eclipse Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) New day, new post. Chapter 20 - 4/71 Eliwood killed a nearby annoyance, then Marcus rescued him and ran for it. This nearly killed Marcus, but he was manly enough to survive. Oswin got leftovers, Legault dealt with the things near Merlinus, and Florina got her own Whip. Name Class Level HP Str Skl Spd Lck Def Res Eliwood Lord 12.24 28 12 9 12 13 7 3 Marcus Paladin 11.40 40 18 18 12 14 11 11 Oswin Knight 14.49 33 16 9 7 4 15 5 Serra Cleric 3.41 18 3 5 9 7 2 6 Florina Peggy 9.14 24 8 12 13 11 4 5 Legault Thief 12.93 Base everything Chapter 21 - 1/72 Marcus critblicked Eubans with a Hand Axe on EP. The end. Name Class Level HP Str Skl Spd Lck Def Res Eliwood Lord 12.24 28 12 9 12 13 7 3 Marcus Paladin 11.93 40 18 18 12 14 11 11 Oswin Knight 14.49 33 16 9 7 4 15 5 Serra Cleric 3.41 18 3 5 9 7 2 6 Florina Peggy 9.14 24 8 12 13 11 4 5 Legault Thief 12.93 Base everything Edited November 29, 2011 by eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) Chapter 18x - 5/53 Turns Marcus killed everything, while Florina carried Eliwood over. Stole the Elysian WHip so I wouldn't have to worry about the village. Chapter 19 - 5/58 Turns Marcus <3 He rushed ahead, while Eliwood just moved his full move every turn. Serra wasn't deployed. Chapter 20 - 2/60 Turns Marcus crit. Oops. UNIT LEVEL HP ST SK SP LC DF RS WEP LEVEL SUPPORT ELIWOOD 09.45 26 09 08 10 09 08 05 A SWORD MARCUS ??/12.07 37 20 22 14 11 11 14 S LANCE A SWORD A AXE OSWIN 15.38 34 16 12 06 05 16 04 A LANCE SERRA 03.48 19 04 05 09 08 03 07 D STAFF FLORINA 08.43 20 08 13 12 11 07 05 C LANCE Chapter 21 - 1/61 Turns Marcus critted Eubans with the short spear. Edited November 29, 2011 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Waitwait. . .I'm getting the RNG-screwed team (sans Eliwood). . .Horace, if my turn counts suck, I'm sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) Waitwait. . .I'm getting the RNG-screwed team (sans Eliwood). . .Horace, if my turn counts suck, I'm sorry! They're perfectly fine. My Marcus is on protein, he's got lots of strength. Chapter 22 - 4/65 Turns Promoted Oswin here at level 15. Oswin moved south and handled everything in range there that he could reach. Florina picked him up on turn 2 and dropped him on turn 4 in the range of a Wyvern Pent couldn't reach. Marcus and Isadora took care of the north and both bosses. Isadora's Silver Sword was very nice here. Pent finished the last wyvern on turn 4 enemy phase for me. Didn't field Serra, Eliwood did nothing. Chapter 23 Lloyd - 3/68 Turns Isadora rescued Marcus on turn 1, and Florina, who was able to reach the fort on the first turn, took him, and dropped him in front of her. Marcus ran up north to deal with Lloyd (with the Swordreaver, he has a silver sword instead of a light brand here). Marcus hit him once, Isadora chucked a javelin, then Marcus finished. Florina recruited Wallace for his silver lance. UNIT LEVEL HP ST SK SP LC DF RS WEP LEVEL SUPPORT ELIWOOD 09.45 26 09 08 10 09 08 05 A SWORD MARCUS ??/14.04 38 20 24 16 11 11 15 S LANCE A SWORD A AXE OSWIN 15/01.60 38 18 14 09 05 18 07 A LANCE E AXE SERRA 03.48 19 04 05 09 08 03 07 D STAFF FLORINA 09.40 21 09 14 12 13 07 06 C LANCE ISADORA ??/03.76 30 13 12 18 11 09 07 A SWORD B LANCE D AXE Chapter 24 - 11/79 Turns Defend chapter >.< Pent ripped shit up, Florina got enough exp to promote for the next chapter. UNIT LEVEL HP ST SK SP LC DF RS WEP LEVEL SUPPORT ELIWOOD 10.33 27 09 09 10 10 08 05 A SWORD MARCUS ??/14.19 38 20 24 16 11 11 15 S LANCE A SWORD A AXE OSWIN 15/02.56 39 18 14 09 05 18 07 A LANCE D AXE SERRA 03.73 19 04 05 09 08 03 07 D STAFF FLORINA 11/01.00 28 13 15 13 13 09 09 B LANCE E SWORD ISADORA ??/04.86 31 13 12 18 11 09 07 A SWORD B LANCE D AXE PENT ??