BBM Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 How is Helios likely to be SK after a Godfather flip that further confirms the existence of an Alignment Cop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Whoops I meant to comment on that. So basically we are looking at those three? I don't remember if Rein was clear, but I guess Bitto is the lynch tomorrow depending on night stuff. Also Eclipse needs to full claim first thing in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 eclipse claimed responsibility for a kill and the only way she could be lying is if the SK killed Prims who was targeted by Manix, causing them both to die, and the mafia killed SEG. However that would raise the question of why the mafia killed SEG I am 99% sure Llen was making shit up to try to get me lynched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I actually have some crazy thought that kay might be SK that appears as town or something on inspect. But i don't know. Probably not. just wierd feelings about some of the stuff she said earlier in the day phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 eclipse claimed responsibility for a kill and the only way she could be lying is if the SK killed Prims who was targeted by Manix, causing them both to die, and the mafia killed SEG. However that would raise the question of why the mafia killed SEG I am 99% sure Llen was making shit up to try to get me lynched There is an sk in this game most likely because of mafia win con. But besides that I don't think eclipse did any sort of kill. I seriously think manix used his friendly neighbor thing on prims and then prims died to sk and seg died to mafia. But idk. It's all speculation and that seems pretty much worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 eclipse claimed the kill on SEG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Well that pretty much proves Kay is innocent then unless multiple godfathers just to mess with me. Excellen trying to push the Paper lynch makes me feel even moreso that Paper is town. Kay please target me tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Also I could definitely see SEG as a "safe kill" for mafia since no one even thought of targeting her. In fact that's what I had originally assumed until eclipse claimed the kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Eclipse is either a Joat or the SK. I was the day vig, so she's definately not that. If we have more than one kill tonight, then yeah, I say we lynch her. Though, if we get lucky with a save, I;m still not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 that doesn't make sense there were still 3 deaths last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 From reading Prims' PM, I'm getting the feeling that the Strongman kill could be used with the normal mafia kill. That accounts for the two mafia kills if eclipse is SK and killed Prims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 can a host confirm how the dead roles work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 3 deaths in that night. PLEASE GO READ MANIX's ROLE. If he used his ability on prims and prims died it causes manix to die. THERE DIDNT HAVE TO BE THREE INDIVIDUAL KILLING ABILITIES. If your neighbor dies and they are revealed to be an alignment other than Town, you will feel betrayed and commit suicide. If you still want to say that eclipse definitely killed something then she is probably mafia cause sk most likely killed prims and manix died because of that cause of Friendly neighbor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Not to go by flavor but. Manix was found not too far from him, a single lone musician with a gunshot wound to her head: Near prims dead body and suicide shot to the head. SeG wasn't found 'near' them either. I mean whatever. It's flavor but it still adds to my actual case of how manix died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Frankly SK had to kill prims. which means mafia killed SeG, unless a doc ability was succesfully used and stopped a kill, in which case eclipse's kill would be viable. HOWEVER I HIGHLY FUCKING DOUBT THAT WE HAD A VIG SK MAFIA AND ANOTHER KILLING ROLE IN THIS GAME ALONG WITH SOMEONE THAT COULD SUICIDE INTO THEIR OWN DEATH. Pretty sure eclipse is scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Also notice how she only pushed paper, kay and bitto basically yesterday for the main part. She didn't even vote or touch on the excellen case once all phase. Lynch eclipse next day phase please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Whyyyyy would you say all these things during night phase, and especially so early? If I was mafia, I might have been considering killing Eclipse because of the thing where she prolongs the game, and how the kill was her "weakest" role. I certainly wouldn't kill her now (if I was mafia). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Whyyyyy would you say all these things during night phase, and especially so early? If I was mafia, I might have been considering killing Eclipse because of the thing where she prolongs the game, and how the kill was her "weakest" role. I certainly wouldn't kill her now (if I was mafia). So then if she's town she gets to live for a night phase and she can prove whatever role she has tonight. But I'm sorry i misread she did vote excellen at one point in time but it was basically in passing. It was also a generally weak vote. Whatever I'll do some more thinking, I just don't like it, she didn't touch on excellen that much, she says she claimed the kill on SEG even though that was most likely the mafia kill. Also what's to say she isn't a scum JoaT? I just don't believe it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Well If eclipse is town then now, like you said, she'll live till tomorrow, and this allows someone else to be protected If she's scum, then she wouldn't have died anyway and we get her to claim and we lynch her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I want someone to actually explain to me as to why Eclipse is town and not scum. When more evidence actually shows that she is more likely to be scum than town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Hey, SK do me a favor. Kill eclipse. I love you long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 If she's scum, then she wouldn't have died anyway and we get her to claim and we lynch her Not necessarily, if there's both mafia and SK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Not necessarily, if there's both mafia and SK. Hey. Kill Eclipse please 2 shot commuter and sk. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 If I was mafia, I might have been considering killing Eclipse because of the thing where she prolongs the game, and how the kill was her "weakest" role. I certainly wouldn't kill her now (if I was mafia). Stuff like this doesn't help your case. You could quite possibly be scum as well since people noted on that and stuff with like prims hard defending you and things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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