nano Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) A comparison of their bases between PoR and RD. Laguz are omitted because they are all over the place. Unit | LV| HP|STR|MAG|SKL|SPD|LCK|DEF|RES|MOV|CON|WGT Astrid | 21| 13| 7| 6| 10| 8| 14| 5| 10| 1| 0| 2 Bastian | 17| 10| 9| 16| 6| 8| 6| 8| 12| 0| 0| 0 Boyd | 26| 15| 15| 1| 16| 12| 9| 10| 8| 1| 2| 3 Brom | 14| 8| 9| 3| 8| 9| 9| 8| 7| 1| -2| 4 Calill | 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0 Devdan | 5| 3| 3| 1| 8| 8| 2| 4| 2| 0| 0| 2 Elincia | 20| 9| 10| 5| 5| 4| 14| 7| 9| 0| 0| 0 Gatrie | 21| 13| 13| 5| 12| 15| 10| 10| 11| 1| 1| 7 Geoffrey| 4| -6| 6| -1| 6| 1| 7| -3| 6| 0| 0| 1 Haar | 0| -1| 2| -6| 5| 3| 1| 3| -3| 0| -1| 0 Ike | 30| 25| 19| 1| 22| 16| 8| 16| 7| 1| 3| 4 Ilyana | 6| 2| 5| 4| 2| 4| 0| 0| -1| 0| 0| 0 Jill | 6| 0| 0| 1| 2| 6| 8| 2| 1| 0| 0| 1 Kieran | 19| 11| 10| 5| 10| 8| 8| 8| 10| 1| 1| 3 Lucia | 2| 2| 3| -2| 6| 4| 3| 4| 7| 0| 0| 0 Makalov | 17| 7| 9| 3| 10| 8| 12| 7| 7| 1| 0| 2 Marcia | 20| 14| 8| 6| 10| 9| 8| 8| 9| 1| 1| 1 Mia | 21| 13| 10| 5| 16| 15| 12| 6| 6| 1| 1| 1 Mist | 20| 12| 7| 9| 9| 8| 10| 5| 9| 2| 0| 0 Neph | 14| 10| 7| 4| 9| 9| 6| 6| 11| 1| -1| 2 Oscar | 29| 12| 14| 6| 16| 14| 13| 9| 13| 1| 1| 3 Rhys | 19| 5| 8| 13| 8| 9| 13| 7| 10| 1| 1| 1 Rolf | 20| 14| 12| 3| 12| 13| 9| 7| 7| 1| 2| 3 Shinon | 12| 11| 12| 1| 13| 11| 6| 11| 8| 0| 1| 1 Soren | 24| 10| 9| 17| 13| 10| 6| 7| 14| 1| 0| 0 Sothe | 20| 15| 13| 3| 13| 9| 10| 10| 9| 0| 2| 2 Stefan | 20| 15| 8| -1| 10| 11| 15| 9| 7| 0| 0| 0 Tanith | 6| 3| 4| 0| 3| -1| 4| 4| 7| 0| 0| -1 Tauroneo| 0|-10| 2| 1| 4| 7| 4| -1| 1| 0| 1| 6 Titania | 15| 3| 13| 6| 9| 7| 8| 9| 7| 0| 0| 2 Tormod | 18| 14| 11| 7| 7| 11| 6| 8| 5| 1| 1| 1 Volke | 43| 27| 18| 5| 23| 22| 12| 19| 19| 0| 0| 0 Zihark | 13| 5| 7| 5| 9| 8| 5| 6| 11| 1| 2| 1 Thanks to Naglfar and Camtech for fixing up the table. Man I spent way more time getting these numbers to align than actually calculating them (which only took 10 minutes). All of my spaces seem to either count for half a square or a full square, depending on which will screw over my positioning. :/ Notable features: Geoffrey, Tanith and Jill all gained miniscure levels despite their significant involvement in the war being hinted at. Geoffrey had Paragon to boot. Shinon has amazing growths as we all know. Lucia and Tauroneo managed to get their hands on a ton of boosters because lol power abuse. Volke gained the most levels. Thank god no one went backwards. Quick someone volunteer to fix the numbers. Edited July 2, 2012 by nano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Rolf and Mist are still mediocre. Boyd and Oscar shoulda been at 20/18 for fe10 IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nano Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Titania, Jill and Marcia should be 20/20, or 20/20/1 assuming they got an extra level or found a crown after the war. And Rhys should have been benched. Edited June 28, 2012 by nano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 XS I think levels are good as they are. Maybe having Fiona at higher level and far better bases, as well as Meg. I don't know, maybe Meg Lv. 8, and Fiona Lv. 16 or so. I would have liked using Pelleas in 1-E and Daein's P3. LEA playable in Greil's P3 and choose if Ilyana goes to GMs or stays with the Daein Liberators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) I think levels are good as they are. Maybe having Fiona at higher level and far better bases, as well as Meg. I don't know, maybe Meg Lv. 8, and Fiona Lv. 16 or so.I would have liked using Pelleas in 1-E and Daein's P3. LEA playable in Greil's P3 and choose if Ilyana goes to GMs or stays with the Daein Liberators. This thread is about comparing the PoR base stats