Radiant Dragon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I'm playing through 1-5 now, and Jill died for the first time in any of my playthroughs of this game. Why can't she have more Wyvern Rideresque stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Shes a pegknight in disguise in this game obv. Jill ALWAYS dies for me in every playthrough at least once. Shes so suicidal and that hp is too low. Not to mention her res sux at that point and theres a mage that attacks her in turn 1. >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) Shes a pegknight in disguise in this game obv. Jill ALWAYS dies for me in every playthrough at least once. Shes so suicidal and that hp is too low. Not to mention her res sux at that point and theres a mage that attacks her in turn 1. >_> The mage isn't a problem (in Normal Mode), since it dies pretty quickly. She just gets swarmed later on. What sucks is that I lost a +Speed level up on Ilyana... Edited August 5, 2011 by Radiant Kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 I don't tend to have problems with Jill surviving in NM, only HM. Like the time she attacked an enemy - one that she couldn't kill - and it killed her in return. I raged. I thought I had made Volug free in 1-5 for this. Seems I forgot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I thought I had made Volug free in 1-5 for this. Seems I forgot. Yeah, I had to restart once after rereading the exceptions as well. This chapter's becoming kind of annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 @rk- it is when all the enemies hit her that turn lol. I have bad luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 Yeah, I had to restart once after rereading the exceptions as well. This chapter's becoming kind of annoying. I know as well as anyone that it's bad form to change rules after drafting has been done, but if no one is opposed, we can add it now. It's not like it devalues him or any other characters seeing as it's 1-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Princess Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I agree I only have issues in HM Jill tends to die, but its because Zihark doesn't do crap he just stands there like an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) I don't tend to have problems with Jill surviving in NM, only HM. Like the time she attacked an enemy - one that she couldn't kill - and it killed her in return. I raged. The Fire Emblem universe: Where green is the new red (and yellow ain't much better, in RD at least). Edited August 5, 2011 by Metal King Slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I stand by my usual decision of not caring too much whether or not Volug is free here in Normal Mode drafts, and will go with whatever majority decides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Im opposed bcuz only i have volug >8). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Im opposed bcuz only i have volug >8). Think of everyone and not just yourself, at least (unless you're being sarcastic). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Princess Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) I don't mind for 1-5 its not like he could shave any turns ^^', I never use him anyway unless he's in my team Edited August 5, 2011 by Queen_Kittylincia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 Think of everyone and not just yourself, at least (unless you're being sarcastic). But it is a legitimate reason, at least in general. It just doesn't change anything as far as 1-5 goes because it's 6 turns with or without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Im obv being sarcastic. Its only 1 chapter and hes not shaving turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 You guys can decide what you want for this draft, but for future drafts... I would say Volug should be a penalty, it's not an impossible map without him(Maybe HM, no personal experience there) and it takes away from drafting him if he's free for a map. I'm playing through 1-5 now, and Jill died for the first time in any of my playthroughs of this game. Why can't she have more Wyvern Rideresque stats? Really? I have had Jill die so much there ;_; normally in HM like rfof said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 it takes away from drafting him if he's free for a map. Not really, considering he does nothing to speed up it's completion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Not really, considering he does nothing to speed up it's completion. But, think of it this way. If I have nobody to use on 1-5 I may take a volug penalty(I have done this a couple of times in drafts) OR I could pick Volug, already I've saved turns. If there's no penalty, I have less reason to pick Volug, since I can just use him to beat 1-5. That's all of 1-P through 1-5 with only Sothe Miccy, and it's almost to easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 But, think of it this way. If I have nobody to use on 1-5 I may take a volug penalty(I have done this a couple of times in drafts) OR I could pick Volug, already I've saved turns. If there's no penalty, I have less reason to pick Volug, since I can just use him to beat 1-5. That's all of 1-P through 1-5 with only Sothe Miccy, and it's almost to easy. Why would you need more than Sothe and Micaiah to finish 1-5? It's a Survive map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) Why would you need more than Sothe and Micaiah to finish 1-5? It's a Survive map. Jill dying, it's caused me to use a Volug penalty to protect her. EDIT: while I'm no brilliant strategist, and there was probly a way around it, he still makes that map a whole lot easier. Edited August 5, 2011 by Fenrir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring Wraith Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Unfortunately, I don't have any clear data because I am stupid, so I'll have to wait starting this until I either finish HM (on part III...not likely), finish my other draft (on desert. Most likely will finish within a few days), or zip through easy mode (again, a few days and I should be done!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Jill dying, it's caused me to use a Volug penalty to protect her. Then if everyone needs to use Volug to save her, he should be free. If not, it's a Survive map anyway, so it doesn't really matter one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) EDIT: @ RD you can have eddy/Nolan/Aran to help here, my main point is that it just takes away from drafting him. But like i said, pay no attention to my opinion for this draft. Just imagine Tibarn being free for P4, you wouldn't want to pick him. This is obviously not even close to that scale, but I just don't like the idea of free units.(MOAR PAIN FOR THE DRAFTEES) Unfortunately, I don't have any clear data because I am stupid, so I'll have to wait starting this until I either finish HM (on part III...not likely), finish my other draft (on desert. Most likely will finish within a few days), or zip through easy mode (again, a few days and I should be done!) For the love of God, finish the draft! :awesome: :awesome: Don't take this the wrong way, I'm a guy who has done like, 3 RD drafts, finished none. Edited August 5, 2011 by Fenrir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Princess Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Silly Fenrir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 RD you can have eddy/Nolan/Aran to help here, my main point is that it just takes away from drafting him. So what, 3 people wouldn't take a penalty there? On a Survive map, no less... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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