/07.82 33 19 22 18 15 11 17 S ANIMA A STAFF Edited November 29, 2011 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) rigging crits is for chumps. :/ Chapter 12 5/9 Eliwood could 2H banditos with Steel. Marcus south, Ostia bros north Chapter 13 7/16 Eliwood tempts the archer into the forest so Marcus can bypass him. GODDAMN FRIGGIN HANDAXE weaiokhnholijmdcp;qwoasxade. Serra gets a Torch. Chapter 13x 7/23 Training Eliwood. Lucky banditos prefer to attack him rather than the village. Oswin you are the god-king of meatshielding. Chapter 14 8/31 Eliwood can ORKO eastern loldiers. Hooray! Serra rushes towards Erk, Marcus kills everything for a change. The rain was a surprise, but managed to reach the village to recruit Incest Girl while stuff hadn't died on Marcus. Chapter 15 9/40 Prissy carried Eliwood on Turn 1, and gave him to Marcus on turn 2 so he could drop him on the eastern mountain. They fought their way through, while the LL did their thing, and Erk cleaned up banditos and any enemies that went the long way. Serra eventually went to get monies. Will shopped (that's all he's good for) Name Level HP St Sk Sp Lu De Re B W Eliwood 9.03 26 7 10 10 9 8 4 59 28 Marcus 4.70 34 16 16 12 9 11 10 63 52 Serra 2.13 17 2 6 8 6 3 6 3 0 Erk 3.62 19 6 6 8 3 2 5 12 6 Priscilla 3.33 Base 0 0 Just when I think Eliwood's str is good, he doesn't proc it for four levels. Marcus should be banned from FE7 drafts. Erk is getting there. Healers are healers are healers. Edited November 29, 2011 by Baldrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) What am supposed to do, restart if Marcus blicks a boss? He had 16 base crit with the javelin, and he doubled. It's not all that unlikely. He has 21 crit with the short spear as well. Also, I'm pretty sure 13x counts for more than 1 turn. Chapter 25 - 7/84 Turns Florina promoted. She OHKO'd the Wyverns here with Killers, (which was huge on one EP when she was carrying Eliwood, she was doubled) and was 3HKO'd, which was nice. Florina ferried Eliwood ahead due to her better movement, and then Marcus weakened the boss for her to kill. Isadora killed the sage room. Pent put the Purge Bishop to sleep. It was nice that Pent had 3 movement in the snow here. UNIT LEVEL HP ST SK SP LC DF RS WEP LEVEL SUPPORT ELIWOOD 10.77 27 09 09 10 10 08 05 A SWORD MARCUS ??/14.44 38 20 24 16 11 11 15 S LANCE A SWORD A AXE OSWIN 15/02.86 39 18 14 09 05 18 07 A LANCE D AXE SERRA 03.73 19 04 05 09 08 03 07 D STAFF FLORINA 11/02.69 29 14 15 14 13 09 09 B LANCE E SWORD ISADORA ??/06.07 33 13 12 20 11 09 08 A SWORD B LANCE C AXE PENT ??/08.37 33 20 22 18 16 11 18 S ANIMA A STAFF Chapter 26 - 15/99 Turns Got bored and killed Ursula earlier than I should have, but w/e. The thieves got me all the items. Too bad I can't use Rescue or the Boots. Edited November 29, 2011 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 What am supposed to do, restart if Marcus blicks a boss? He had 16 base crit with the javelin, and he doubled. It's not all that unlikely. He has 21 crit with the short spear as well. Everyone is - rightfully - suspicious whenever someone " luckily" crits a certain vital enemy for a lower turncount. Examples: you and eclipse (and in the future a lot of us will probably follow) both critblicking Eubans; everyone critblicking the first brigand with Micaiah in the first chapter; etc etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) In a short chapter like 21, it's not tough to get the crit if you abuse for it anyhow. I could care less if you guys abuse for the crit, it's not like it's a 2% or something. Chapter 26x - 18 or 19/free turns Can't remember the final turncount, i'll check in the final list. I'm sure it was under 20. UNIT LEVEL HP ST SK SP LC DF RS WEP LEVEL SUPPORT ELIWOOD 15.55 31 11 13 11 14 12 08 A SWORD MARCUS ??/16.64 40 21 25 15 11 11 16 S LANCE A SWORD A AXE OSWIN 15/04.03 41 18 15 09 07 19 07 A LANCE C AXE SERRA 03.73 19 04 05 09 08 03 07 D STAFF FLORINA 11/09.10 32 18 19 19 16 12 11 A LANCE E SWORD ISADORA ??/09.26 36 15 15 22 12 10 10 A SWORD A LANCE C AXE PENT ??/11.13 34 21 23 19 17 12 18 S ANIMA A STAFF Hello General!Eliwood. Chapter 27 - 7/106 Turns Linus was taken care of by BraveLance!Marcus once he got there. Pent took care of most of the enemies in the main wave. Florina took care of the west. Jaffar, Eliwood, Oswin, Vaida, and Isadora took care of the reinforcement Wyverns. UNIT LEVEL HP ST SK SP LC DF RS WEP LEVEL SUPPORT ELIWOOD 15/01.00 35 13 13 12 14 13 11 A SWORD D LANCE MARCUS ??