whase Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 is there any easy way in nightmare, for any of the GBA games, to make the range for tomes 1-mag/2 like certain staves? I'm not sure, but for physic it's either hard coded or I'm completely missing it... anyways, if it's too hard, I'll just forget about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconVegeta1986 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Hm. I would say check the abilities of staves with the same effect to see what they're set as, and use those settings for the tome. I don't have access to my computer ATM, or I would look it up for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I could be wrong, but it may be FF. I'm not entirely sure though; like EoP said, check out the Physic and/or Fortify staff to see *too lazy to check himself* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 I've been able to get range to mg/2, but once I did it wasn't counted as a weapon any longer and couldn't attack at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Did you make sure you made one of the weapon's abilities a weapon? You have to classify it as such IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 hmm, been testing some more, above conclusion is probably wrong. as it is: sleep: minimum-maximum range: 0x10 staff/use effect: 0x08 conclusion: range= 1-mag/2 fire: minimum-maximum range: 0x12 staff/use effect: 0x00 conclusion: range= 1-2 what I tried: fire: minimum-maximum range: 0x10 staff/use effect: 0x08 conclusion: range said mg/2, no attack range was available fire: minimum-maximum range: 0x11 staff/use effect: 0x08 conclusion: range= 1 fire: minimum-maximum range: 0x10 staff/use effect: 0x00 conclusion: no attack range was available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) By "no attack range was available", do you mean that the red tiles didn't show up? Cause I kinda remember Ryrumeli (where is he anyway? Haven't seen him in a while) saying that the game is only programmed for certain combinationsm i.e. it has to be programmed to display certain ranges. So basically in the game, 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 3-10, and probably a few other ranges were programmed for attack ones, then 1-1, 1-(3? for unlock?), mg/2, etc were programmed or staves. Edit: so try fire with use effect 0x00 and range 0x10, but don't just discount it cause the red tiles don't pop up, try selecting an enemy or something :P This is just theoretical, I have noooo clue if it'll work XP Edited February 3, 2012 by Jubby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) By "no attack range was available", do you mean that the red tiles didn't show up? Cause I kinda remember Ryrumeli (where is he anyway? Haven't seen him in a while) saying that the game is only programmed for certain combinationsm i.e. it has to be programmed to display certain ranges. So basically in the game, 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 3-10, and probably a few other ranges were programmed for attack ones, then 1-1, 1-(3? for unlock?), mg/2, etc were programmed or staves. Edit: so try fire with use effect 0x00 and range 0x10, but don't just discount it cause the red tiles don't pop up, try selecting an enemy or something :P This is just theoretical, I have noooo clue if it'll work XP I did try that, gave mage!Eirika 6 mag, moved her to 3, 2 and 1 range, no attack command showed up, only the item and wait command. tried it with all 3 things I tried Edited February 3, 2012 by whase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Hmmm, I'm not sure then. I'll try to dig up that thread and see if anything can be relearned from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Here it is, I haven't read it over again yet, but if you can glean some info from it, cool. I'll look it over laterr. http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28655 It may be that 1-0 just doesn't work though, and it actually means 1-0 if it's not considered a staff :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 hmm, been testing some more, above conclusion is probably wrong. *notes* 0x10, as it stands, means "1-0 range". 4 bits for minimum and maximum range. I vaguely remember it being hardcoded (only staves, and only the staves at that table offset), but don't quote me on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I figured it was probably just for staves. If nothing worked for the magic :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) DId you actually try to attack with them at mag/2 range? It could just be a graphics fuckup like Ryru described in the thread you linked. Edited February 4, 2012 by Camtech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) DId you actually try to attack with them at mag/2 range? It could just be a graphics fuckup like Ryru described in the thread you linked. I did try that, gave mage!Eirika 6 mag, moved her to 3, 2 and 1 range, no attack command showed up, only the item and wait command. tried it with all 3 things I tried Here it is, I haven't read it over again yet, but if you can glean some info from it, cool. I'll look it over laterr. http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28655 It may be that 1-0 just doesn't work though, and it actually means 1-0 if it's not considered a staff :P thanks for the link, I'll take a look at it in a bit. EDIT: read the topic, didn't exactly help...thanks either way, though Edited February 4, 2012 by whase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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