Emerald Ink Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 @Emerald Ink: Glad you got through it, though also remember you can pair Frederick and Kellam for 20+ Def on Frederick, letting him easily survive tons of attacks. Might be useful in the future. Also, sometimes it's easier going up the right side, after recruiting Kellam, since Frederick can severely damage more stuff with the Silver Lance there. It should not require any lucky Crits/Dual Strikes/Guards, with the correct positioning. People get high level Avatars by letting them essentially solo Chapter 1 and 2, taking all that exp Frederick normally takes. This usually requires feeding Avatar kills in the Prologue. The Water trick in Interceptor's guide is one useful way, though it's not necessary (Avatar centric stuff predates the water trick. >_>). Avatar should be at least level 4 or 5 (can get up to 7 or 8) with +Def Asset to reliably beat Chapter 1 with Frederick Pair Up+Fort bonus, getting him/her enough exp to do essentially the same for Chapter 2 and so on. Yeah, like I said, I wanted to try the water trick, but I couldn't manage to get my avatar into the water without dying, since I'm +MAG not +DEF. If I'm ever crazy enough to try this again, I'll have to look something up, but though I'm obviously not above asking for help or suggestions I want to do as much of the game as I can without relying on a guide (no offense meant to Interceptor of course). I managed to make it past chapter 4 in only two attempts, so now that I have access to my dlc, I'll probably spend a decent amount of time grinding. I like having everyone's supports filled out anyway whether they're good in battle together or not, so this is as good a time as any to get started on them. Chrom is already up to B rank with Sumia and Frederick, Fred's also got a B rank with Virion, I have a C rank with Sumia and Stahl, Stahl's at B with Miriel, Miriel's at C with Lon'qu, and Sully's at C with Lon'qu and Kellam. I admit I'm kind of dreading Donny's recruitment, but by the time I attempt it I should have everyone at a decent enough level that it won't be too difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) Yeah, like I said, I wanted to try the water trick, but I couldn't manage to get my avatar into the water without dying, since I'm +MAG not +DEF. If I'm ever crazy enough to try this again, I'll have to look something up, but though I'm obviously not above asking for help or suggestions I want to do as much of the game as I can without relying on a guide (no offense meant to Interceptor of course). I managed to make it past chapter 4 in only two attempts, so now that I have access to my dlc, I'll probably spend a decent amount of time grinding. I like having everyone's supports filled out anyway whether they're good in battle together or not, so this is as good a time as any to get started on them. Chrom is already up to B rank with Sumia and Frederick, Fred's also got a B rank with Virion, I have a C rank with Sumia and Stahl, Stahl's at B with Miriel, Miriel's at C with Lon'qu, and Sully's at C with Lon'qu and Kellam. I admit I'm kind of dreading Donny's recruitment, but by the time I attempt it I should have everyone at a decent enough level that it won't be too difficult. Get them All Stats+2 and Paragon, if you have the episodes to make the no grinding runs a little more pleasant. In fact, these are a must to have on Lunatic(optional)/Lunatic+(A Must). Edited April 27, 2014 by Dark_Huntress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald Ink Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Get