Balcerzak Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Psych doesn't target. Please reread his role. Queen doesn't care if Psych targets, read his role. During the day, you may send Paperblade and Kay a PM entitled "Day X - Sending ALIAS1 to Room 101." In this PM, include a different alias, ALIAS2. You will torture ALIAS1 all day, forcing them to target ALIAS2 with their night action. This will not redirect kills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I think the problem is that Psych's role can't target hence can't be redirected I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I think the problem is that Psych's role can't target hence can't be redirected I think? That's what I'm guessing. I mean, he doesn't visit. soo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 hmm, maybe. Interpretation is such a tricky thing sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Bal, shouldn't you know the answer to this? You did cohost CPM after all Did the QA count as a visit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Just because it's a nonvisiting role doesn't mean it can't be made to visit. My biggest regret from D1 is that we can no longer have Sion tap Ciel after she lightningrods. oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god Is that a reaction to the prospect of c/ping the player list and sending it to Kay with trollish flavour text, or the prospect of Sion "tapping" Ciel(just caught my own wording there) Sending Kay the whole player list and saying "Have fun" Example in question, us cohosts lamenting the fact that Forensic Investigator couldn't be used on Lightningrod, which said that "everybody performing an action that night will view an engagement with you as of the utmost importance, and they will all converge on your location, choosing you as their target." Kohaku/Hisui, while not ordinarily a targeting role, if they chose to submit a night action other than IDLE, would have showed up on a visit report to Ciel's on the night she chose to Lightningrod, in my interpretation. I guess I may have had to argue with Ether about it if it had happened, but... I might just be stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I'd say ask Paper for a ruling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 hmmmm okay so what you're saying is that a redirector could force someone to visit (but not actually do anything to that person)? I think I follow what you're trying to say. so confusing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Heard this argument before. Okay, so bolded point one mentions jointing. Bolded point two tells me to MAFIA HUNT. Basically she is claiming scum third party. She specifically said that I need to mafiahunt, not scum hunt, she corrected herself. Either she knows of a third party, or she is one. Make a note of this, handle it tonight or today. One way or the other she needs gone. And how do we know she didn't do the second kill on Night 2? I obviously missed that part. I'll re read snike again, but all i know is I kept reading town on him. I'll check it again. No, dude, I'm telling you whether there is a third party or not, you shouldn't be tunneling on me and freaking out about third parties instead of discussing anything else. Where the heck are you getting "claiming scum third party" from that? SK etc can be considered "scum", so telling you to scumhunt would be silly since you sort of were in a way, so I wanted to be more specific. You don't know that. You have no particular reason to think I did, either. Because Aere was a wagon to consolidate on. Right. And Prims was? God damn it I was typing and hit f5. I think prims could be roleblocker from kamen rider mafia. Someone's lying about it and i know there was a RB in that game. I still want to know about the two kills each night. I don't think anyone has claimed the second kill on night 2 right? If I missed that then derp. What's to have stopped Kay from have being the person to do the second kill that night though? Why would anyone pick a plain roleblocker when there are so many more interesting things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 And Prims was? How is this relevant to why my switching votes from you to Aere was "scummy"? I don't really understand this remark, in other words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 No, dude, I'm telling you whether there is a third party or not, you shouldn't be tunneling on me and freaking out about third parties instead of discussing anything else. Where the heck are you getting "claiming scum third party" from that? SK etc can be considered "scum", so telling you to scumhunt would be silly since you sort of were in a way, so I wanted to be more specific. You don't know that. You have no particular reason to think I did, either. And Prims was? Why would anyone pick a plain roleblocker when there are so many more interesting things? Willing to bet you're a third party and you probably were the second kill or something. Either way I think you should be lynched or vig shot tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Does anyone mind updating me on recent developments here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Ok, as far as I can tell, we're looking for the source of the second mafia kill. That was probably Rocker, on every night except Night 1. When they must have used another way to kill, like a 1 shot nightvig (so there would be 1 kill tonight). Scorri fits that bill pretty well, but there's the complication of her "selling out" BBM. But if you plan to throw away your night action every single night, and you have BBM fire off his masshook on N1... then why keep him around when you can sell him out for Town Credibility Points? So I think it's worth considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 "You came to this school with a Gatito pin. During any night, you may respond to your role PM with "Night X - Imprint <PLAYER1> to kill <PLAYER2>". <PLAYER1> will forfeit her night action and kill <PLAYER2> instead. Due to the fact that you're not the best at mind control, all other mafia roles, including your normal one, must idle." I assume normal one means normal kill, so I doubt that's what it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 When is the night up? And, is the tailoring perma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 Whenever I get all actions in No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Yeah, that gaito pin can only be used without other mafia actions. Also, I only have one shot. So, I'm really not the source of two other kills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Cam probably isn't an extra scumkill given that he didn't openly suspect any scums at the time of his death and hadn't claimed anything. It's more likely the result of an unclaimed SK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Inb4 the person who told me to MAFIAHUNT is an SK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 "You came to this school with a Gatito pin. During any night, you may respond to your role PM with "Night X - Imprint <PLAYER1> to kill <PLAYER2>". <PLAYER1> will forfeit her night action and kill <PLAYER2> instead. Due to the fact that you're not the best at mind control, all other mafia roles, including your normal one, must idle." I assume normal one means normal kill, so I doubt that's what it was. It says "your normal one", meaning Shiki's normal role. By which, I take it to mean that it doesn't include a kill ability, especially since roles with unlimited killing ability aren't really that common anyway, and I imagine the mafia killing ability would be tied to the mafia rather than an individual's role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Manix and I were both mafia in that game and we can tell you (as we have said multiple times in thread) that that role replaces your mafia kill and doesn't work as an extra one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I told you guys I wasn't gonna be around last night ;/. But hey Tigers are up 2-0 in the series now! To whom it may concern: Dear kirsche,You are a town role that lost and was not modkilled. You are third to draft. You are allied with the Cereal Killers. You win if the Cereal Killers eliminates all threats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Manix and I were both mafia in that game and we can tell you (as we have said multiple times in thread) that that role replaces your mafia kill and doesn't work as an extra one. Yep, this is how it works And don't tell me that that's not how it works; Paper checked Schoolgirl and as such must have known about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 How is this relevant to why my switching votes from you to Aere was "scummy"? I don't really understand this remark, in other words. Never mind, I misunderstood your post. Inb4 the person who told me to MAFIAHUNT is an SK. Because you're tunneling like crazy and making no apparent attempt to care about anything else. Looks like scum wanting to seem helpful without giving away their buddies to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 The few people who have not sent in actions should do so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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