with the RD ones. Anyway, how come Renning isn't on the list (since Bertram and Renning are the same person, I don't see why you can't compare Bertram's HM stats with Renning's base stats in RD)? Edited June 28, 2012 by NinjaMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciarre Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Why did old Tauroneo get such a big boost but young and powerful Jill got almost nothing? Come on... Unit that can roflstomp the game -> lol you go back to base stats Unit that joins wtflate and sucks -> OH HI YOU GET A WTF BUFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Unit that can roflstomp the game -> lol you go back to base statsUnit that joins wtflate and sucks -> OH HI YOU GET A WTF BUFF It seems to me that you've answered your own question there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akagami Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Haar has -6 in SKL, but actually it is a +6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arondight Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 You forgot Calill, though not very spectacular: 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nano Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 Anyway, how come Renning isn't on the list (since Bertram and Renning are the same person, I don't see why you can't compare Bertram's HM stats with Renning's base stats in RD)? Haha I didn't think of them, There is Sephiran and BK too. Well they are kinda static in terms of development anyway, so their level and stat increases don't actually mean much. Haar has -6 in SKL, but actually it is a +6. Oops. I did these in Excel and had to manually change some the signs. Must have let this one slip through. You forgot Calill, though not very spectacular: 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0. I'm pretty sure I did Calill at some point... Oh well, apparently all she did during the war was getting some self-defense training from Largo. And threw away all the knives in the house after adopting Amy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 three words plain text editor Unit | LV| HP|STR|MAG|SKL|SPD|LCK|DEF|RES|MOV|CON|WGT Astrid | 21| 13| 7| 6| 10| 8| 14| 5| 10| 1| 0| 2 Bastian | 17| 10| 9| 16| 6| 8| 6| 8| 12| 0| 0| 0 Boyd | 26| 15| 15| 1| 16| 12| 9| 10| 8| 1| 2| 3 Brom | 14| 8| 9| 3| 8| 9| 9| 8| 7| 1| -2| 4 Devdan | 5| 3| 3| 1| 8| 8| 2| 4| 2| 0| 0| 2 Elincia | 20| 9| 10| 5| 5| 4| 14| 7| 9| 0| 0| 0 Gatrie | 21| 13| 13| 5| 12| 15| 10| 10| 11| 1| 1| 7 Geoffrey| 4| -6| 6| -1| 6| 1| 7| -3| 6| 0| 0| 1 Haar | 0| -1| 2| -6| 5| 3| 1| 3| -3| 0| -1| 0 Ike | 30| 25| 19| 1| 22| 16| 8| 16| 7| 1| 3| 4 Ilyana | 6| 2| 5| 4| 2| 4| 0| 0| -1| 0| 0| 0 Jill | 6| 0| 0| 1| 2| 6| 8| 2| 1| 0| 0| 1 Kieran | 19| 11| 10| 5| 10| 8| 8| 8| 10| 1| 1| 3 Lucia | 2| 2| 3| -2| 6| 4| 3| 4| 7| 0| 0| 0 Makalov | 17| 7| 9| 3| 10| 8| 12| 7| 7| 1| 0| 2 Marcia | 20| 14| 8| 6| 10| 9| 8| 8| 9| 1| 1| 1 Mia | 21| 13| 10| 5| 16| 15| 12| 6| 6| 1| 1| 1 Mist | 20| 12| 7| 9| 9| 8| 10| 5| 9| 2| 0| 0 Neph | 14| 10| 7| 4| 9| 9| 6| 6| 11| 1| -1| 2 Oscar | 29| 12| 14| 6| 16| 14| 13| 9| 13| 1| 1| 3 Rhys | 19| 5| 8| 13| 8| 9| 13| 7| 10| 1| 1| 1 Rolf | 20| 14| 12| 3| 12| 13| 9| 7| 7| 1| 2| 3 Shinon | 12| 11| 12| 1| 13| 11| 6| 11| 8| 0| 1| 1 Soren | 24| 10| 9| 17| 13| 10| 6| 7| 14| 1| 0| 0 Sothe | 20| 15| 13| 3| 13| 9| 10| 10| 9| 0| 2| 2 Stefan | 20| 15| 8| -1| 10| 11| 15| 9| 7| 0| 0| 0 Tanith | 6| 3| 4| 0| 3| -1| 4| 4| 7| 0| 0| -1 Tauroneo| 0|-10| 2| 1| 4| 7| 4| -1| 1| 0| 1| 6 Titania | 15| 3| 13| 6| 9| 7| 8| 9| 7| 0| 0| 2 Tormod | 18| 14| 11| 7| 7| 11| 6| 8| 5| 1| 1| 1 Volke | 43| 27| 18| 5| 23| 22| 12| 19| 19| 0| 0| 0 Zihark | 13| 5| 7| 5| 9| 8| 5| 6| 11| 1| 2| 