them All Stats+2 and Paragon, if you have the episodes to make the no grinding runs a little more pleasant. In fact, these are a must to have on Lunatic(optional)/Lunatic+(A Must). Er, sorry, but what's Paragon? The only DLCs I have are the Golden Pack and the Scramble Pack, if that's what you mean? And I've got no problem with loads of grinding, so a no-grind run is not a thing that I plan on doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke of Dozel Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Paragon is a skill throughout the series where the person who has it receives double EXP in everything they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Get them All Stats+2 and Paragon, if you have the episodes to make the no grinding runs a little more pleasant. In fact, these are a must to have on Lunatic(optional)/Lunatic+(A Must). No DLC is a "must" in this game. Everything can be cleared without it. Water trick: you're supposed to go into the water after the bottom wave is dead. Out of those, Fred usually gets the Myrms and Avatar gets the Barbs, and who gets the Mage depends on skill distribution and enemy movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) Chapter 13 and Paralogues 15 and 12 Chapter 13 Spoils -Silver Axe -Silver Bow -Longbow -Secret Book(Tharja gets this!) Difficulty: Normal Due to constraints of training, I stuck around to kill every foe in the chapter in preparation for the very difficult next chapter. This chapter only took one retry due to reinforcement Counter kill to Miccy. This chapter is meant for training for the next one. Kill every foe here as you will need it next chapter. I mean it. It's so easy that it doesn't need an explanation. No one retreated next try. Plus you can skip this entirely (Absolutely not recommended) by having your strongest character go up north making sure hardly, if not any of the foes have Counter by the boss. Turns 16 MVP Cordelia&Gregor I now buy four Noble Rapiers and use a Tiki Tear on King Marth before beginning the next map. Paralogue 15 Difficulty: Near Impossible Only way that you can finish this map is either with Vantage+Vengeance combo, Rallies, or Limitbreaker(It's not meant to be winnable through regular gameplay. Sadly.). Otherwise, this map is completely un-winnable. Just paired Chrom with King Marth and had him kill everything with Noble Rapiers to ensure it does enough damage to 0HKO as Counter enemies has to be dealt with accordingly. Noire had to get defeated as they had Pass and could not protect her. This map took two tries to do. It was another luck factoring moment. Noire would normally be unuseable in a no grind run, but with King Marth here, I can get her and to catch her up with everyone else as she is far behind. Just make sure that Counter users don't have Pavise+ as that puts this strategy straight down the tubes. Turns 24 MVP King Marth(Had to be used as it was the only way that it was manageable as Noire has already had a bad stat inheritance for not using Donnel much(Which I had to do in the DLC to get Tharja an S support with him. Tharja didn't get any experience there, only Donnel.) and needing time to catch up which Aptitude and Paragon will do this.)