/18.19 41 21 26 16 12 11 16 S LANCE A SWORD A AXE OSWIN 15/04.60 41 18 15 09 07 19 07 A LANCE C AXE SERRA 03.73 19 04 05 09 08 03 07 D STAFF FLORINA 11/10.51 33 19 19 20 16 12 12 A LANCE E SWORD ISADORA ??/09.69 36 15 15 22 12 10 10 S LANCE A SWORD C AXE PENT ??/12.98 35 22 23 19 17 12 18 S ANIMA A STAFF JAFFAR ??/13.38 34 19 25 24 10 15 11 A SWORD VAIDA ??/09.15 43 20 19 13 11 21 06 A LANCE A SWORD Chapter 28 - 7/113 Turns Eliwood rushed. Marcus got to the top ahead of him, so he lured in Georg, so Eliwood would have a clear seize. Pent was on the other side. Edited November 29, 2011 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 What am supposed to do, restart if Marcus blicks a boss? He had 16 base crit with the javelin, and he doubled. It's not all that unlikely. He has 21 crit with the short spear as well. Also, I'm pretty sure 13x counts for more than 1 turn. Of course not, it's silly to reject a run if you get lucky on it. I'm not saying you shouldn't crit abuse, just don't pretend you're not doing it. I'm certainly going to do it, not that it will help my cause. That was a joke, because it's a forced turncount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 can you please edit your turn count so that it accurately shows your turn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahlman Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) Ch 11 - 4/4 I probably got the Eliwood drop positioning "wrong", but Lowen fixed it by doubling and ORKOing the Archer that blocked Eliwood's path to the throne. One restart to figure out that Marcus isn't supposed to Rescue on turn 1 since he needs to be able to double on turn 1 EP or things just get screwed (especially if the RNG trolls you on turn 2 PP). Didn't bother grabbing Dragonshield since there should be lots of money anyway. Eliwood 1.54, base Marcus 1.30, base Lowen 2.64, 23 hp 7/5/7/3/7/0 (I remember his bases being better than that? It's been a long time) Bartre 2.67, 29 hp 9/5/3/4/4/0 Ch 12 - 5/9 Hector and Oswin being free is pretty much necessary to the 5 turn clear as far as I can figure. Lowen can't handle the north on his own, and while there have been one or two times I've gotten Zagan to go north/west instead of south, I have no idea how it works. Marcus got a totally unnecessary crit on the second hit on Zagan, and Hector got a totally unnecessary Wolf Beil crit on a loldier. Lowen finally got a chance to trade an Iron Sword to Eliwood so he could stop wasting the Rapier, then he needed it once more anyway Eliwood went shopping on the last turn, while Rebecca and Dorcas watched from a distance. I also had Rebecca buy 5 Vulneraries on the last turn because hey, you never know. Eliwood 2.24, 19 hp 5/5/7/7/6/0, on track to becoming another General imo. Marcus 1.88, base Lowen 3.41, 24 hp 7/6/7/4/7/1 Bartre 3.55, 30 hp 9/5/3/4/4/0, fail. Ch 13 6/15 Steel Axe!Bartre breaks the snag, and an undrafted unit helps hand the Hand Axe and Iron Axe over to Marcus. Eliwood crosses the river. Lowen handles the south, saving the village and avoiding meatshielding penalties for the others. Javelin!Marcus takes a potshot at Guy for funsies after dispatching Boies. Serra visits the Torch village and actually gets to heal once. Yay, I'm keeping pace. I'm accustomed to thinking of these chapters as taking like 3 turns longer each with a full team. o_O Eliwood 2.75, 19 hp 5/5/7/7/6/0 Marcus 2.63, 32 hp 16/15/11/9/10/9. Why does he get so much more exp here? Lowen 4.95, 25hp 7/7/8/4/8/1 Bartre 3.93, 30 hp 9/5/3/4/4/0, still fail. Serra 1.12, OH SO PRETTY Ch 13x LOL/22 Meatshielding is fun, but getting exp for your drafted units is more fun. Eliwood visits the village on the last turn and Lowen picks up the boss kill after chipping on EP and Marcus weakening further with a Javelin on turn 7. Oswin, Hector and Matthew do most of the meatshield tanking while Rebecca just tries to find somewhere useful to stand. Eliwood 3.62, 20 hp 6/5/7/7/6/1 Marcus 3.10, 33 hp 