Deliriyum Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 What item is he referring to, Snike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Night 1 item? It would be the Sapphire, or 'Iceberg', which was collected from me by the classy one. It was basically worth two items, so Thieves would have loved to hear it. Also, 10 (11?) /5/3 doesn't really make sense, so IDK where that's coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 steal* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Also, 10 (11?) /5/3 doesn't really make sense, so IDK where that's coming from. What do you mean by this? Town/Mafia/thief ratio? Is it too much mafia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 It's 8 anti-town, versus 10 or 11 town. Considering multiple kills are confirmed, yeah, I don't necessarily buy the 5 scum theory. I wish we had another Soothsayer Token. =_= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I dunno Core, conversations can be faked. And a mafia wouldn't admit to already knowing someone else's item so easily. Though I agree that bit of info would lend itself to almost clear Snike, I'm still going to be a little cautious of it. And SNike I dunno if you can count thieves as anti-town. Afterall they weren't killing town and I doubt we needed them dead to win or escaped to have one. But I do agree with you 5 seems a little much. Ive never been in a game with a 5 person mafia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Fact is, thieves have a win-condition that is detrimental to the town. Get out alive with the most items. They have votes, so after the first killing cycle of phases they can just force NL during the day phase and try and steal from each other, while the mafia whittles down the helpless town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 ##Unvote Want to hear from Blitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) 23:51Core_While we were talking, I was also reviewing all my PMs 23:51clipseykittyIs this information I'm supposed to have? 23:52Core_hmm? 23:52clipseykittyWhat's in your PMs. I was never in a position to get information, because half the players were suspicious of me from the outset. 23:52Core_I have a group PM including Psych, Proto, Kay, and I 23:53Core_this is where I pulled a few quotes out of against Proto 23:53clipseykittyOkay. 23:53clipseykittyHowever, I'm not a part of them, so how am I supposed to use this information to draw conclusions? 23:53Core_in this PM, Psych lazily noted that he had no clue that Rein had investigated him 23:53Core_An unlikely statement if they were mafia buds 23:54clipseykittyI'd say Psych's actions clear him more than anything. 23:54Core_And Psych wanted Rein lynched first 23:54Core_etc 23:54clipseykittyI went along with it because Psych requested it. 23:54clipseykittyI wasn't sure why, but I'm glad he was right. 23:54Core_However 23:55Core_Kaoz said he was the one who influenced Psych 23:55Core_to go for Rein 23:55Core_which makes it less likely for him to be bussing 23:55Core_so by that logic, Psych=town 23:55clipseykittyI'm pretty sure Psych isn't mafia. . .but if that was me doing it, would it be suspicious? 23:56Core_Moreso, but not decidedly 23:56clipseykittyThe problem is that I've been under suspicion ever since the mafia started. Nothing short of a Token would clear me, and I have no idea why none was used on me! 23:57Core_Me and Kay first were suspicious because you seemed less active than usual 23:57clipseykittyTherefore, any other actions I do will look suspicious. Including disagreeing with you, despite not having your info. 23:57clipseykittyI was busy planning my own mafia. 23:57Core_I repeat, I am not suspicious of you for disagreeing 23:57Core_This was after your mafia started 23:57Core_but its still something we considered 23:58clipseykittyI think you 23:58clipseykittyer. . . 23:58clipseykittyI think you'll have to use something other than things like activity level and flavors to figure this out. I planned and ran my own mafia in the middle of this one, and SDS doesn't seem very interested in being consistent. 23:58Core_yes 23:59Core_That is what I'm doing 23:59clipseykittySo use whatever info you have in there, bearing in mind that Proto was mafia, and try to come up with something more conclusive. 00:00Core_The most conclusive thing is that you are mafia though. 00:00clipseykittyBased on what little conversation you've had, as well as the fact that you never had to deal with Blitz on a constant basis? 00:00Core_Nobody else has anything incriminating EXCEPT when I roleblocked strawman 00:00Core_Blitz is unknown still 00:00clipseykittyIn other words, you're gonna random just because? 00:01clipseykittyThat's not good town leadership. 00:01clipseykittyIf you're so certain that Strawman is scummy, why aren't you lynching him? 00:01Core_Because you yourself roleblocked him 00:02clipseykittyOkay. I can buy that for now. But the fact is that someone's dead, and you're clearing two other people on what I think is kinda spurious evidence. 00:02Core_I'll concede that Blitz isn't so clear 00:03Core_But, I feel I would've died instead of Kaoz if we was mafia 00:03clipseykittyWe? 00:03Core_contributing to my opinion of him 00:03Core_he* 00:03clipseykittyNo, you wouldn't have. 00:03clipseykittyBlitz may be incomperhensible at times, but guess who told him about the players on this board during BS Mafia? 00:04Core_I subbed inn to BS mafia 00:05clipseykittyI was on the same faction as Blitz then. I told him what I knew about the players in the hopes that he'd stop shooting my faction in the foot. 00:05Core_and prior to that, I had only subbed in during SFMafia 00:05Core_So, I don't think you told him anything about me 00:05clipseykittyI think the board knows what I think of Kaoz. 00:05Core_Did you rate Kaoz highly? 00:05clipseykittyI told him that it's like a less crazy version of me. 00:06Core_Also, you would've rather killed Kaoz, too 00:06clipseykittyNot a chance in hell. 00:06clipseykittyWhy do that, when Snike's alive? 00:06Core_if you are mafia 00:06Core_Snike isn't cleared though 00:06clipseykittyOne of the running jokes is that if I'm on one side, and Snike's on the other, we kill each other. 00:07Core_mhmm 00:07clipseykittyI'd probably kill Snike just because he's more vocal, and thinks very much like me. 00:07Core_...Leaving two cleared players? 00:07Core_I doubt it 00:08clipseykittyBlitz wasn't cleared. 00:08Core_Do you mean, you'd have killed Snike instead of Kaoz? 00:08clipseykittyYep. Some things must be followed. 00:08Core_Or kill Snike much earlier in the game? 00:09clipseykittySnike would've turned up dead instead of Kaoz. 00:09clipseykittyPrecisely because he wasn't clear. 