& Chrom Paralogue 12 Difficulty: Normal A Paralogue that you actually can do in a no grind run. It was easy. It was just only a matter of carefully treading experience to my weaker troops to get them started. Make chokepoints to keep Passers from going through and to keep Counters at bay while equipped with a bow, or disarmed. Some characters retreated here, but my weakest troops luckily survived the onslaught. I had Anna loot the lone treasure which had a Second Seal in it as the Thieves got away with the other two (The Bullion(M) and the Fortify). Sorry. No matter. I can get the 5k at the Gaffee anyway. I then have Lucina finish off the boss which he had Luna+, but he was easy enough to deal with especially when he doesn't move. I did, however, keep Noire, Morgan and Lucina at bay earning them alot of experience. Turns 19 MVP Chrom&Morgan After settling supports with Morgan, I then buy defensive tonics for Maribelle and some Str and Def tonics for Noire and get a couple Leif Blades, Elixirs, 6 Concoctions and a couple of Thunder Swords before I start the next map. Chrom LV20/10/17/6 EXP64 Final Class: Bow Knight Str 38+2 Mag Pwr 8+2 Skill 44(Capped!)+2 Speed 42+2(Capped!) Luck 46(Capped!)+2 Def 30+2 Res 16+2 Sword A Bow A Skills: Duel Attack Paragon All Stats+2 Hit+20 Bowfaire Dia LV20/12/17/2 EXP42 Final Class: Assassin HP 64/64 Str 37 Mag Pwr 28 Skill 30 Speed 37 Luck 33 Def 33 Res 13 Sword A Bow D Skills: Veteran Solidary Sol Armsthrift Paragon Maribelle LV13/12 EXP38 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 43/43 Str 6+2 Mag Pwr 19+2 Skill 17+2 Speed 15+2 Luck 15+2 Def 7+2 Res 19+4 Tome E Staff C Skills: Res+2 Paragon All Stats+2 Demoiselle Rally Res Freddie LV17 EXP21 Class: Great Knight HP 46/46 Pwr 21+2 Mag Pwr 3+2 Skill 22+2 Speed 19+2 Luck 16+2 Def 22+2 Res 7+2 Sword C(Close to B) Lance A Axe A Skills: Outdoor Battle Luna All Stats+2 Paragon Duel Guard Lissa LV20/10/7 EXP2 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 45/45 Pwr 12+2 Mag Pwr 30+2 Skill 28+2 Speed 28+2 Luck 26+2 Def 9+2 Res 24+4 Tome E Staff A Skills: Rally Res Demoiselle Paragon All Stats+2 Res+2 Gregor LV20/9 EXP68 Class: Hero HP 53/53 Pwr 29+2 Mag Pwr 5+2 Skill 33+2 Speed 23+2 Luck 19+2 Def 23+2 Res 9+2 Sword A Axe E Skills: Armsthrift Patience Sol All Stats+2 Paragon Tharja LV20/5 EXP86 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 48/48 Pwr 7+2 Mag Pwr 25+2 Skill 14+2 Speed 20+2 Luck 6+2 Def 21+2 Res 13+2 Tome B Skills: Hex Anathma Paragon All Stats+2 Vengeance DLC Micaiah LV20/11/7 EXP79 Class: Hero HP 52/52 Str 26+2 Mag Pwr 26+2 Skill 35+2 Speed 30+2 Luck 27+2 Def 20+2 Res 13+2 Sword C Axe E Skills: Sol Armsthrift Paragon All Stats+2 Patience Lucina LV17 EXP60 Class: Lord HP 58/58 Str 26(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 14+2 Skill 30(Capped!)+2 Speed 30(Capped!)+2 Luck 33+2 Def 27+2 Res 10+2 Sword C Skills: Veteran Duel Attack+ All Stats+2 Aether Paragon Noire LV15 EXP54 Class: Archer HP 35/35 Str 15+2 Mag Pwr 10+2 Skill 19+2 Speed 21+2 Luck 18+2 Def 16+2 Res 8+2 Bow C Skills: Aptitude Paragon Prescience All Stats+2 Vengeance Morgan LV14 EXP69 Class: Tactician HP 55/55 Str 26(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 19+2 Skill 24(Capped!)+2 Speed 27(Capped!)+2 Luck 30+2 Def 23+2 Res 14+2 Sword C Tome C Skills: Veteran Armsthrift Paragon Solidary Rightful King Ta dah! It's... King Marth LV30 EXP-- Final Class: Lodestar HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 55(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 37(Capped!)+2 Skill 55(Capped!)+2 Speed 52(Capped!)+2 Luck 55(Capped!)+2 Def 53(Capped!)+2 Res 49(Capped!)