Prims Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Keep in mind that this game has night talk, so yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I thought your slot was scummier. Then BBM/You both claimed Lute. Then losing-his-cool BBM lost his cool, so I thought he was scummier. Then he flipped scum, and suspicions on you kinda died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Right. So. Thank you. At the start of D2, most people believed that I was the scummier out of our two slots. True? So, between BBM and me, it was more likely that if we had both come in, claimed Sacred Stones as our game, I would have been more likely to have been lynched due to more people suspecting me. If I had been killed first (which would probably have been BBM's assumption when he cc'd me) it would have been shown that I was telling the truth about my game (regardless of my alignment) which would have then gotten BBM lynched. Why would a scum!BBM cc a scum!me for my game when it was more likely that I would be lynched first? Keep in mind his role (lynch doctor) was still able to be used and quite probably much more useful than a JoAT for mafia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 why? To attempt to clear you more? I dunno. What's scumchat say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I was going to say something about Elie being clear, but then I realized that tailor is still a possibility and could be faking alignment/role from Bal's scan => Possible faked result on Helios => fuck this shit too many possibilities (Bal could be faking, Elie could have been tailored, Helios could have been tailored) This came up because I was worried about the amount of tunneling Elie is doing on scorri right now (and was originally going to say it's only a concern, until I thought of the above) something isn't right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 !Warning! I think I'm transitioning into my paranoid!townie mode take any speculation I say from this point forward with a grain of salt !EndWarning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I was going to say something about Elie being clear, but then I realized that tailor is still a possibility and could be faking alignment/role from Bal's scan => Possible faked result on Helios => fuck this shit too many possibilities (Bal could be faking, Elie could have been tailored, Helios could have been tailored) This came up because I was worried about the amount of tunneling Elie is doing on scorri right now (and was originally going to say it's only a concern, until I thought of the above) something isn't right Now I see how ridiculous I look when I get on crackpot theory mode. I'm just theorizing under the assumption that what scorri said was true, but I haven't even voted her, I'm just looking for a slip. Hence, the same motivation is behind my current tunneling that was behind me recently asking Rocker to out his N1 results. Had he said "I targetted Strider, and saw X visit him", well then we'd know something was most certainly up, especially since he subbed in, and could have possibly overlooked the Masshook thing (Something along the lines of what Prims did to scorri not long after she subbed in) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 and then hence my paranoid!townie comment above you remember CPM where I thought the stupidbroken!QA might have been scum? Yeah. I'm being like that again. eh, I dunno, I'm not quite feeling the scorri case, barring extreme hypotheticals like I used in that previous post I don't think it's worth dealing with scorri until D4 because of ~reasons~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Elie: You continue to miss my point. If you had been faced with BBM claiming the same mafia as me, and only your knowledge from D1, not Prims leading the lynch on BBM, who would you have voted for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Probably SB, unless BBM lost his cool at something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 well you/sb. You know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Ok. Logically, everyone else would have done that too unless BBM lost his cool which he probably wouldn't have done if I had started getting votes, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I thought your slot was scummier. Then BBM/You both claimed Lute. Then losing-his-cool BBM lost his cool, so I thought he was scummier. Then he flipped scum, and suspicions on you kinda died. I already mentioned this. And I guess you're right. I'm trying to think of something though, and though I'm not surprised you're trying to defend yourself, at least it's engaging discussion to weed out things that are unlikely possibilities. It's better than sitting here with my notepad, contemplating by myself, when I'm probably overlooking something really obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 All I'm trying to say is that either BBM and scum!me assumed that someone would lead the lynch against him instead of me and that we'd sack the more useful role (lynch doc is *useful*) or it doesn't make much sense for me to be scum since if I, who was the more suspicious at the start of the phase, was lynched before him it'd be seen that he was lying. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Well, there goes my idea that everyone was possibly telling the truth about their roleclaims, yarg. Gah, now I need to try to figure out who's roles are provable. TO MICROSOFT EXCEL! Actually, I don't need to really do that. Sadly, only Anouleth is provable, as he's fired at faces twice. Others are situationally provable. The only ones that aren't really provable are Prims x Rocker, as passive/resultless accordingly (well, from my end anyway). Too many possibilities! Too many theories to crackpot over! ONE OF THEM MUST BE RIGHT, BUT WHICH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 What time does phase end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 Saturday at 5pm pdt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Notice this: Scorri is continuing to act at least as townish now that she looks much less suspicious. She hasn't really done anything scummy, IMO, just her predecessor. It makes perfect sense for her to not claim all her actions. I'd say there are better people to go after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I'm trying to piece together a plan for something tonight (and wheeee I'm probably going to die) the problem lies in the possible scum!hook which annoys the crap out of me hmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Bets on if it'll be me or Elie that'll be hooked? I've got 60:40 odds going for Elie being hooked tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr the requirement for the plan that I have (since there's no safeguard (seriously guys you suck)) I want to wait until the night to out it (might get a RB lynch which would make me feel better about outing the plan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Ok, so we have around 29 hours left in the phase. Are we going to talk any more, or should we just end phase already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 (by which I mean hammer someone already) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 15 pages in. If you would like me to post any of my reads so far, i can. (I'm logging off after this and won't be returning until tomorrow though.) Well, there is this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Blahhhhhh. I'm booooooooooored. ( >_> ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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