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nano Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 Awesome. Tormod gained 1 con 1 wgt compared to 2/2 for Sothe and 3/4 for Ike. Poor Tormod. Still, it's better than Soren's 0/0. Maybe branded grow slower? Ilyana is also 0/0, she really needs to get those stomach worms checked before it gets even more serious. Ike also gained the most con out of everyone, proving once and for all that roids are overpowered. Tanith went on a diet and became the only character to lose weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciarre Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Soren actually got -1/-1, since he starts as a sage in RD and he should've gotten +1/+1 on promotion. And Nephenee lost 2. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) Quick someone volunteer to fix the numbers. lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Mov Con Wgt Astrid 21 13 7 6 10 8 14 5 10 1 0 2 Bastian 17 10 9 16 6 8 6 8 12 0 0 0 Boyd 26 15 15 1 16 12 9 10 8 1 2 3 Brom 14 8 9 3 8 9 9 8 7 1 -2 4 Devdan 5 3 3 1 8 8 2 4 2 0 0 2 Elincia 20 9 10 5 5 4 14 7 9 0 0 0 Gatrie 21 13 13 5 12 15 10 10 11 1 1 7 Geoffrey 4 -6 6 -1 6 1 7 -3 6 0 0 1 Haar 0 -1 2 -6 5 3 1 3 -3 0 -1 0 Ike 30 25 19 1 22 16 8 16 7 1 3 4 Ilyana 6 2 5 4 2 4 0 0 -1 0 0 0 Jill 6 0 0 1 2 6 8 2 1 0 0 1 Kieran 19 11 10 5 10 8 8 8 10 1 1 3 Lucia 2 2 3 -2 6 4 3 4 7 0 0 0 Makalov 17 7 9 3 10 8 12 7 7 1 0 2 Marcia 20 14 8 6 10 9 8 8 9 1 1 1 Mia 21 13 10 5 16 15 12 6 6 1 1 1 Mist 20 12 7 9 9 8 10 5 9 2 0 0 Neph 14 10 7 4 9 9 6 6 11 1 -1 2 Oscar 29 12 14 6 16 14 13 9 13 1 1 3 Rhys 19 5 8 13 8 9 13 7 10 1 1 1 Rolf 20 14 12 3 12 13 9 7 7 1 2 3 Shinon 12 11 12 1 13 11 6 11 8 0 1 1 Soren 24 10 9 17 13 10 6 7 14 1 0 0 Sothe 20 15 13 3 13 9 10 10 9 0 2 2 Stefan 20 15 8 -1 10 11 15 9 7 0 0 0 Tanith 6 3 4 0 3 -1 4 4 7 0 0 -1 Tauroneo 0 -10 2 1 4 7 4 -1 1 0 1 6 Titania 15 3 13 6 9 7 8 9 7 0 0 2 Tormod 18 14 11 7 7 11 6 8 5 1 1 1 Volke 43 27 18 5 23 22 12 19 19 0 0 0 Zihark 13 5 7 5 9 8 5 6 11 1 2 1 sigh EDIT oh wait someone already did it damn Edited July 1, 2012 by Camtech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momentai~ Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) Interesting... I'd like to see one of these comparing characters to their PoR counterparts at the same level (for those that aren't at the same level that they were in PoR of course) e.g. Ike at level 20/11 in PoR has 45 hp, 23 str, 9 mag, 23 skill, 25 speed, 16 luck, 20 def, and 14 res (greater than or equal to .5 rounded up) Ike at level --/11 in RD has 44 hp, 22 str, 2 mag, 28 skill, 23 speed, 14 luck, 21 def, and 7 res -1 hp, -1 str, - 7 mag, +5 skill, -2 speed, -2 luck, +1 def, -7 res Astrid at 20/2 in PoR has 34 hp, 16 str, 8 mag, 19 skill, 18 speed, 11 luck, 14 def, and 11 res Astrid at --/2 in RD has 33 hp, 13 str, 8 mag, 16 skill, 15 speed, 17 luck, 10 def, and 14 res. -1 hp, -3 str, 0 mag, -3 skill, -3 speed, +6 luck, -4 def, +3 res Well, we don't know what level their RD counterparts promoted at, but still, it'd be nice to compare to where they "should" be Why did Tauroneo lose 10 hp? Ah well, it's not like he's really in danger of dying at any time in part 1. Edited July 2, 2012 by Momentai~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nano Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 I think PoR and RD have different promotion bonuses for some classes, which is why I didn't bother with them. Tauro's HP is actually kinda relevant. If he had 10 more HP he probably could march down the cliff with a crown and pass in 3-12 much more easily. Instead he has to kinda tiptoe around some enemies so he doesn't get ganged up and die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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