+2 Sword A Skills: Limitbreaker Pavise Aegis Rightful King Luna To have fun with for the Final Chapter and getting me Noire and the manuals which you cannot do if you can't get her Paragon and Aptitude, or good stat inheritance. Gold: 20,585G (Got the 5k at the Gaffee...cuz of that stupid thief and didn't feel like starting over for it.) No DLC is a "must" in this game. Everything can be cleared without it. Yes...but... Allowing me to use a couple more characters and raising them in a more challenging way evens the latter in this run. We all have our ways of playing. Just like I get any of my characters Limitbreaker when they hit their 40ish caps as I hate those puny caps so much. Which is what I'll do if a few of them get there by the end of the main game, so they at least get a couple more extra stats before the main game is over to further make it epic. :D Also, I laughed in Paralogue 15 when enemies were slapped with both Hit+10 and Hawkeye. Tells you right there that the run is hacked. Edited April 27, 2014 by Dark_Huntress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Yes...but... Allowing me to use a couple more characters and raising them in a more challenging way evens the latter in this run. We all have our ways of playing. Just like I get any of my characters Limitbreaker when they hit their 40ish caps as I hate those puny caps so much. Which is what I'll do if a few of them get there by the end of the main game, so they at least get a couple more extra stats before the main game is over to further make it epic. :D Awakening's caps are enormous compared to the series standard. In Tellius anything above 40 is very rare (possibly enemy and Laguz-only), and in all the other games 20-30 is the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) Awakening's caps are enormous compared to the series standard. In Tellius anything above 40 is very rare (possibly enemy and Laguz-only), and in all the other games 20-30 is the norm. Ha ha.... The 20's always were classical for the games that started it all. :D ----- Awakening's caps are enormous compared to the series standard. In Tellius anything above 40 is very rare (possibly enemy and Laguz-only), and in all the other games 20-30 is the norm. Ha ha.... The 20's always were classical for the games that started it all. :D ----- Chapter 14 It's only a metter of taking out Counters as much as possible. Wind magic is the key to winning here. It takes out these pesky pegs with no trouble at all. Noble Rapiers also work well though you'd better watch out for Counter foes that have Pavise+. Other than losing Maribelle from a Counter KO, the rest went well and have gathered the treasure here before killing the boss. He had Luna+ and Hawkeye, but he was so easy to kill that it didn't matter at all. Turns 6 MVP Dia&Chrom After finishing supports with Lissa+Gregor (C Support) and Noire+Tharja(B Support), I then begin to purchase some tonics and give Chrom, MU, Miccy, Tharja(To fix her flaw), Freddie, Gregor, and Lucina Luck tonics and gave Lissa a Def one. Noire, Freddie, and Maribelle were completely fed tonics as well as selling the Bullion(M) and some unneeded stuff before I begin the next map. Chrom LV20/10/17/7 EXP56 Final Class: Bow Knight Str 38+2 Mag Pwr 8+2 Skill 44(Capped!)+2 Speed 42+2(Capped!) Luck 46(Capped!)+2 Def 30+2 Res 16+2 Sword A Bow A Dia LV20/12/17/4 EXP10 Final Class: Assassin HP 66/66 Str 38 Mag Pwr 29 Skill 32 Speed 39 Luck 35 Def 34(Capped!) Res 14 Sword A Bow D(Close to C) Maribelle LV13/13 EXP60 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 43/43 Str 7+2 Mag Pwr 20+2 Skill 18+2 Speed 16+2 Luck 25+2 Def 7+2 Res 20+4 Tome E Staff C Freddie LV17 EXP87 Class: Great Knight HP 46/46 Pwr 21+2 Mag Pwr 3+2 Skill 22+2 Speed 19+2 Luck 16+2 Def 22+2 Res 7+2 Sword C(Close to B) Lance A Axe A Lissa LV20/10/8 EXP88 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 