze or Wen Yang might be a Cylon?

[Haze]

So, who thinks Haze or Wen Yang might be a Cylon?

Just about everyone.

[Guest Wen Yang]

You do realize that you'd know right away if I did not get rid of those cards come next month, don't you?

Of course, now I should also throw the possibility that you might have been the one that sabotaged us.

[Guest Wen Yang]

and yeah, I will agree that at the moment, any of us four who could have played that TAC card is a suspect for being a cylon.

[Haze]

I am open to any other suggestions to getting rid of these two goddamn troll cards in my hand.

..Is there any real rush to get rid of them? The hand limit is ten. As I said, I myself am not comfortable throwing extra TRE cards to one of the top Cylon suspects(myself being the other.)

The primary annoyance is losing your original hands.

Edited May 16, 2011 by Ceadeus

[Haze]

I'd also like to suggest everyone not taking a character specific action draw cards.

Unless they're a filthy toaster, in which case they should idle.

Wen probably shouldn't use his ability unless RD gives him his TRE cards(which he shouldn't IMO), because all he'd do is disgard 2 TRE and draw 2 cards. It's a waste of a skill, just draw instead.

[Guest Wen Yang]

Also a good question has been asked and I'll clarify: Whenever you see me say {Skill} Rating-X, what it means is that a skill with strength based on X will be generated. So for example, a Tactics Rating-3 could give you a TAC-1 or a TAC-4 depending on your luck, but would average at a strength of 2.25 (so TAC-1's you would expect to be rare, TAC-2's slightly more common, TAC-3's more common still, and TAC-4's probably a little less common than TAC-2's, and TAC-5's may or may not be possible from it (it's a secret!).

I will however tell you that Skills are no weaker than 1 and no stronger than 6. I'll also reveal that strength 2 and 3 cards can be generated from any skill rating (with varying chances)

I just noticed something that further complicates matters.

This means the following:

ANYONE with LEA-3 could have played those LEA-4 cards.

ANYONE with TAC-4 could have played that TAC-5 card.

People with TAC-3 rating MIGHT be able to play that TAC-5 card as well.

Which further means that, Any of the 8 that played their cards could have played those LEA-4 cards, with the ones having best chances of doing so being Haze, followed by myself and RD.

The bigger problem is that since assuming from the example of a 3-rating potentially getting a 4, then a 4-rating can potentially get a 5... that means that the following people all have a chance to get a TAC-5 card and play it at the previous crisis:

- myself (TAC-6)

- Haze (TAC-6)

- Rein (TAC-5 OR PIL-4)

- BK-201 (TAC-4)

- Eclipse (TAC-4)

JB and WoMC are free for suspicion for the time being, since they passed (indeed, had they played a card, that would mean that they are a cylon for certain).

We can also rule out Kevin, Excellen, and RD since none of them has TAC skills to play.

Which leaves us with five suspects.

Something interesting to note, although this could be a casual mistake that anyone could make:

Neither BK-201 nor Eclipse included themselves in the suspect list they each wrote.

We get three suspects from this: Caedeus, Wen Yang, and Queen as they are the only ones who can have Tac-5 that played a card, unless I'm wrong and you can draw Tac-5 w/ a Tac <4.

1. We know that JB and WoMC didn't play that TAC card.

2. If I'm reading the roles right, Kevin, Excellen, and RD didn't play it.

3. I know I helped with this crisis, even though it wasn't enough.

4. So the moron who went and screwed us up is one of Haze, Wen Yang, BK-201, and Queen.

We might have failed the mission, but one of the four above played that TAC card. Keep those four in mind, Excellen. I'm not entirely comfortable with a 25% shot of hitting scum, but if you think it's worth the risk. . .

Now, of course Haze says he is not the cylon, I say I am not the cylon, and Rein says he is not the cylon.

Which puts us with five potential suspects, any of which could be a cylon.

Suggestion, guys?

[Guest Wen Yang]

I'd also like to suggest everyone not taking a character specific action draw cards.

Unless they're a filthy toaster, in which case they should idle.

Wen probably shouldn't use his ability unless RD gives him his TRE cards(which he shouldn't IMO), because all he'd do is disgard 2 TRE and draw 2 cards. It's a waste of a skill, just draw instead.

Haze: I think I have unlimited actions, and if I draw cards, I only get two anyway. Why not get rid of the TRE while I'm at it?

[Haze]

Which leaves us with five suspects.