17/16/11/9/11/10, notbad.jpg Lowen 6.67, 26hp 8/7/9/6/10/2, I told you he'd be ridiculous. Bartre 4.71, 31 hp 9/5/3/5/5/1, well at least he won't die as much now. Serra 1.80, still pretty. Edited November 30, 2011 by zahlman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 Ch 14 LOL/22 Meatshielding is fun, but getting exp for your drafted units is more fun. Eliwood visits the village on the last turn and Lowen picks up the boss kill after chipping on EP and Marcus weakening further with a Javelin on turn 7. Oswin, Hector and Matthew do most of the meatshield tanking while Rebecca just tries to find somewhere useful to stand. Eliwood 3.62, 20 hp 6/5/7/7/6/1 Marcus 3.10, 33 hp 17/16/11/9/11/10, notbad.jpg Lowen 6.67, 26hp 8/7/9/6/10/2, I told you he'd be ridiculous. Bartre 4.71, 31 hp 9/5/3/5/5/1, well at least he won't die as much now. Serra 1.80, still pretty. You didn't meatshield in this chapter, did you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 In my case, I hadn't counted on the crit to land. . .but my Marcus has an A in axes, so it's not completely out of the question. Those in chat heard me WTF hard about it when it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) You didn't meatshield in this chapter, did you? I think he means chapter 13x, not 14 like it said in his log. Also, clipsey, A rank doesn't give crit bonus, but you said he was wielding Basilikos, so I'm pretty sure you meant S-Rank Time to finish this shit. Chapter 29 - 11/124 Turns Defend chaptersssss UNIT LEVEL HP ST SK SP LC DF RS WEP LEVEL SUPPORT ELIWOOD 15/03.05 37 14 15 14 14 13 12 A SWORD D LANCE MARCUS ??/19.25 42 21 26 16 12 11 16 S LANCE A SWORD A AXE OSWIN 15/05.03 42 19 15 10 08 20 08 A LANCE C AXE SERRA 03.73 19 04 05 09 08 03 07 D STAFF FLORINA 11/13.40 34 20 20 23 18 13 13 S LANCE E SWORD ISADORA ??/10.62 37 15 15 23 13 11 10 S LANCE A SWORD C AXE PENT ??/14.34 35 22 24 21 17 12 18 S ANIMA A STAFF JAFFAR ??/15.47 36 19 26 24 11 16 11 A SWORD VAIDA ??/09.15 43 20 19 13 11 21 06 A LANCE A SWORD I finally ran out of javelins after buying like 50 in chapter 20. Time to buy 50 more ~ I was too lazy to move Jaffar to get the treasure, I have like 25000 gold without selling the fell contract or the 29x money. Edited November 29, 2011 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Restarting due to Oswin lol. Chapter 11: 4/4 The usual Chapter 12: 5/9 The usual. I buy 2 iron swords. Chapter 13: 6/15 Bit more tricky without Oswin and highly unfavourable RNG. Dealing with a certain hand axe brigand costs me a turn. Chapter 13x: 7/22 The usual defending thing. Marcus gets the gold. Chapter 14: 4/26 Dorcas goes south, Marcus takes the middle, Matt and Eli stay back for the soldiers, Guy takes the north. Chapter 15: 6/32 Marcus runs up. Dorcas rescues Eliwood on turn 1 and drops him across the mountains on turn 2. I forget to shop for proper weapons for Kent and Sain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) Chapter 29x - 5/129 Turns Shopping and arena. Uneventful. Chapter 30 - 7/136 Turns Florina carried Eliwood most of the way and dropped him across the river, but behind her on turn 5. She killed all the cavalier/knights in her way, and Eliwood killed a Sniper blocking Vaida's path (this was crucial) but was in range to seize. Florina critted once with the killer lance on the turn 6 player phase for a total of 32/68 damage, then hit twice more for 24 more damage with Silver. 56 total. Isadora, who was dropped by Vaida on turn 6, rescued Florina and Vaida finished Limstella with the brave lance. Eliwood seized. UNIT LEVEL HP ST SK SP LC DF RS WEP LEVEL SUPPORT ELIWOOD 15/04.01 37 15 16 13 14 13 12 A SWORD D LANCE MARCUS ??/19.64 42 21 26 16 12 11 16 S LANCE A SWORD A AXE OSWIN 15/06.90 43 19 15 10 08 21 08 A LANCE C AXE SERRA 03.73 19 04 05 09 08 03 07 D STAFF FLORINA 11/15.33 35 21 21 24 18 13 13 S LANCE E SWORD ISADORA ??/12.26 39 15 17 24 14 11 11 S LANCE A SWORD C AXE PENT ??/15.06 36 22 24 21 18 13 19 S ANIMA A STAFF JAFFAR ??/16.72 37 19 26 24 11 17 11 A SWORD VAIDA ??