Excellen Browning Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Undrafteds can shove? Really? Can they shove drafted units? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) It was a bit sneaky. What do you mean. Can they shove drafted units? That's exactly what I mean. The Rescue, however, can only be dne between undrafted units. It's not to say draftees can't rescue between themselves. Edited July 24, 2011 by Angru Mainya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Hmmm... Nope I'm still not buying it, I mean sothe is just not going to be doing much he is far too frail to be taking on 2 figthers a Draco and a javelin halberdier. Bane on draco is not the only thing to be rigging as even a 50% hit is going to be hitting Sothe reliably. The figthers do not have horrible hit, lets not forget lvl1 sothe has ~87 percent hit, while enemies have hit range from 135-150. Thats hit rates that range from 48-63%. Its far too dangerous for Sothe to be there alone. No one should be relying on him since he requires extreme luck. I'm with you, Sothe can't do anything reliably this chapter. With Micaiah support he's facing ~50 chance at getting hit, so I can imagine how terrible that would be to try and solo the top with him. Though I guess if someone's desperate they can try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Undrafted units should not be able to shove drafted units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Undrafted units should not be able to shove drafted units. Agreed, just think what it would do on chapters like 3-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I've been trying to get oscar in my past couple drafts, he always seems to go very high in round 2. & I never get him :( Hes amazing. He can promote as early as 3-3 and has great 1-2 range. Definetely good for drafts. 3-4 is kinda a problem though when ur only part 3 unit is oscar x_x. I used that map to use blossom on him :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 Undrafted units should not be able to shove drafted units. But Marciaxrolf already started, so it's little late to change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 But Marciaxrolf already started, so it's little late to change that. Has he used Shoving in a strategy? If not, I would definitely recommend changing that rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I didnt shove anyone except laura in 1-2 with undrafteds. Because shes undrafted too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Hes amazing. He can promote as early as 3-3 and has great 1-2 range. Definetely good for drafts. 3-4 is kinda a problem though when ur only part 3 unit is oscar x_x. I used that map to use blossom on him :) Did you promote him before or during 3-3? just curious. I had the same problem using Titan, a Ranulf penalty is all you have to deal with however. I didnt shove anyone except laura in 1-2 with undrafteds. Because shes undrafted too. I always do this in drafts... it is legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Rules dont say anything about it so it should be legal. And i promoted him at the base of 3-3. Normal mode bexp+favoritism because hes my only unit in early part 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 ok, I'm changing that silly rule. From now on, undrafted units can't shove drafted ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 ok, I'm changing that silly rule. From now on, undrafted units can't shove drafted ones! Undrafted > Undrafted? only should come into effect on 1-2, 2-2 and 3-4 I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Undrafted units can and should be allowed to shove each other, for the same reasons they're allowed to rescue each other. Similarly, they're not allowed to shove drafted units for some of the same reasons they're not allowed to rescue drafted units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Normal mode is so much better for drafts. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Normal mode is so much better for drafts. :) I never want to do HM. I think no battle save in a draft would cause me to go insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) I hate 4-E-5 in HM drafts. EDIT: 2-E as well- Edited July 24, 2011 by Angru Mainya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP 2010 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Stefan&Kurthnaga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Im at 3-10 with just oscar and ike. Those priests are annoying. Calill is breaking her meteor too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Im at 3-10 with just oscar and ike. Those priests are annoying. Calill is breaking her meteor too... I've always hated how the CPU breaks your Meteor. In drafts where i have mages i usually trade it to astrid so that it stays in one piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 Stefan&Kurthnaga Only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Im now on 3-11. Maan its a lot i have to write so ill do it tomorrow. I gotta do it little by little and keep editing each chapter in. If i write too much at once, the phone "times out" and erases everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsofMassConstruction Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 1-P: 5 turns Win a coin flip. 1-1: 6 turns Leonardo outperforms Nolan. Pretty generic so far. 1-2: 5 turns I have a lot of units here. Micaiah blocks and Leo and Edward go up a tier. Sothe appears and enemies disappear. Shoving leads to success. Skip all treasures. 