Konnor97 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 More progress! Ch 15: 7 turns Ch 16: 10 turns Ch 17: 15 turns Ch 17x: Doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) DarkShuyin: Only chapers 23x and 28x don't add to the turncount. The rest of the gaidens do. Chapter 14 - 7/27 I had to restart a previous run because a stupid pegasus knight flew out of Bartre's reach to retreat. Who's bright idea was it to put overseas forts in this chapter anyway? I somehow complete the chapter in 7 turns, buy a few vulneraries, and get Bartre two speed level ups. I missed the iron blade village and the chance to buy weapons, though. Chapter 15 - 7/34 Defense chapter of doom. Hector and Eliwood almost died. Merlinus DID die. The throne almost got taken, but I moved Guy onto the throne and the enemy mercenary was stupid and kept on attacking Merlinus. Hector takes a ton of damage from Sealen and can't 2HKO him. This is a first. Bartre is stealing everyone's RNG luck. Edited April 14, 2012 by Jihyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Um, Boron, it says in the first post that Gaidens don't add to turn count, and that 23x and 28x are optional. Edited April 14, 2012 by Konnor97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) ... It does? Well ... must've misread something then. ... Well. It does say that. It should probably be bolded, since that's not how gaidens are typically treated. Edited April 14, 2012 by Jihyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 If Gaidens did count, I'd be screwed immediately. 90 turns on 17x would hurt my chances of winning considerably, wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 O_o Ouch. Arena use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) No, I support abused. I didn't arena abuse because that felt too wrong, didn't even enter the arena. Edited April 14, 2012 by Konnor97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Chapter 16 - 9/43 Lost the Red Gem village. Attempted to train Lyn. Had characters be swarmed by enemies. Kent, Wil, and Sain helped a little. Hector got boss-kill on turn 8 and seized on turn 9. Chapter 17 - 12/55 This chapter is always a pain for me. I couldn't do it any faster without losing turns. Couldn't get the Hero Crest because it cost turns and Matthew isn't mine. Hector got boss-kill again. Chapter 17x - 55 (7) Got all the villages. Lyn sucks. Guy doesn't. Recruited Canas, who got a lucky speed level-up on his first level-up, allowing him to double something. Decided not to spend times even though this chapter doesn't count. I don't have the patience for it. Unit Level HP ST SK SP LC DF RS Hector 19.96 36 18 10 14 07 16 09 Eliwood 13.52 27 08 10 11 12 09 02 Lyn 07.27 19 07 10 12 07 02 02 Bartre 09.68 34 12 08 09 06 06 02 Guy 11.34 29 08 14 17 08 06 05 Canas 09.68 22 10 09 09 07 05 08 As you can plainly see, Hector is my best unit. Guy's lagging in strength, otherwise he'd be golden. Lyn, you put your people to shame. Also, just realized that Bartre and Canas are at the same level, with the exact same experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) More Progress! Ch18: 4 turns Ch19: 12 turns, Penalties: 1 Ch19x: Doesn't matter Edited April 15, 2012 by Konnor97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Chapter 18 - 4/59 Guy stayed behind to clean up enemies on the right side of the boat. Canas, Eliwood, Lyn, and Bartre charged the other side and killed Zoldam. Bartre and Canas are stealing everyone's RNG lucks. Chapter 19 - 10/69 Took longer than it should've because Lyn can't double Uhai and didn't crit. She was the only one who could kill him fast enough, because Hector had to rescue Florina after she recruited Fiora. Dart and Fiora made this chapter a lot easier though. I should draft Dart more often. Chapter 19x - 69 (13) Could have finished sooner, but because gaiden chapters don't count for the final turncount I delayed about three turns to get Canas and Fiora some experience. Canas is awesome, I'm telling you. He doubles, he lives, he dodges ... he hits like a boss! Skipped Renault's village. Unit Level HP ST SK SP LC DF RS Hector 20.00 37 18 10 15 07 16 10 Eliwood 15.56 27 09 12 12 13 10 02 Lyn 10.87 22 08 13 13 08 02 03 Bartre 12.63 37 14 09 11 07 07 02 Guy 15.42 33 11 15 20 09 06 06 Canas 14.33 26 13 11 12 07 07 12 Dart 11.54 36 13 08 10 03 07 01 Fiora 10.88 23 08 11 16 06 07 08 Canas is awesome. Bartre is slowly being awesome. Eliwood and Lyn are . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 What's even better is a skl/spd/def/res bartre with his str being on par with his averages! Yeah, almost done with this. I'll get motivated to do the last 5 chapters sometime soon..