/12.24 43 22 19 14 12 22 06 A LANCE A SWORD Final Part 1 9/145 Turns This is a lot tougher without Luna!Athos, since the only Luna in EHM is in the dragon's gate chest. With the help of door keys, I was able to clear out all the inital enemies by turn 5, then Florina dropped a healthy Athos in front of Nergal with Aureola (not being able to use a speedwing or a body ring sucks too, Athos doesn't double Nergal or the Dragon, he's 1 AS off.) He hit him once on turn 5 EP, was physic'd by Pent, then attacked Nergal again, then Nergal suicided EP. The dragon took 3 more turns because Athos didn't double. He Aureola'd on turn 1, was healed, and countered. to bring the dragon down to 80 health. He was healed, and countered again on turn 2 EP. He was healed again, and attacked, bringing the dragon down to 20 health. Marcus used the Rex Hasta for 2 damage (he had 21 strength) and Vaida used it with help from Isadora to do 4 damage (23 strength). Eliwood finished with Durandal (16 strength +5 from Durandal). Unit Analysis: Marcus is ridiculous, Eliwood kinda sucked, Florina was amazing, Oswin was awesome early on, then faded once Florina promoted, Isadora was like another Marcus except not quite as amazing, Vaida trucked things in the late chapters and was invincible, Pent won like 95% of his battles and has staff utility, Legault wasn't recruited, Jaffar Silenced Brendan in endgame, And Athos killed the last couple of bosses. Oh and I forgot Serra. I didn't use her. She's still level 3. It was a shame, because both of her level ups were amazing. And Chapter 28x turncount was confirmed for 19 turns. Edited November 29, 2011 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 Damn, 145 turns. I have to devise a plan to to see you with no flyers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I think the only way you'd be able to do that is by banning fliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I think banning Marcus would have been better after a certain point, I only really needed him on 4/5ths of the chapters. But yeah, people without Fliers on VoD are screwed. Or Elie, if you do this again, maybe make Florina free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 Considering marcus free until flo for my next draft...primarily because chapter 14 could be darn near impassible with only eliwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 Chapter 13: 6/15 Bit more tricky without Oswin and highly unfavourable RNG. Dealing with a certain hand axe brigand costs me a turn. He"s giving me a hard time too, yarg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahlman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) You didn't meatshield in this chapter, did you? Sorry, typo, will fix. 14 should say 13x. This is the real chapter 14: Ch 14 4/26 This is the last time I do well. Bartre procced Speed on a level-up from the first loldier near the start, enabling him to double the others with Iron. Marcus rushed west and pwninated mostly with an Iron Lance. Horseslayers are lol in this game, poor Erik. Lowen brought Eliwood south and they dealt with stuff down there. Eliwood 4.03, 21hp 6/6/7/7/7/1, coming along decently I guess. Marcus 3.90, 33hp 17/16/11/9/11/10. Lowen 7.13, 27hp 8/8/9/7/10/3, dat res. Bartre 5.74, 32hp 9/5/4/5/5/2 omg he doubled something. Also Res. Serra 1.91, still pretty. Wish I understood how that 5-turn Ch13 is supposed to work. Eliwood can't get there by himself in 5 turns crossing the river, and Marcus tends not to double stuff while rescuing... although actually I guess that first archer will suicide himself, and most other stuff are bandits and loldiers that will be OHKOd by the Steel Sword... ? Seems like it requires ridiculous precision, anyway. Edited November 30, 2011 by zahlman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) Wish I understood how that 5-turn Ch13 is supposed to work. Eliwood can't get there by himself in 5 turns crossing the river, and Marcus tends not to double stuff while rescuing... although actually I guess that first archer will suicide himself, and most other stuff are bandits and loldiers that will be OHKOd by