1-3: 7 turns Went left, recruited a sleep staff. Typical stuff with Sothe doing work. 1-4: 5 turns Gave Edward the dracoshield. Sothe feints south while the breakable wall is broken and Laura dares the boss to attack her. The parties (Sothe; other units) switch sides and Sothe moves to pick up Beastfoe and kill the reinforcements while other units use teamwork to overcome the right side. Only open the 3000g chest. 1-5: 6 turns This chapter sucks. At this point, I haven't checked, but stats seem pretty average. However, Edward's probably really underleveled (10.99) and 1-6-1 is a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) 1-8 5+4 tormod 1-9 4 turns Mic 20.00 30* 3 19 15 18 25 6* 20 resolve 1-E 8 turns mic 1 32* 6 20 16 19 25 9* 21 sothe 8.36 39 22 5 25 23 20 15 10 savior zihark 7.01 40* 19 6 26 25 13 13 13 adept paragon cancel Fiona 1.25 31 13 8 13 20 11 14 12 imbue shade Sothe ferries mic. Bk clears the throne room then mic seizes. Fiona and zihark stayed behind. total part 1: 85 not 87 according to calc. 2-p 9 turns Marcia and nea (my free) team up on everything. Marcia gets all kills including boss. marcia 7.01 36 17 7 17 22 14 17 15 2-1 6+8 turns 14/23 brom opens way then neph wrath kills boss. Got heather too. 2-2 7+4 turns 11/34 lucia does her usual stuff armordidnt block way. 2-3 5+4 turns 9/43 marcia bexpd to 7.99. Standard except i rigged a killer crit on the boss with marcia for the kill Marcia 9.17 38 19 8 18 23 15 19 15 2-e 1+4 turms 5/48 standard marcia 9.24 same calill 6.07 base part 2 total 48 total 133 3-P 8 turns ike kills boss skrimir arrives. Adept oscar rocked. ike 12.97 44 24 2 29 24 14 21 7 Oscar 14.28 40 22 7 23 22 20 19 14 adept 3-1 8+4 titania 12/20 standard stuff. Ike 15.23 47 26 2 30 26 14 21 8 oscar 19.00 (bexp forgot to grab stats b4) 43 25 9 24 24 24 22 14 adept 3-2 4 turns 4/24 Lured boss. Oscar kills with adept + ilyana silver lance after ike wind edges. ike 16.14 48 27 2 30 26 14 22 8 oscar 20.00 44 25 9 24 24 24 22 15 adept 3-3 10 turns 10/34 (gatrie free) Got the hammerne blossom and white gem no crown. Oscar promoted b4 chapter with bexp. ike 18.43 49 27 2 30 26 15 24 9 provoke celerity Oscar 2.83 49 28 13 26 26 24 24 19 adept 3-4 10 turns /44 wanted to avoid ranulf penalty and i did. Oscar got blossom. ike 20.00 50 27 2 30 28 17 26 9 same skills oscar 3.18 49 29 13 27 27 25 25 20 blossom 3-5 2 turns /46 bexpd monster in a horse to 3.99. Then gave him adept. Celerity on reyson. Killed boss with adept javelin. ike same Oscar 4.90 no stats :/ thanks to db switch 3-6 9 turns /55 Resolvezihark goes north while mic and sothe take down eastern enemies bk arrives and goes east too. Mic 6.09 35 6 24 18 20 30 10 26 paragon sothe 10.81 39 22 5 26 25 22 15 10 beastfoe zihark 14.87 40* 21 6 30 30 17 14 15 adept cancel resolve fiona 2.95 31 14 8 13 21 12 14 12 imbue shade 3-7 13 turns /68 stayed behind to build ike oscar support. Got a few kills. ike same oscar 5.42 50 31 14 28 28 26 26 20 adept 3-8 6 turns /74 javelin forge adept madness. Ike went east with edges and ettard. Oscar killed the boss part on his own. No stats thanks to crk 3-9 3 turns /77 bexpd marcia to 9.99 and gave her paragon. Calill bexpd to 12 and given adept. Marcia clears way for calill who adept meteors boss (not rigged)then marcia crits with killer lance (not rigged either). marcia 12.05 40 20 9 19 25 18 19 17 paragon calill 12.55 32 9 21 23 22 22 11 18 adept 3-10 6 turns /83 ike goes east with pass and wind edges. Lures the bishops then starts attacking after theyre all dead. Adept javelin forges monster with a horse went north east. ike same pass daunt oscar 9.00 53 33 14 30 32 29 28 21 adept 3-11 7 turns /90 marcia ferry (wo savior) ike while oscar calill tibarn handle enemies. Tibarn kills boss and ike equips slim sword and seizes! ike same oscar 9.38 same marcia 4.99 (bexp to 20/1.99) 46 28 14 26 30 28 26 25 paragon calill 3.99 45 (bexp to 20 crown 1.99 then bexp in 3-e which is where i grabbed stats) 45* 17 28 26 29 30 16 28 paragon robe 3-12 5 turns /95 Promoted zihawk after bexping him to 17 (str x3, lckx3 and def x3). Then roflstomped everyone with killing edges. micaiah 8.03 36 7 26 18 20 32 10 28 paragon sothe 11.07 39 22 6 26 26 23 15 10 zihark 2.08 44 27 10 32 33 20 19 20 resolve fiona 9.00 (more bexp eating in 3-13) 32 16 9 13 24 19 18 15 imbue shade 3-13 3 turns /98 pass on haark. Then brave sword astra ike. Didnt get hit ever wtf. Micaiah purged and physic for exp. micaiah 10.?? 38 8 28 19 21 34 10 30 paragon sothe 11.?? Same zihark 4.?? 45 27 10 32 35 20 19 20 fiona 9.?? Same 3-e 5 turns /103 Pretty straightforward. Ike got rescue. Part 3 total: 103 total: 236? Team distribution: silver: micaiah sothe naesala skrimir calill leanne greil: ike oscar zihark rafiel hawk: marcia fiona reyson Is it alright? Edited July 26, 2011 by PegKnightLover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) 4-p team distributed just as i said. 3 turns bexp'd sothe til he capped speed. Calill gets vantage adept. Bexp skrimir to 30 and sign him. Resolve on micaiah. Easy chapter. Calill murdered everything up north while micaiah skrimir and naesala handle the east. Mostly micaiah though. Stats when i get to 4-3. Sold the rexbolt btw. Edited July 25, 2011 by PegKnightLover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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