-_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arngrim Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) Ch 17 TC: 12/60 Ch 18 TC: 4/64 Ch 19 TC: 7/71 Ch 20 TC: 7/78 Ch 21 TC: 5/83 Unit Level HP ST SK SP LC DF RS Hector 17.34 32 19 16 06 06 18 04 Eliwood 16.51 31 08 10 15 13 08 06 Lyn 18.68 28 12 19 19 14 6 6 Bartre 1.00 47 21 16 12 06 13 10 Dorcas 17.38 43 14 10 08 08 10 00 Kent 17.29 32 10 13 12 11 11 01 Legault 14.12 27 08 13 17 11 09 03 Edited April 15, 2012 by DarkShuyin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Chapter 20 - 7/76 Rushed my army towards Darin, killing stuff that got in the way. Canas and Bartre were able to snag the Luna tome. Legault was recruited. I think Guy killed Darin with a lancereaver. I'm getting faster with these chapters now that I'm skipping treasure. *Chapter 21 - 5/82 I'll have to confirm this turncount later. But anyway, deployed Legault for a Hero Crest. Everyone ran to kill Oleg. Guy is a dodge tank and he dodged stuff quite a bit. Canas is pretty good, too. Hector shopped, since he hit his level cap. Chapter 22 - 9/91 Just realized that since Karla is free, I have all five Sacaeans again. Interesting. Anyway ... I recruit Heath for his axereaver, which he trades to Fiora immediately before leaving, and Lyn recruits Rath. Traded Isadora's Angelic Robe to Ninian. Had a little difficulty keeping everyone alive, but I somehow managed. Took a little longer than I wanted it to, though. Chapter 23 - 12/103 Having Canas and Fiora is fun. I also deployed Legault to dig up stuff. First, sent Fiora over to rescue Pent. I'm going to need to stuff secret books down Dart's throat. Canas hit level 20 and promoted! He then got crit by Luna, but survived. Fiora can dodge stuff while rescuing Pent?! O_o Also, enemy AI is not exactly the brightest. -_- Guy hits level 20 and promotes! Lost a few turns getting treasure, but I hope it's worth it. Chapter 23x - 103 Split my army into two halves, got only the skill book for Dart. Defeated two of Kishuna's guards, defeated the reinforcements that show up. Guy and Rath got their C support. Eliwood and Ninian got their C support. Canas and Bartre got their C support. Unit Level HP ST SK SP LC DF RS Hector 20.00 37 18 10 15 07 16 10 Eliwood 18.24 30 11 13 14 14 11 04 Lyn 15.30 26 11 16 16 11 02 04 Bartre 18.68 43 18 09 12 07 08 03 Guy 21.32 42 14 18 20 10 09 09 Canas 22.65 33 15 13 17 08 12 16 Dart 17.47 41 16 08 15 06 08 03 Fiora 19.21 29 12 17 20 09 08 13 Ninian 05.31 25 00 00 15 13 07 08 Rath 15.75 30 13 12 14 06 11 02 I can't believe everyone but Canas has less resistance than unpromoted Hector. Lyn hasn't gained a single point of defense. Rath looks defense-blessed again. Guy is resistance blessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) Intentionally blank. Edited April 15, 2012 by Jihyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) Even More Progress! Ch20: 11 turns Bartre promotes at base at lvl 20 with stats of 47 18 11 7(with speedwings) 9 6 7 before promotion. Ch21: 6 turns Ch22: 10 turns Ch23: 11 turns Lowen promotes at base at lvl 18 with stats of 37 12 7 10 14 14 7 before promotion. Ch23x: Doesn't matter. Edited April 15, 2012 by Konnor97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) Chapter 24 - 9/122 Chapter 25 - 5/117 Chapter 26 - 11/128 Chapter 27 - 12/140 Chapter 28 - 15/155 Too irritated to re-describe everything. Let's see ... everyone promoted in chapter 25 except Rath, who promoted in chapter 26. Eliwood promoted using the Heaven Seal in chapter 26. Dart on a peak let me shop for staves. Got Karel. Stopped Jaffar from dying to RNG. Edited April 15, 2012 by Jihyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Chapter 28x - 155 Finished in 18 turns. Had a little issue with Rath falling asleep due to sleep staff. I drafted Canas so I could have a magic user who would use Restore, then I forget to bring Restore. How smart am I? Guy and Karel got their C support. Jaffar rescued Nino and stayed out of trouble. Got the speedwings. Canas hit A staves. Chapter 29 - 9/164 Canas and Bartre got their B support! Now I have to wait for Karla. Uh, Eliwood and Ninian got their A support. Got Warp. Rath and Lyn got their A support. Lyn and Rath teamed up on Lloyd. Recruited Vaida. Hector becomes useful at the end of the chapter. Chapter 30 - 7/171 Deployed Rath and Canas alongside Hector. Rath rescues Hector, Canas Warps them as far as he could. Rath then drops Hector and they run over to the boss as fast as they can. Canas catches up to them because I get besieged by enemies. Rath rescues Hector again, and Canas Warps them again to the boss. Hector gets tinked by mages. I am amused. I would be more amused if Kaim wasn't murdering him. I get Rath to kill him. 7 turn clear. Unit Level HP ST SK SP LC DF RS Hector 20/02 41 18 12 18 08 17 16 Eliwood 20/16 46 19 21 24 21 16 12 Lyn 20/10 35 16 29 24 18 06 13 Bartre 20/15 58 27 17 17 12 18 09 Canas 20/15 41 22 17 22 10 17 20 Rath 20/11 47 25 20 23 08 15 10 Guy 20/13 52 16 22 25 16 11 12 Dart 20/15 56 25 17 23 12 11 06 Fiora 20/14 41 17 24 26 15 11 22 Karel --/13 35 17 27 20 16 13 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Chapter 31 - 11/182 Defend chapter. Self-improvement. Got the Body Ring. Everything wants to suicide onto Bartre or Karel instead of Hector. Killed Denning early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Aw fuck, I need