the Steel Sword... ? Seems like it requires ridiculous precision, anyway. It requires Oswin, Dorcas or Bartre. The important thing is that somebody other than Marcus breaks the snag from Village to Boss so that Marcus can move through without getting blocked by the FHAB. I think Eliwood might need certain procs in order to OHKO some enemies and not die, as well. Chapter 16: 9/49 Eliwood can't quite OHKO archers, so Marcus carries him forward, using Hand Axes in order to counter. Erk mops up enemies left behind, then helps Prissy reach Emoboy, who recruits Aerosmith. The thieves must turn up later, it's funny because I'm used to them pilfering the northern chests before I can reach them. Chapter 16x: 6/55 Marcus Mooncalf ran the gauntlet, while Eli, Lucius and Erk trained on the pirates in the lane. Eventually Serra and Priscilla came out to ransack villages. Delayed a couple turns to get Lancereaver and Sleep Staff. Priscilla talked to Fargus. Chapter 17: 8/63 I needed Matthew since I've got too many mages. Everybody ran to the western ship, Erk choked the mercs, which worked well as long as he didn't crit, Serra backed him up. Prissy carried Matthew while Marcus and Eliwood dealt with the shamen. On Turn 7 most of them were dead, so she could drop Matthew within range of the boss. He stole guiding ring on turn 8, and Marcus killed him. Chapter 18: 7/70 Marcus took the point while everyone else followed. Gabrielle was deployed to recruit Squadron Killer. Nearly got delayed when Lucy walked within Longbow range, but Marcus finished Uhai on EP. Chapter 18x: 7/77 No Silver Card for me, because Matthew is too slow (prob would've taken a penalty for it anyway), but he could steal the Elysian Whip. So Merlinus was used as a sacrifical lamb, then Lucius tempted the peggies so Matthew could steal it on the turn Eli seized. Both Eli and Fiora had fun with killing defenceless mages. Erk killed the knights, then went to help kill peggies. Priscilla got me 4 grand. Marcus ORKO'd whatever he breathed on. Chapter 19: 9+4/90 Matthew took a penalty, because Luna and Brave Bow. Marcus charged up the front, and killed Camera. Lyn and Hector were useless crap that I somehow managed to keep out of trouble. Marcus killed Darin, because Eliwood got delayed trying to recruit Legault, which I didn't bother with because he didn't pilfer the chests in time. The thief who takes the Guiding Ring has no sense of self-preservation. Name Level HP St Sk Sp Lu De Re B W Eliwood 12.62 28 9 12 12 11 8 6 103 45 Marcus 10.82 37 18 20 13 10 12 11 156 109 Serra 4.92 18 4 7 8 8 3 8 18 0 Erk 12.73 28 10 11 10 6 4 9 63 44 Priscilla 5.94 18 6 8 8 8 4 8 17 0 Lucius 9.30 21 11 9 10 3 2 9 27 18 Fiora 10.83 24 9 13 14 7 7 9 23 14 Erk's HP is pretty sweet. Edited November 30, 2011 by Baldrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahlman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) It requires Oswin, Dorcas or Bartre. The important thing is that somebody other than Marcus breaks the snag from Village to Boss so that Marcus can move through without getting blocked by the FHAB. I think Eliwood might need certain procs in order to OHKO some enemies and not die, as well. I assume we're taking the north path and you mean the second snag? On turn 3 I assume... and then I guess Marcus has to hand back a square since my Bartre wasn't going to do the job with a Hand Axe... hrm. What's a FHAB? Ch15 5/31 Ok, I was wrong. This is the last time I do well. This took many restarts because I got really unlucky (cumulatively). I would have been satisfied with 6 except that the strategy seemed so beautiful and so, well, possible. Marcus either needs to proc Speed on his mid-level level-up (so that he can double Bauker with a Steel Axe) or crit once at 9% on two attacks, and a couple other things need to not epically fail. It really shouldn't have taken so many attempts considering that's a combined chance of like 38% (ignoring the part where Marcus could have procced Speed on his previous two level-ups and didn't... but then, he also needs 2/3 Strength procs, and happens to