46/46 Pwr 12+2 Mag Pwr 30+2 Skill 29+2 Speed 29+2 Luck 27+2 Def 9+2 Res 25+4 Tome E Staff A Gregor LV20/9 EXP96 Class: Hero HP 53/53 Pwr 29+2 Mag Pwr 5+2 Skill 33+2 Speed 23+2 Luck 19+2 Def 23+2 Res 9+2 Sword A Axe E Tharja LV20/8 EXP0 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 51/51 Pwr 9+2 Mag Pwr 25+2 Skill 16+2 Speed 23+2 Luck 8+2 Def 22+2 Res 13+2 Tome B DLC Micaiah LV20/11/7 EXP79 Class: Hero HP 52/52 Str 26+2 Mag Pwr 26+2 Skill 35+2 Speed 30+2 Luck 27+2 Def 20+2 Res 13+2 Sword C Axe E Lucina LV20/1 EXP0 Class: Merc HP 60/60 Str 26+2 Mag Pwr 14+2 Skill 27(Capped!)+2 Speed 28(Capped!)+2 Luck 34(Capped!)+2 Def 27+2 Res 10+2 Sword C Noire LV15 EXP54 Class: Archer HP 35/35 Str 15+2 Mag Pwr 10+2 Skill 19+2 Speed 21+2 Luck 18+2 Def 16+2 Res 8+2 Bow C Morgan LV16 EXP23 Class: Tactician HP 55/55 Str 26(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 19+2 Skill 24(Capped!)+2 Speed 27(Capped!)+2 Luck 32+2 Def 24+2 Res 15+2 Sword C Tome C King Marth LV30 EXP-- Final Class: Tactician HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 55(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 37(Capped!)+2 Skill 55(Capped!)+2 Speed 52(Capped!)+2 Luck 55(Capped!)+2 Def 53(Capped!)+2 Res 49(Capped!)+2 Sword A Skills: Limitbreaker Pavise Aegis Rightful King Luna Gold: 22,219G Chapter 15 Spoils -Arcthunder -Steel Sword -Steel Lance -Master Seal Towns 1 2 3 4 1. Second Seal 2. Manual 3. Physic 4. Bullion(L) Difficulty: Easy/Normal If you are planning to get Say'ri, then make sure that her attackers do not have Luna+ and, ...or Counter. Just trained my weaker troops here as well as having Chrom and Dia and spellcasters pick off Counters even though there were only a few. Mostly, they had Luna+ which none had Hawkeye except the boss which wasn't too dangerous. I had Chrom loot the towns and had Lucina+Morgan (C Support) pick off the boss and healing Lucina after every turn which ended the battle in a few turns with no critical. Noire also changed into a Merc for Armsthrift as well as she will be getting the Sol skill soon. Micaiah turned into a sage after getting her Sword rank to B after one strike. After doing the B support with Lucina+Morgan, I now do barracks which nothing. After selling stuff and using some of the tonics that I've bought last chapter as well as using the Talisman on Dia, I then begin the next map. Turns: 12 MVP: Lucina&Morgan Chrom LV20/10/17/8 EXP54 Final Class: Bow Knight Str 39+2 Mag Pwr 8+2 Skill 44(Capped!)+2 Speed 42+2(Capped!) Luck 46(Capped!)+2 Def 30+2 Res 17+2 Sword A Bow A Dia LV20/12/17/5 EXP62 Final Class: Assassin HP 67/67 Str 38 Mag Pwr 30(Capped!) Skill 32 Speed 39 Luck 35 Def 34(Capped!) Res 16(Used a Talisman!) Sword A Bow C Maribelle LV13/16 EXP48 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 44/44 Str 7+2 Mag Pwr 22+2 Skill 20+2 Speed 17+2 Luck 28+2 Def 7+2 Res 23+4 Tome E(About two strikes and it's Rank D) Staff C(About a few uses and it's rank B) Freddie LV18 EXP91 Class: Great Knight HP 47/47 Pwr 21+2 Mag Pwr 3+2 Skill 23+2 Speed 19+2 Luck 16+2 Def 22+2 Res 7+2 Sword C(Close to B) Lance A Axe A Lissa LV20/10/11 EXP34 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 47/47 Pwr 14+2 Mag Pwr 32+2 Skill 30+2 Speed 30+2 Luck 28+2 Def 9+2 Res 28+4 Tome E Staff A Gregor LV20/10/1 EXP0 Final Class: Assassin HP 53/53 Pwr 30+2 Mag Pwr 4+2 Skill 36+2 Speed 26+2 Luck 19+2 Def 20+2 Res 7+2 Sword A Bow E Tharja LV20/8 EXP56 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 51/51 Pwr 9+2 Mag Pwr 25+2 Skill 16+2 Speed 23+2 Luck 8+2 Def 22+2 Res 13+2 Tome B DLC Micaiah LV20/11/10/2 EXP30 Final Class: Sage HP 54/54 Str 22+2 Mag Pwr 35+2 Skill 31+2 Speed 31+2 Luck 27+2 Def 17+2 Res 18+2 Tome A Staff D(Used a Manual) Lucina LV20/3 EXP56 Class: Merc HP 60/60 Str 26+2 Mag Pwr 14+2 Skill 27(Capped!)