00:09clipseykittySince he wasn't clear, the odds of him having a protective item from you guys would be low. 00:10Core_Yes 00:10clipseykittyAt this point in the game, if I were mafia, I'd be focusing on having my kills succeed, rather than risk having a failed kill. 00:11Core_Which would take away a suspect for me and Kaoz 00:12clipseykittyIf the kill didn't go through, then it means that I'd have to survive another day, and hope that it does go through next time. 00:12clipseykittyThat's not a good position for a mafia to be in. 00:12Core_No, but at this ppoint, you'd have to take some risks 00:13clipseykittyI don't take unnecessary risks. If we're ever mafia, you'll see my play style. 00:13Core_leaving me and Kaoz means that there would be one of us left for Lylo 00:14Core_whereas killing one of us means that on lylo, nobody will be clear 00:14clipseykittyThat's not how I think. 00:14Core_assuming no more items clear anyone 00:14Core_I don't know how you think, though 00:14clipseykittyI'd be going after guaranteed kills. 00:15clipseykittyThe more likely a kill will succeed, the more likely I am to take the shot. 00:15Core_Okay... 00:16clipseykittySo I'd keep my focus away from the leadership, and snipe at the surroundings. 00:16Core_However, you might've known that anything protective would go on me 00:17clipseykittyHow? I can't know that for certain. 00:17Core_since I have access to more information 00:17clipseykittyAnd if I don't know it for certain, then I can't factor it into my equation. 00:17Core_I pulled quotes against Proto 00:17Core_Kaoz didn't 00:17clipseykittyYet Kaoz was the one that got Rein lynched. 00:17Core_Indeed 00:18clipseykittyAnd you didn't vote for it, for some reason. 00:18Core_Kaoz was unbelievably secretive 00:19clipseykittyYou didn't trust him? 00:19Core_I trusted him because I cleared him 00:19clipseykittySo why not go with his suggestion? 00:19clipseykittyIn my case, Psych said please, so I complied. 00:19Core_He didn't suggest it to me 00:19clipseykittyYet his vote was right there. 00:21Core_Because, I didn't know the basis for it 00:21Core_I was pondering lynching Proto 00:21clipseykittyAnd he didn't bother explaining it? That's super-weird. 00:22Core_And I had thought Rein was town, tbh 00:23clipseykittyWell, everything turned out okay, you got a Token, and you were able to get Proto lynched. 00:25Core_I'm still most suspicious of you. 00:25Core_But, I'm waiting to hear from Blitz, as well 00:26clipseykittyMind unvoting me for the time being? Your suspicion is warranted, but the vote isn't. 00:26Core_Well, a lynch is 100% necessary today Lots of details in there. Edit for formatting (and spoiler) Edited September 19, 2011 by Kumquat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoz Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Hahaha looks like it's up to you guys. Don't screw up or I'll kill each of you myself next time I get the chance ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I don't know how I can help, but all info on my items are on Paper's list. If I remember correctly, Proto's lynch list was 1.Snike-2.Life-3.Me-4.Eclipse. His list didn't exceed 4.In Ivalice Mafia, Proto had me saved up for last because he knew I was the perfect Scrape goat(since I won't be able to fend myself well enough and would be easy to lynch and it almost worked too except that someone forgot to shoot Kevin which made us win). Well, also Eclipse would NEVER be an easy lynch to win a game.Since life was mafia, Proto would need to my N0 item Tablet of command to have gained majority or lynch Eclipse or another mafia member(which is not likely). Also another piece of info I got from Proto is that him claiming the Straw gave Paper a coin,no ideas on the why though. Also I am sorry I couldn't help much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Please come on IRC #sforestmafia asap, I have to leave soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 ##vote:Eclipse I have nothing better to do, if Core wants me to stop, I will, be he isn't here now and I forgot to ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 ##Vote: Eclipse You may think I'm being closed minded, but I've looked into every possibility that I could think of, and still think that you are the best lynch for today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 ##Tradition: Clipseykitty If you're not scum, it's Blitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 eclipse has 3 hours to save herself, I'll update if SDS doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven Deadly Sins Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) REDACTED (i need to re-read my own rules) Edited September 19, 2011 by Seven Deadly Sins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) ##Vote Eclipse Sorry clipsey. Edited September 20, 2011 by arachnidsGrip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Can't say I didn't try. Congratulations, mafia, you pulled this one off well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 looks like I was gone when a decision was finally made. Very well, ##Vote: Eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven Deadly Sins Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 Okay, now it's unanimous, I hardly think I need to wait the last hour. As the dust settled, eclipse lay dead in the town square. Yet another ghost seeped from the body, but unfortunately not the last. It looks like there's still work to be done. eclipse has been lynched. She was Possessed. It is now Night 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 If the game isn't over yet, I think Strawman is most likely mafia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I'm likely dieing tonight, so remember. Psych isn't technically clear, but all of his actions would be ridiculous if he were mafia. Blitz was suspicious of Eclipse, and I still find him townish. Strawman getting blocked last night no longer means anything because Eclipse turned up mafia. It now makes sense that the mafia's kill was unaccounted for two nights ago when Strawman was blocked, but still went through on night 6 when Clipsey blocked him. I trust Snike, although the fact that he isn't dead is questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 So yeah, lynch Strawman tomorrow at all costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I just learned of something I do NOT like. . .and if this did what I think it did, I will chew out the appropriate people in endgame. Hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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