have already got both...). The RNG trolled me relentlessly by having Lowen get ridiculous numbers of totally unnecessary crits, and having Marcus proc all over the place except for Speed. Seriously, one of them was Skill, Def and Res. Naturally, as soon as I start actually thinking about deliberately manipulating the RNG from a fresh restart instead of just restarting repeatedly, it turns out to be trivial to get the Speed proc (after doing everything else "according to script", Marcus just has to be the second one to attack on Turn 3 PP after Lowen finishes off a Cavalier). Bartre holds on to Eliwood for a little bit in the hills while Marcus crosses them, then hands him off on turn 4 so that Marcus can drop him just in range of the throne. Lowen goes south and gains some exp (and presumably keeps the path a little clearer for Marcus). Serra is pretty on the hill tile next to Merlinus, dodge-tanking admirably against whatever sneaks past Lowen. On turn 5 she heals Merlinus and levels up. Florina gets both villages and stays out of everyone else's way. Wil and Lyn shop till they drop (I hold on to the Blue Gem for now though). A bit of clever trading enables Kent and Sain to each get a Javelin on turn 1 while Sain also positions to distract the enemy Archer near the boss. Kent Kents. Lyn takes a couple shots with the pasta blade and manages not to get herself killed. My units were unnecessarily crit-happy on the rest of turn 5 PP between Marcus taking out the boss and Eliwood seizing. The RNG is a major troll. Eliwood 4.04, 21hp 6/6/7/7/7/1, 1 xp from getting hit by Fire. Marcus 4.71, 34hp 17/17/12/9/11/11. Figures the level-up that procs Speed would be a +4 one. Lowen 8.65, 28hp 8/8/9/7/10/3, HP only = you can't win 'em all. Bartre 5.76, 32hp 9/5/4/5/5/2, 2 xp from getting hit by one of the mountain bandits and from making a vain attempt on turn 5 to hit a merc. Serra 2.02, 17hp 2/6/8/6/3/5, and still pretty. Edit: I guess Florina isn't supposed to get the villages, but it doesn't alter anything in the AI as far as I'm aware as she's always out of range. I'll ignore the Red Gem and Heavy Spear in my inventory, they're pretty much useless anyway. Ch16 9/40 The usual Marcus rush business. Matthew is deployed to obtain the Hero Crest because later ones will be more annoying to get. This required some careful positioning on the first couple of turns to avoid taking a meatshielding penalty for Matthew while also not having to Rescue him. Bartre took out the Shaman. Lowen helped Eliwood catch up, and Marcus backtracked a couple of spaces to complete the convoy. Marcus was 1HP away from 2HKOing the boss with a Steel Axe, and finished the job with a Hand Axe on Turn 9 PP. I didn't get Priscilla on Ch14 (you don't have to visit the south village AFAIK, but apparently you have to either do that *or* recruit Erk... or something... ?) so recruiting Raven was not an option, but a 9 turn clear means the Caelin soldiers never get attacked anyway, and an extra Steel Sword is nothing special. Serra continued to attempt to spam Heal, managing 4 opportunities in 9 turns (I'm sure that could be improved). 9 turns also means Merlinus only faces one attack, and survives easily. Eliwood 5.32, 22hp 6/7/7/7/8/2, tank-some. Marcus 5.99, 35hp 17/17/12/9/11/11. And here we go back to crappy level-ups. Lowen 9.25, 29hp 8/8/9/7/10/4, laughing at mages. Bartre 6.23, 33hp 10/5/5/5/6/2 Serra 2.48, 17hp 2/6/8/6/3/5, and still pretty. Ch16x 4/44 Marcus is, unsurprisingly, a mooncalf. He manages not to get crit, while Lowen grabs the Devil Axe, Bartre recruits CANofwhoopASs who manages to get a few kills, and Eliwood and Serra pretend to be useful. Eliwood 5.42, 22hp 6/7/7/7/8/2, tank-some. Marcus 6.56, 36hp 17/17/13/9/11/12. Moar speed! Lowen 9.56, 29hp 8/8/9/7/10/4, laughing at mages. Bartre 6.65, 33hp 10/5/5/5/6/2 Serra 2.70, 17hp 2/6/8/6/3/5, and still pretty. Canas 8.54, SOON. Ch17 4/48 Hey kids let's all go visit Zoldam! Won't that be fun? STFU, yes it will. Matthew steals the Guiding ring for Canas (yay necessary promotion items), which cost me a 3-turn