+2 Speed 28(Capped!)+2 Luck 34(Capped!)+2 Def 28(Capped!)+2 Res 10+2 Sword C(Close to B) Noire LV20/1 EXP0 Class: Merc HP 42/42 Str 20+2 Mag Pwr 14+2 Skill 24+2 Speed 27(Capped!)+2 Luck 21+2 Def 20+2 Res 9+2 Sword E Morgan LV20/1 EXP0 Class: Grandmaster HP 61/61 Str 29+2 Mag Pwr 24+2 Skill 26+2 Speed 29+2 Luck 33+2 Def 26+2 Res 18+2 Sword C Tome C Gold: 34,067G Chapter 16 Spoils -Bullion(M)x2 -Master Sealx2 -Beast Killer -Mend -Speedwing(Gave to Maribelle) -Silver Sword -Killer Axe -Steel Sword -Short Spear -Steel Bow Boss: Cervantes Skills: Def+2 Indoors Map Counter Pavise Aegis+ Difficulty: Normal Time to haul yourself up north before reinforcements arrive. It's all just a matter of taking out Counters while sending Chrom and Morgan up north to finish the fight ending it with no defeats. I even got lucky and had Tharja do Vengeance at near max damage dealing up to 177dmg along with crits and Katarina's Bolt. Turns 6 MVP: Tharja&Noire(Yes, because she Vengeanced several people even with near max dmg a 2HP left.) Chrom LV20/10/17/12 EXP78 Final Class: Bow Knight HP80/80 Str 41(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 9+2 Skill 44(Capped!)+2 Speed 42+2(Capped!) Luck 46(Capped!)+2 Def 31+2 Res 18+2 Sword A Bow A Dia LV20/12/17/8 EXP30 Final Class: Assassin HP 68/68 Str 39(Capped!) Mag Pwr 30(Capped!) Skill 33 Speed 41 Luck 35 Def 34(Capped!) Res 17(Used a Talisman!) Sword A Bow C(Close to B) Maribelle LV13/17/1 EXP4 Class: Dark Flier HP 45/45 Str 12+2 Mag Pwr 23+2 Skill 25+2 Speed 21(Speedwing)+2 Luck 29+2 Def 9+2 Res 24+2 Spear E Tome D Freddie LV19 EXP53 Class: Great Knight HP 48/48 Pwr 21+2 Mag Pwr 3+2 Skill 24+2 Speed 19+2 Luck 17+2 Def 23+2 Res 8+2 Sword B Lance A Axe A Lissa LV20/10/16 EXP98 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 50/50 Pwr 14+2 Mag Pwr 34+2 Skill 32+2 Speed 33+2 Luck 32+2 Def 10+2 Res 33+2 Tome E(1-2 strikes and it's D) Staff A Gregor LV20/10/3 EXP2 Final Class: Assassin HP 55/55 Pwr 30+2 Mag Pwr 5+2 Skill 38+2 Speed 27+2 Luck 19+2 Def 22+2 Res 7+2 Sword A Bow E Tharja LV20/12 EXP60 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 55/55 Pwr 10+2 Mag Pwr 28+2 Skill 19+2 Speed 25+2 Luck 10+2 Def 25+2 Res 13+2 Tome A DLC Micaiah LV20/11/10/4 EXP94 Final Class: Sage HP 55/55 Str 23+2 Mag Pwr 36+2 Skill 33+2 Speed 32+2 Luck 28+2 Def 18+2 Res 19+2 Tome A Staff D Lucina LV20/8 EXP32 Class: Merc HP 60/60(Capped!) Str 27(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 15+2 Skill 27(Capped!)+2 Speed 28(Capped!)+2 Luck 34(Capped!)+2 Def 28(Capped!)+2 Res 11+2 Sword B Noire LV20/4 EXP36 Class: Merc HP 45/45 Str 23+2 Mag Pwr 15+2 Skill 27(Capped!)+2 Speed 27(Capped!)+2 Luck 21+2 Def 23+2 Res 11+2 Sword E Morgan LV20/10 EXP60 Class: Grandmaster HP 70/70 Str 30+2 Mag Pwr 28+2 Skill 33+2 Speed 34+2 Luck 41+2 Def 33+2 Res 24+2 Sword C Tome B Gold: 35,538G Chapter 17 Spoils -Fortify Treasure 4 3 2 1 1. Boots 2. Angel Robe 3. Master Seal 4. Bullion(L) Difficulty: Hard/Very Hard You can finish this quickly by getting to the Thief in time before he ransacks the Boots. Once you advance only your strongest troops up north as these guys REALLY hurt with the Luna+'s. Strong enough to 3HKO even your strongest troops if they are attacked by three of them. Anyway, you don't want to spend too much time here as when Excellus shows up, be prepared to bambared by powerful troops. Some which I had to fight as I couldn't get to the boss in time. This is more of an escape map than anything else as these guys really will hurt you. -.