Something interesting to note, although this could be a casual mistake that anyone could make:

Neither BK-201 nor Eclipse included themselves in the suspect list they each wrote.

This is quite a good catch. Well done.

[WeaponsofMassConstruction]

Hooray for analysis.

[Guest Wen Yang]

WoMC, if your skill is infinite-use, may I suggest you use it now? that would give you a better hand for the next crisis, I'd think.

either way you'd get two cards, but this way you can pick the second one to match the next crisis.

[Guest Wen Yang]

Also, I'm putting this here for ease of reference. Since I believe that Tables' post that I quoted earlier confirms that we can definitely get up to +1/-2 from our skill ratings, with strength 2 and 3 cards available from any skill rating, I reclassified everyone's skill ratings to account for what cards they can potentially get:

Ceadeus - Cain - TAC 2-6, LEA 2-6

Kevin - Roslin - POL 2-6, LEA 1-4

Excellen - Baltar - POL 2-5, LEA 1-4

Wen - Anders - TAC 2-6, LEA 2-5

JB - Gaeta - TAC 2-6, POL 2-5

BK-201 - Zarek - POL 2-6, TAC 2-5, LEA 1-4

Queen - Kat - TAC 2-6, PIL 2-5

Eclipse - Cally - TAC 2-5, POL 1-4, LEA 1-4

WoMC - Leoben - TAC 2-5, POL 1-4

RD - Ellen - POL 2-6, LEA 2-5

[BK-201]

I just noticed something that further complicates matters.

This means the following:

ANYONE with LEA-3 could have played those LEA-4 cards.

ANYONE with TAC-4 could have played that TAC-5 card.

People with TAC-3 rating MIGHT be able to play that TAC-5 card as well.

Which further means that, Any of the 8 that played their cards could have played those LEA-4 cards, with the ones having best chances of doing so being Haze, followed by myself and RD.

The bigger problem is that since assuming from the example of a 3-rating potentially getting a 4, then a 4-rating can potentially get a 5... that means that the following people all have a chance to get a TAC-5 card and play it at the previous crisis:

- myself (TAC-6)

- Haze (TAC-6)

- Rein (TAC-5 OR PIL-4)

- BK-201 (TAC-4)

- Eclipse (TAC-4)

JB and WoMC are free for suspicion for the time being, since they passed (indeed, had they played a card, that would mean that they are a cylon for certain).

We can also rule out Kevin, Excellen, and RD since none of them has TAC skills to play.

Which leaves us with five suspects.

Something interesting to note, although this could be a casual mistake that anyone could make:

Neither BK-201 nor Eclipse included themselves in the suspect list they each wrote.

Now, of course Haze says he is not the cylon, I say I am not the cylon, and Rein says he is not the cylon.

Which puts us with five potential suspects, any of which could be a cylon.

Suggestion, guys?

You missed this:

unless I'm wrong and you can draw Tac-5 w/ a Tac <4.

[Guest Wen Yang]

If you would check my post more carefully, you might note that no, I did not miss that.

[Excellen Browning]

I will use my cylon detection ability tonight. This automatically means I won't be able to play a card in the next skill check.

[Guest Wen Yang]

Excellen, when do you have your result?

If you have your result right away, then that might be a good idea. Otherwise, maybe you ought to draw some cards first and use your ability tomorrow night. We might need all the help we can get for the next crisis.

[Jaybee]

... Treachery cards only reduce, right?

If so, we're royally fucked because our 5 suspects all have Tre cards.

[Guest Wen Yang]

JB, we're only fucked if the Cylon decides to expose him/herself prematurely, since it'll be clear when they do that.

Also, keep in mind that there are TWO Cylons at the start, the second of which is not necessarily one of the five suspects so far.

On a side note, only four suspects have TRE cards. I'm discarding mine (plus one of RDs if he gives me one) using my ability.

Also, JB, your ability might be crucial. Using it, I think we can brig BOTH cylons at the same phase, which should give us an edge to say the least.

Edited May 16, 2011 by Wen Yang

[Excellen Browning]

I will have my result the following phase, as far as I'm aware

[Guest Wen Yang]

What I'm worried about is that you have a 20% chance to get a cylon, with an ability that is only two-use. I'd personally prefer to save it for next phase in case we can narrow down the possibility of who are the cylons more.

That, and like I said, with all the TRE cards around, we might need all the help we can get for passing the next crisis.

[Zkirsche]

On a side note, only four suspects have TRE cards. I'm discarding mine (plus one of RDs if he gives me one) using my ability.

So you say.