clear instead. Marcus got a perfect level-up off of Zoldam so I'm not complaining. He needs to dodge a 14% crit (86% hit) that exactly OHKOs him. Eliwood 5.85, 22hp 6/7/7/7/8/2, tank-some. Marcus 7.30, 37hp 18/18/14/10/12/13. EPIC. Lowen 10.23, 30hp 8/8/10/7/10/4, begging me with invisible puppy-dog eyes for promotion. Bartre 6.75, 33hp 10/5/5/5/6/2 Serra 2.94, 17hp 2/6/8/6/3/5, about to become prettier. Canas 8.93, even sooner. Ch18 6/54 Bartre can't take out snags with a Hand Axe, which slows down the path through the island. So close >_< Although even then, it's seemingly impossible to put Dart anywhere that he won't get dinged for meatshielding if I go that way. So everyone heads south, Marcus rush, no crit or torch yadda yadda. Annoyingly he gets an unnecessary crit on turn 6 PP, and then a crappy level-up. Everyone else got a decent chunk of exp though. Merlinus died, so I had to discard a 9-use Hand Axe to keep the Orion's bolt for sale. Fiora fights valiantly and ultimately fails. Doesn't seem worthwhile to try to recruit her for her stuff and then keep both Fiora and Florina out of combat. Eliwood 6.49, 23hp 6/8/8/7/8/3, which means I had his Skill wrong the last several chapters (edited). Marcus 8.49, 37hp 18/18/14/11/12/13. Back to suck. Lowen 10.92, 30hp 8/8/10/7/10/4 Bartre 7.44, 34hp 11/6/6/5/6/3 watch out guys he's getting faster. Serra 3.40, 17hp 3/6/8/7/3/5, and C staves now. Canas 9.64, 22hp 11/10/8/7/5/8. 18x 5/59 Quite satisfied with this. Lowen rescues and drops Eliwood on the first two turns, who then manages to walk the rest of the way. He forgot to switch to the Rapier but it wouldn't have made a real difference as things turn out. Marcus rushes ahead with a Hand Axe and a Javelin, ensuring on turn 3 PP that he's clear of the magic seal radius, causing all the mages to go after him and get out of the way. Turns 4 and 5 are dedicated to Marcus scoring 2 hits on the boss; not quite a KO with Iron Lance because of throne healing, but there were other options, and Lowen gets a chance to assist on turn 5 and got a lucky 32% hit with a Javelin. Canas and Bartre play with some peggies after ensuring that Eliwood and Lowen have a reasonably clear path. Serra manages to spam Heal a little more and just barely not die. Eliwood 6.82, 23hp 6/8/8/7/8/3 Marcus 9.54, 38hp 18/19/15/11/12/13 Lowen 11.45, 31hp 8/8/10/8/10/4, another crappy one :/ Bartre 8.09, 35hp 11/6/6/5/6/3 fail level is fail. Serra 3.89, 17hp 3/6/8/7/3/5 Canas 10.29, 23hp 11/11/8/7/5/9. Edited November 30, 2011 by zahlman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) Chapter 16: 9/41 I guess this is the same thing as everyone else. I get the Hero Crest. Since I don't have any friggen chest keys yet I can't get the knight crest. I may and may not end up regretting not being able to promote my cavs early. Level HP Str Skl Spd Luck Def Res Eliwood 6 21 7 9 10 9 7 0 Marcus 5 34 15 17 13 10 11 10 Dorcas 7 33 10 8 9 6 3 1 Serra 2 18 3 6 8 6 2 5 Matthew 5 20 4 7 14 5 5 0 Guy 6 23 7 14 14 6 8 0 Kent 7 25 9 7 9 4 6 1 Sain 7 24 12 5 9 6 7 0 Raven 5 25 8 11 13 2 5 1 Chapter 16x: 4/45 Marcus, Guy, Kent, Sain and Eliwood were mooncalves. May have been RNG blessed cause I didn't think this endeavour would work out as well as it did. Raven went up and killed some bandits. Chapter 17: 4/49 Pretty easy, really. Straight Marcus rush would have been faster but I wanted the guiding ring and EXP. Marcus carries Matthew into Zoldam's range on turn 3 and I have to manipulate the RNG a little bit to get 3 out of 4 shamans who will attack Matt to miss. Turn 4 I steal the guiding ring and Marcus kills boss man. I also buy some swords, javelins, hand axes and other stuff. Level HP Str Skl Spd Luck Def Res Eliwood 7 22 7 10 10 9 8 1 Marcus 6 35 16 18 13 10 11 11 Dorcas 8 34 10 9 9 6 4 1 Serra 2 18 3 6 8 6 2 5 Matthew 6 21 5 7 15 5 6 0 Guy 7 23 7 14 14 7 8 0 Kent 9 26 9 8 10 5 6 1 Sain 8 25 12 5 9 7 7 1 Raven 6 26 9 12 13 2 5 2 Edited November 30, 2011 by Daigoji Excellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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