- Just grab the Boots and Angel Robe and leave. It gets too out of hand when too many reinforcements arrive. A few troops retreated due to some unlucky Luna+ hits and a Counter HKO with one of them. But...the powerful wave were dealt with some before I could get to Pheros ending the map. Turns: 13 MVP: Dia&Frederick Chrom LV20/10/17/10 EXP2 Final Class: Bow Knight Str 40+2 Mag Pwr 9+2 Skill 44(Capped!)+2 Speed 42+2(Capped!) Luck 46(Capped!)+2 Def 30+2 Res 18+2 Sword A Bow A Dia LV20/12/17/5 EXP62 Final Class: Assassin HP 67/67 Str 38 Mag Pwr 30(Capped!) Skill 32 Speed 39 Luck 35 Def 34(Capped!) Res 16(Used a Talisman!) Sword A Bow C Maribelle LV13/17/1 EXP0 Class: Dark Flier HP 45/45 Str 12+2 Mag Pwr 23+2 Skill 25+2 Speed 21(Speedwing)+2 Luck 29+2 Def 9+2 Res 24+4 Spear E Tome D Freddie LV19 EXP45 Class: Great Knight HP 48/48 Pwr 21+2 Mag Pwr 3+2 Skill 24+2 Speed 19+2 Luck 17+2 Def 23+2 Res 8+2 Sword B Lance A Axe A Lissa LV20/10/13 EXP14 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 49/49 Pwr 14+2 Mag Pwr 33+2 Skill 31+2 Speed 32+2 Luck 30+2 Def 10+2 Res 30+4 Tome E(Close to D) Staff A Gregor LV20/10/2 EXP12 Final Class: Assassin HP 54/54 Pwr 30+2 Mag Pwr 5+2 Skill 37+2 Speed 27+2 Luck 19+2 Def 21+2 Res 7+2 Sword A Bow E Tharja LV20/10 EXP16 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 53/53 Pwr 9+2 Mag Pwr 27+2 Skill 18+2 Speed 25+2 Luck 9+2 Def 24+2 Res 13+2 Tome B DLC Micaiah LV20/11/10/3 EXP62 Final Class: Sage HP 55/55 Str 23+2 Mag Pwr 35+2 Skill 32+2 Speed 31+2 Luck 27+2 Def 17+2 Res 19+2 Tome A Staff D Lucina LV20/4 EXP94 Class: Merc HP 60/60 Str 27(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 14+2 Skill 27(Capped!)+2 Speed 28(Capped!)+2 Luck 34(Capped!)+2 Def 28(Capped!)+2 Res 11+2 Sword C(Close to B) Noire LV20/3 EXP40 Class: Merc HP 44/44 Str 22+2 Mag Pwr 15+2 Skill 26+2 Speed 27(Capped!)+2 Luck 21+2 Def 22+2 Res 10+2 Sword E Morgan LV20/9 EXP58 Class: Grandmaster HP 69/69 Str 30+2 Mag Pwr 28+2 Skill 32+2 Speed 34+2 Luck 40+2 Def 32+2 Res 23+2 Sword C Tome C(Close to B rank.) Gold: 35,538G Chapter 18 Spoils N/A Treasure N/A Difficulty: Very Hard This chapter REALLY will push your characters to the limit of having to battle such powerful foes while you're getting cooked to death by the lava terrain to make it worse. Bring alot of Elixirs here. You'll need them. As the Counters are already slowing down your progress while you're trying to find a safe place to land. Flyers also get cooked too. So...it's just a matter of finding safe land in the lava (There is some) to fend off the rest of the wave. It's a little lighter colored that others. Stand on those. No rookie 1st class unit should even dare to set foot in here as they will get slaughtered. Only Morgan+Lucina and Chrom were left standing in this onslaught. The treasures all burned in the lava terrain as you are likely not going to ever get them in this mode. Period. Turns: 16 MVP: Lucina&Morgan After buying alot of tonics and using them to fix their weak spots...I now begin the next map. Chrom LV20/10/17/14 EXP72 Final Class: Bow Knight Str 41(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 9+2 Skill 44(Capped!)+2 Speed 42+2(Capped!) Luck 46(Capped!)