Helios Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Lol that's what I meant. My bad. But the point is it confirms that he is the town tracker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 So uh, what now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Well I'm assuming we don't want to make some huge plan like we did N1 only for the mafia to ruin it right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I mean, we could maybe talk about who we think would be a good lynch target, but that's only so helpful until we see how the night action plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 It's probably not the smartest idea to do, really. We can't afford something like that to happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Exactly. All we know for sure right now is that there's a high possibility Kay will be targeted by the Mafia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Honestly, if everyone's night actions are in, I don't see much point in continuing the night phase. We're not really talking, and any talk we do have after this will probably serve to help the mafia more than it helps us. Does anyone else see it this way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I haven't sent my night action yet. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Honestly, if everyone's night actions are in, I don't see much point in continuing the night phase. We're not really talking, and any talk we do have after this will probably serve to help the mafia more than it helps us. Does anyone else see it this way? in other words, get your night actions in asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 So. If there is a mafia redirector, then there's no chance of a town bus driver, is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Why would you say that? There were two cops. Seems quite possible to me there's a town bus driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 Number of night actions in: Way too little to end the phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I will try my best to explain the most logical N1 if I screw up with tags please forgive me I agree Bal. The Blitz/Marth debacle is really bothering me too, because it's kind of the last missing piece to the puzzle. Excellen, as strange as his whole situation is, doesn't really worry me all that much either relative to 13th and Blitz/Marth fiasco. However, what we can do is lynch 13th, get the cop deal cleared up, and have Kay investigate either Blitz or Marth. Then work from there. What do you think? And it seems that everyone loves to target Bizz in general. Last game she was targeted by 7 people on the first phase IIRC. Kay, just in case, can you confirm that you targeted Bal N1 and found out he was the Town Tracker? It's not that I don't believe Bal, just nice for confirmation. I still think either Blitz or Marth is lying about something, but I'm not sure who just yet. I don't see Manix as scummy tbh, but then again he hasn't really stuck out this game. What I'm wondering is wth happened to Impy? She just kinda...disappeared. If it's IRL issues I hope everything is alright with her, but until now I honestly forgot she was even in the game. She hasn't made much of a presence in the game, and I'm not really sure what to think of that. Marth is most likely telling the truth about being the martyr see the mafia didn't shoot Bal because the knew they can't kill him if Marth is on him and their role blocker was most likely on the oracle so, their best option would be to redirect my role on to a mafia member I really don't know how a bus driver works, so I am not sure if it the work of a bus driver or a simple redirector who moves my role into someone they want to I don't know how they decided to pick Manix, but it makes me sorta suspicious of or it could be that, our targets are switched and I target Manix where as someone else targets Marth so, is there anyone here who targeted Manix and her/his action didn't fail? Just pointing it out, the way Helios keeps suggesting that I target Blitz or Marth, it kinda looks like he could be mafia trying to direct me away from other targets. Not really a big deal, and I still think he's townish, just thought it was something to keep in mind. I would prefer if you went after one of Impy or Scorri, but you are welcome to do what I want @Helios, Darros idled N1 @Marth, if I target you, Kay can't investigate you @Balc, I thought you were a watcher + tracker also, please notify me if I missed anything @everyone, what do you think I should do with my role? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I was hoping someone would suggest something but I will be idling since no one is here to suggest anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 More people should roleclaim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I was hoping someone would suggest something but I will be idling since no one is here to suggest anything Don't idle, Blitz, that's ridiculous. Target zak so he doesn't get roleblocked or something if you have nothing better to do. I don't know. I hesitate to give anyone exact orders because it's just asking for the mafia to mess with them, but your role is too useful to do nothing with. It also makes it look like you don't want your claim to be tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 If your target got switched from Marth to Manix, that would be a lot of luck for the Mafia to have Bal's action fail. I have a feeling it was more like Bal's target was redirected to Marth, who you safeguarded, more than anything. But you do ask a good question, did anyone else target Manix N1? I didn't, so I guess I can't really help in that regard. Ahh I see. That's what I thought. Interesting. Well if we told you what to do with it, Mafia could act to stop you anyway. They still have a roleblocker (at least we believe so) roaming around after all. I suggest you don't idle though, even I can think of a few targets worthy of being safeguarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 like I said, I don't like this role and I find it more bad then good for instance if I hit someone being protected by the BG, I will only screw it over for the town likewise, if I hit someone Kay inspects, I will screw town as well and not to mention I can be redirected judging from what happened N1 which could be worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 If all else fails then, safeguard Shinori/Iris. They were a one shot vig and used their shot, therefore they're just regular old townies now. In case there's like a poisoner or something, I guess you could safeguard them. At least it's better than idling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 If all else fails then, safeguard Shinori/Iris. They were a one shot vig and used their shot, therefore they're just regular old townies now. In case there's like a poisoner or something, I guess you could safeguard them. At least it's better than idling. Nyeh? I would put doubts on the mafia targeting them with a non-killing ability. Being a vanilla townie isn't exactly a threat to the mafia anyway. They get a vote, and that's about it. Unless you want to chance that fact that they may have lied about the one-shot, in which case, consider it. iunno, it probably isn't the best use of the safeguard. but I've been wrong before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 fine fine but I am still against the idea and don't blame me if someone's action failed because of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 I AM MISSING THREE ACTIONS. GET THEM IN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Oh shit I still haven't sent my action yet. And I'm still not sure of my target. :| So guys, one thing I noticed was that Manix thought I was secretly vig, and Shinori claimed that he was a vig with a one-shot. Vig with a one shot seems too weird as a role without any other side action or something, so why do I feel we're being thrown off course here? Also why did Manix think I was the vig anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Nyeh? I would put doubts on the mafia targeting them with a non-killing ability. Being a vanilla townie isn't exactly a threat to the mafia anyway. They get a vote, and that's about it. Unless you want to chance that fact that they may have lied about the one-shot, in which case, consider it. iunno, it probably isn't the best use of the safeguard. but I've been wrong before. safe guards don't protect against kills, just all other stuff and that means if the person I protect is hit, s/he will die for sure and we won't even gain info on who killed the person if we have a watcher that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Oh shit I still haven't sent my action yet. And I'm still not sure of my target. :| So guys, one thing I noticed was that Manix thought I was secretly vig, and Shinori claimed that he was a vig with a one-shot. Vig with a one shot seems too weird as a role without any other side action or something, so why do I feel we're being thrown off course here? Also why did Manix think I was the vig anyway? he could have a secondary role, but I think he is telling the truth about having that kill on Aere and it being a 1 shot thing mainly because we have seen too many kills already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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