to start this. *totally forgot about it* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 Almost done with this. Couldn't find patience to do the pairing ending. Anyways, remember the ridiculous Bartre from the no staves draft? Add on capped skl, and res to that. And you get what I have. Unfortuneatly, gyazo stinks and photobucket stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Chapter 31x - 182 Hahaha. Got Karla. Chapter 32 - 20/202 Things got a little crazy, but I killed Limstella on turn ... somewhere on turn 12-15. I purposely waited until turn 20 to get supports. Bartre and Karla got their C support. Karel and Guy got their B support. Seized on turn 20. This had better be worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Chapter 32x - 202 For the record, I could've done this faster, but I wanted to get supports and level up Karla. Took me somewhere between 27-30 turns before I killed Kishuna. Deployed Guy, Karel, Karla, and Bartre for supports. Final - 12+1/215 Shoot, I can't deploy all of my units. I decide to not bring Dart, because his stinky hit might bite me in the butt. Gave Eliwood the Body Ring so he can double with Durandal. Gave everyone door keys. I spent 12 turns on the first part of final, waiting for Bartre and Karla to produce Fir already. Karla then proceeds to kill Nergal. Dragon went down in one turn, to Filla's Might+Rath support Lyn, doubling-with-Durandal Eliwood, and doubling-with-Armads Hector. Final stats to come in the next post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 My turncount is 215. Bartre/Karla paired ending shaves off 30 turns. Bartre/Canas B shaves off 10 turns total. So my adjusted turncount is 175. If only I can get that naturally. This team was pretty good, for the most part. Hector was epically blessed, and I think he was my best unit for a while. And when he promoted, he picked up again! It's not even funny. Unit Level HP ST SK SP LC DF RS Hector 20/20 56 29 20 23 12 24 17 Eliwood 20/20 50 21 22 24 23 16 15 Lyn 20/20 41 22 29 30 23 08 14 Bartre 20/20 60 28 19 20 12 19 10 Karla --/20 40 21 27 30 22 13 19 Guy 20/20 57 18 26 30 21 12 13 Karel --/20 40 21 29 25 20 14 14 Fiora 20/20 44 18 25 28 18 12 22 Canas 20/19 43 25 17 23 12 17 20 Rath 20/20 55 25 23 25 10 18 15 Dart 20/20 60 28 17 25 14 13 07 Nils 16.30 35 01 01 21 21 10 15 Hector: Super epically blessed Hector. He was tinked by mages in the chapter after his promotion. He was fast almost the entire game through. Had enough strength and defense to hit hard and not die. What can I say? This is pretty much almost the dream Hector. Eliwood: Burden until he promoted. Then he picked up his own weight and did well. Gave him Body Ring so he could double the dragon! He also had A lances. Married to Ninian. Lyn: Also was a burden until a few levels before she promoted. She got second promotion. Picked up and performed well after a couple of levels into her promotion. Married to Rath. Bartre: Star of our show. He got early speed, which helped a lot, and his strength and HP were enough to get him through the game. Has a lot of defense. Married Karla, B with Canas. Karla: Karla usually sucks, but she seemed to realize that she was the co-star of this draft. Look at that strength! She was blessed. Helped out quite a bit. Killed Nergal. Married to Bartre. C with her brother. Guy: He helps with earlygame and I like drafting him. His strength is on par. He was also defense and resistance blessed, which helped a lot. And has a lot of HP. A Karel, B Rath. Karel: Better than he usually turns out for me. Better strength than Guy. Killed stuff dead. A Guy, C Karla. Fiora: Her strength is a bit icky, but I drafted her for flight, desert, chapter 25, and being tinked by mages. She did all those things. So I'm happy with her. Canas: Epic Canas! Drafted him for staves, and he was able to use Warp. Saved me turns. Early speed level ups allowed him to double almost consistently. He was tanky as well. Had enough magic to hit hard. Canas is awesome. B Bartre. Rath: Rath is always great for me, although I think he's a little slower than usual. Still, Rath is always awesome and I always draft him. Married to Lyn. B with Guy. Dart: Dart turned out great. His skill was passable after I gave him secret books. Rarely died, although he got hit by poison stuff quite a bit. Didn't have room for him in final. He's still awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Some More Progress! Ch24 Linus: 9 turns Wil promotes at base at lvl 18 with stats 31 13 12 12 15 9 2 before promotion. Florina promotes mid-chapter at lvl 20 with stats 28 10 17 18 15 6 11 before promotion. Ch25: 7 turns Raven promotes at base at lvl 20 with stats 39 15 18 20 8 7 5 before promotion. Ch26: 11 turns Eliwood promotes mid-chapter at lvl 20 with stats 34 16 14 13 17 11 7 before promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 Done. BartreXKarla A HectorXLyn A EliwoodXNinian A also, 225 turns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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