VincentASM Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I kind of stumbled upon some removed songs ages ago when looking for questions for a quiz, but I had a deeper look today, while trying to help shadowofchaos with a music-related hacking question, and I realised what I discovered previously was just the tip of a iceberg. In total, 26 songs didn't make it into the final game. Before anyone gets confused, these songs exist as text labels only and the actual songs are not present in the game data--presumably they weren't added to the disk or even created in the first place. It seems Bertram, Petrine and Ena were each going to get their own battle theme. Maybe Ena was going to be the 4th Rider, instead of Bryce? There were also going to be themes for Sephiran and Ashera (although Ashera's theme may not have been used for herself, but when explaining her history, but that's just my guess). I think the most interesting point is that there were apparently plans to implement an arena of some kind and possibly a class roll. If you checked the official FE10 Q and As, you may know that arenas were removed because the developers weren't sure whether to include it due to it breaking the game balance. BGM_BTL_BEUFORRES1 #Bertram BGM_BTL_PRAGUE1 #Petrine BGM_BTL_ENA1 BGM_BTL_MAGIC1 BGM_EVT_FATHER1 BGM_EVT_JOY1 BGM_EVT_ASTARTE1 #Ashera BGM_EVT_SEPHERAN1 #Sephiran BGM_OPENING1 BGM_OPENING2 BGM_OPENING_SHOW #Class roll? BGM_PRO00 #World map BGM_PRO04 BGM_PRO05 BGM_PRO06 BGM_COLOSSEUM_INFO1 #Arena BGM_COLOSSEUM_BTL1 BGM_COLOSSEUM_FF1 BGM_DUMMY_69 BGM_DUMMY_70 BGM_DUMMY_71 BGM_DUMMY_72 BGM_DUMMY_73 BGM_DUMMY_74 FF_CHAPTER_START1_1 FF_CHAPTER_START1_2 Now I'm interested to know if FE10 had any songs cut, since that game already had a dozen unused songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Does Greil have a special theme or something like that? This is just me guessing, but that's what I think the Father tag is referring too. Magic might be Elena or something, but that's just because it's next to them and I'm guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) I think BGM_BTL_MAGIC1 would have been a battle theme (hence the "BTL" in the name) for casting magic or using a staff. Using a staff probably makes the most sense, but I would expect the tag to be named slightly differently if that was the case, so... no clue : o BGM_EVT_FATHER1 also confuses me because there are already one or two themes related to Ike's father that play during the game ("His Father's Son" and "Father's Back"). I'm kind of lazy to figure out this puzzle right now : P Edited January 18, 2012 by VincentASM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Do you record all this unused stuff and where you found it? I've been meaning to add in some articles on unused content to TCRF (a site dedicated to unused content in games), but I haven't had the time to sit down and sift through all the fan information, as well as the games themselves and still haven't looked at those 3D models yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 BGM_DUMMY_69BGM_DUMMY_70 BGM_DUMMY_71 BGM_DUMMY_72 BGM_DUMMY_73 BGM_DUMMY_74 All of these are Makalov's theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 All of these are Makalov's theme. i wonder how epic win they must've been >: D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Do you record all this unused stuff and where you found it? I've been meaning to add in some articles on unused content to TCRF (a site dedicated to unused content in games), but I haven't had the time to sit down and sift through all the fan information, as well as the games themselves and still haven't looked at those 3D models yet About 90% of the unused data I've found is recorded on this page. As for "where", do you mean like which game file or some kind of physical proof? When you get around to those articles, could you let me have a preview, in case I have anything to add or fix? Since I'm on a roll, anybody remember this? { class ComboBox name BgmBox layer desktop parent battleWin show 1 rgba 255, 255, 255, 255 pos 108, 126 size 250, 16 item BGM_NONE item BGM_BTL_PL01 item BGM_BTL_PL02 item BGM_BTL_CP01 item BGM_BTL_CP02 item BGM_BTL_BOSS1 item BGM_BTL_BOSS2 item BGM_BTL_ZELGIUS1 item BGM_BTL_LAST_BOSS1 item BGM_BTL_LAST_BOSS1_LP item BGM_BTL_CLASS_CHANGE1 } I don't believe I posted the whole thing, but I used a part of it to "prove" the Black Knight's identity... Moving away from song data, but in the same file, here are some preliminary lists of skills: # 奥義・ドラゴン用 EID_K_SP_DRAGON # 奥義・賢者用 EID_K_SP_SAGE # 奥義・司祭用 EID_K_SP_PRIEST # 見切り EID_K_MIKIRI # キャンセル EID_K_CANCEL 奥義・瞬殺1 EID_K_SP_QKILL1 奥義・瞬殺2 EID_K_SP_QKILL2 奥義・ペガサス用 EID_K_SP_PEGASUS 奥義・ドラゴン用 EID_K_SP_DRAGON 奥義・主人公用 EID_K_SP_HERO 奥義・怒り EID_K_SP_ANGER 奥義・狙撃 EID_K_SP_SNIPE 奥義・大盾 EID_K_SP_OOTATE 奥義・月光 EID_K_SP_MOONL 奥義・陽光 EID_K_SP_SUNSHINE 奥義・流星 EID_K_SP_SSTAR 奥義・太陽 EID_K_SP_SUN It seems Wyvern Lords, Falcon Knights, Sages and Bishops were each going to get their own Mastery skill, instead of sharing Stun and Flare. Additionally, Wrath and Great Shield were planned as Mastery skills--the Wrath Mastery later became Colossus, while Great Shield presumably became the Hawk's Cancel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 About 90% of the unused data I've found is recorded on this page. As for "where", do you mean like which game file or some kind of physical proof? When you get around to those articles, could you let me have a preview, in case I have anything to add or fix? For where, I mean that some of your information isn't really explained, and so there's no real way to show that some information isn't just mere speculation. Like the FE1 example, with the telescope suggesting FoW... but I don't remember there being item descriptions in FE1, so I don't see where that information came from. And if I ever do, I'll be sure to let you know. They're not really articles so much, though as they are just pointing out and detailing the unused data (and expanding on its significance, if there's implications of larger things, like planned things that never made the cut [as you posted in this thread, for example] ) :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 In that case, I don't really have any documentation, only my memory in most cases. Nobody's ever asked me where these details came from in the past and it would be bothersome for me explain every single detail, so I just hoped that people will take my word for it : P In the Telescope's case, I believe it says "Vision/Sight increased by 5" when you use the item. Like when you use a statbooster. If you need to know any other specific details, you can ask me and I'll try to remember where it came from or direct you to a method of finding out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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