BigMeatyClawz Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Well, with both Elite Mode and the Elite M from chapter 6, she maxes out her level in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) Right, forgot about that Elite book. Makes her even more broken than she already was. Edited October 11, 2011 by General_Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Wait feeding Karin the Elite Manual is still a good idea? TELL ME MORE. Anyway, Tina and Marty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMeatyClawz Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Mareeta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Glade, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Pronoun Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 Homeros and Hicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Misha :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMeatyClawz Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Linoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) Wait feeding Karin the Elite Manual is still a good idea? TELL ME MORE. She already gets 2x EXP from Elite Mode; giving her the Elite M after chapter 6 increases her EXP gain to 4x normal. You can probably feasibly promote her before chapter 9 at 20/0, for instance, and 3 turning chapter 9 is trivial with a promoted Karin. If you draft Glade, you can 3 turn chapter 13 with Karin having to face only 1 ballista attack while rescuing Leaf. Not to mention, you can do a bunch of absurd stuff. Karin caps spd and luk very early and has 60 avo against enemies that generally have around 80 hit. If you decide to throw a Life Ring on her, fatigue is only a sporadic problem. You can get away with her performing mostly flier duties because she won't have the problem of stunted EXP gain that most other early joining pegasus knights have in other FE games, since she gains a level per kill up until promotion at at least half of a level per kill after that. Granted, you do miss out on chances to use more beneficial scrolls on her, but I think the short term benefit of having like a 20/1 Karin by chapter 9 far outweighs the cost of her not having maxed str and def. You get the Hezul scroll for free very early, which fixes her HP and str issues, and Neir may be passed up but it augments all of her poor growths by a decent margin. Finally, she's also a unit in Manster, which is a big deal. Her significant shortcomings include subpar performance in indoors maps (although she has a respectable 6 base move when promoted and D rank swords at base is not absolutely terrible) and inability to kill bosses. But say, like, someone drafts both Karin and Dean in a Warp-less draft - you may as well say gg. Edited October 11, 2011 by dondon151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay Dean was available on my draft, too. I should've consulted you earlier. Anyway, I'll take Dalshin and, ah, Selphina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMeatyClawz Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) Lets go with Alva because he has more speed than the other one. Edit: Does anyone else think it would be awesome to have dondon draft for all the slots in a draft? Then we randomly distribute his teams and we see how good/bad you (person playing with the team) really are. Edited October 11, 2011 by oval Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Picking Dean is more of denying him to your opponents than using him yourself, although he certainly has stronger areas than Karin (though likely not so against a 20/5 Karin, save weapon ranks). Anyway, as much as I love FE5, I think drafting it is kind of dumb. Karin is like autowin if you have half a brain (kind of like drafting Marcia in FE9 drafts - notice how similar Marcia and Karin are in the EXP situation). You have to prioritize drafting for Manster at first because some of those maps take a long time. Then you have to prioritize drafting for chapters 1-3 because a couple of characters like Fin and Dagda can reliably shave a turn or 2 off a basic Leaf + Eyvel clear. Amidst that you have to draft a guy that can kill bosses sitting on 10 def thrones without significant problems. Othin, Asvel, and Felgus are prime candidates for that; 3 characters aren't enough to go around for 5 drafters, though. Finally, you basically ignore all of the characters in the game that require a turn investment to recruit. Probably the dumbest thing about FE5 drafts is that you can just treat escape maps like their FE9 equivalents because you can afford to leave behind undrafted units and occasionally some crappy drafted units. And there are also those maps that can just screw you over if you're not adequately prepared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Eyrios, because his name is funky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Pronoun Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 Sluef and Kein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Ralph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMeatyClawz Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 In case it's not obvious, I REALLY don't know what I'm doing. So let's go for Miranda and Ronan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMeatyClawz Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 You have Karin though so you'll be fine. Galzus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 You have Karin though so you have a massive advantage you'll squander entirely with dumb mistakes. Fix't. Of course, that's basically asking for me to accidentally land the best fe5 count ever, but c'est la vie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Why did you pick Dalshin, Integ? He's barely helpful, and he costs you turns to recruit. And that base Spd is disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Why did you pick Dalshin, Integ? He's barely helpful, and he costs you turns to recruit. And that base Spd is disturbing. Because I don't know what I'm doing and you weren't on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Trewd, because I can't have Conomore, Xavier is a bitch, and Shanam is a hoe. And I might take one of the other two. Actually screw him, Delmud. Trewd costs turns. Too late I guess, Trewd it is. Edited October 12, 2011 by General_Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Pronoun Posted October 12, 2011 Author Share Posted October 12, 2011 Amalda and Delmud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Oh, shit. Did the edit or the post happen first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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