Kriemhild Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 k, I am not one of the next four on the list so... ##Vote: Yes First mission, it doesn't matter who we send. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I thought we were supposed to vote privately :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 We vote in our role PM then it's publicly revealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Wrong, Proto, it DOES matter who we send. Even if it's first mission, the first spy could sabotage, reveal and then direct the rest of the spies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Wrong, Proto, it DOES matter who we send. Even if it's first mission, the first spy could sabotage, reveal and then direct the rest of the spies. But we don't have any information at all! There's absolutely nothing we know that could decide whether player X is a good/bad idea to be sent in this mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 Yes, voting is private. There's nothing to stop you claiming how you intend to vote, however, and you can choose to lie if you deem it beneficial (I've lied as both resistance to try and lure the spies out, and as a spy at various times). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 But we don't have any information at all! There's absolutely nothing we know that could decide whether player X is a good/bad idea to be sent in this mission. Clearly, we should make no attempts to get information and blindly vote yes, even though there is only a ~16% chance best case scenario that all four people chosen for this mission are not spies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Also would it kill you guys to talk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I think we are all waiting for the results, at least i am... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Also would it kill you guys to talk? Yes. I silenced everyone except you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Oh. That sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Okay. Discussion. First, we can clearly see that Spykor has chosen himself for the mission. I don't know how much we can infer from this. Obviously if this was planned to be the successful mission, then that would be a good move, or rather a move that most anybody would make. Resistance leader obviously knows they are resistance and want to gamble on fewer chances for spies, while spy leaders wouldn't mind an easy sabotage. Proto planning to yes vote is likewise unsurprising. Little can really be inferred from things like this. If Spykor had chosen not to send himself, there certainly could have possibly been more grounds for analysis, especially post-vote reveal. Similarly, if Proto had voted "no" it would have expressed his unease about the other members, regardless of the fact that personally he was comfortable with his presence. I guess one thing that just occurred to me that I hadn't counted on is that there may be no "yes" votes aside from perhaps the proposed members. We will just need to wait and see, I guess. Even if I weren't following my policy "no", vote though, I would still feel less than confident with the setup though. I don't think we've heard word one from JB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Proto seems to be voting yes because he doesn't think information on who is putting who into teams is important, which I suppose is reasonable this early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I propose, that to get as much information from failed proposals as possible, that the proposer and the four people following him on the list vote "No" for the first four proposals, while the other six vote their heart. Odds are extremely good that one of the six will also vote "No", and this gives us a large possible pool of votes from the remaining members, to add to our knowledge base. If someone has a better proposal, though, I would certainly be happy to hear it. Revising this, just to make sure. Instead of being first four proposals, it's going to be first three, right? Because the fifth proposal will be forced, which may not be a good idea for us. But the proposer and the four people following him on the list should still vote No, right? Or were there any other modifications to your plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I think that was the only change. But yes, after 3 plans, we drop the policy and strictly consider merit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted August 12, 2011 Author Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) Mission Proposal 1.1 Team: Spykitty, JBCWK, Kiku-Ichimonji, Paperkitty Yes: Kiku-Ichimonji No: Spykitty, JBCWK, zorbees, Balcerzak, Kirsch, Radiant Kitty, Luka Mefeline, SlayerX, Paperkitty, Psych Result: Yes - 1, No - 10 Proposal Fails. JBCWK is the new leader Edited August 12, 2011 by Tableskitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 You mispelled kirsche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Also, I totally called that happening. (that being, everyone voting no. Proto doesn't count.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I was kind of confused about the voting system, now I get it. It's different from last time, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Well, since Bal said I hadn't said anything, I might as well do so now. The thing is, we can't actually find out anything without either having a mission go on or by getting every person to talk. We can't exactly dig very much earlygame either, so ;/ Anyway, might as well get this proposal out. ##Give plans to: JBCWK, Balcerzak, Paperblade, Psych Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 You need 5 people for a mission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Isn't this goddamn mission 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Idk, wasn't Spyke's mission 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 This is still mission 1 slayer. Each mission we can choose up to 5 teams to perform it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Why are JB and Paper going on the same mission twice in a row? That seems a bit odd in my opinion. I'm going to have to lean towards no, even if I trust myself and Bal enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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