+2 Def 31+2 Res 18+2 Sword A Bow A Dia LV20/12/17/11 EXP18 Final Class: Assassin HP 70/70 Str 39(Capped!) Mag Pwr 30(Capped!) Skill 33 Speed 44 Luck 37 Def 34(Capped!) Res 17 Sword A Bow B Maribelle LV13/17/1 EXP10 Class: Dark Flier HP 45/45 Str 12+2 Mag Pwr 23+2 Skill 25+2 Speed 21(Speedwing)+2 Luck 29+2 Def 9+2 Res 24+4 Spear E Tome D Freddie LV20 EXP-- Class: Great Knight HP 49/49 Pwr 22+2 Mag Pwr 3+2 Skill 25+2 Speed 19+2 Luck 17+2 Def 23+2 Res 8+2 Sword B Lance A Axe A Lissa LV20/10/17 EXP42 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 51/51 Pwr 15+2 Mag Pwr 35+2 Skill 33+2 Speed 33+2 Luck 33+2 Def 10+2 Res 34+4 Tome D Staff A Gregor LV20/10/3 EXP36 Final Class: Assassin HP 55/55 Pwr 30+2 Mag Pwr 5+2 Skill 38+2 Speed 27+2 Luck 19+2 Def 22+2 Res 7+2 Sword A Bow E Tharja LV20/13 EXP50 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 56/56 Pwr 10+2 Mag Pwr 29+2 Skill 19+2 Speed 25+2 Luck 11+2 Def 25+2 Res 13+2 Tome A DLC Micaiah LV20/11/10/5 EXP68 Final Class: Sage HP 55/55 Str 24+2 Mag Pwr 37+2 Skill 34+2 Speed 33+2 Luck 29+2 Def 18+2 Res 20+2 Tome A Staff D Lucina LV20/9 EXP72 Class: Merc HP 60/60 Str 27(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 15+2 Skill 27(Capped!)+2 Speed 28(Capped!)+2 Luck 34(Capped!)+2 Def 28(Capped!)+2 Res 12+2 Sword B Noire LV20/5 EXP92 Class: Merc HP 51/51 Str 24+2 Mag Pwr 15+2 Skill 27(Capped!)+2 Speed 27(Capped!)+2 Luck 22+2 Def 23+2 Res 12+2 Sword E(Close to D) Morgan LV20/18 EXP18 Class: Grandmaster HP 77/77 Str 33+2 Mag Pwr 30+2 Skill 37+2 Speed 37+2 Luck 45+2 Def 35+2 Res 27+2 Sword C Tome B Gold: 14,553G Chapter 19 Spoils -Silver Lance -Silver Axe -Silver Bow -Silver Sword Difficulty: Hard/Very Hard That map is not easy to fend off especially when you already get surrounded with Counter to make this alot more problematic than it has to be. Your best bet is to fend off the wave while on the fort to increase you chance the highest to fend off. have Sol, Nosferatu and Bows...you will NEED these if your going to expect to get through this map. Lissa and Maribelle retreated after getting cut down even on the fort. Their chance of getting hit was no more than 20ish%. But...this is your best bet. To defeat Walhart, you must have a Brave Sword in addition to your second attacker to having one. Just make a clear path to him and have your showdown with him to end the battle. Turns: 7 MVP: Tharja&Noire But at least Lucina can promote now into a Hero. Chrom LV20/10/17/16 EXP16 Final Class: Bow Knight Str 41(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 9+2 Skill 44(Capped!)+2 Speed 42+2(Capped!) Luck 46(Capped!)+2 Def 32+2 Res 18+2 Sword A Bow A Skills: Duel Attack Paragon All Stats+2 Bowbreaker Bowfaire Dia LV20/12/17/12 EXP40 Final Class: Assassin HP 71/71 Str 39(Capped!) Mag Pwr 30(Capped!) Skill 34 Speed 44 Luck 37 Def 34(Capped!) Res 17 Sword A Bow B Skills: Veteran Lethality Sol Armsthrift Paragon Maribelle LV13/17/1 EXP78 Class: Dark Flier HP 45/45 Str 12+2 Mag Pwr 23+2 Skill 25+2 Speed 21(Speedwing)+2 Luck 29+2 Def 9+2 Res 24+4 Spear E Tome D Skills: Iote's Shield Paragon All Stats+2 Demoiselle Duel Support+ Freddie LV20/1 EXP0 Class: Paladin HP 48/48 Pwr 20+2 Mag Pwr 4+2 Skill 26+2 Speed 22+2 Luck 17+2 Def 19+2 Res 13+2 Sword B Lance A Skills: Outdoor Battle Luna All Stats+2 Paragon Duel Guard Lissa LV20/10/19 EXP4 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 52/52 Pwr 15+2 Mag Pwr 35+2 Skill 33+2 Speed 35+2 Luck 34+2 Def 10+2 Res 36+4 Tome D Staff A Skills: Duel Support+ Healtouch Paragon All Stats+2 Res+2 Gregor LV20/10/4 EXP22 Final Class: Assassin HP 56/56 Pwr 31+2 Mag Pwr 5+2 Skill 39+2 Speed 27+2 Luck 20+2 Def 22+2 Res 7+2 Sword A Bow E Skills: Armsthrift Patience Sol All Stats+2 Paragon Tharja LV20/16 EXP22 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 59/59 Pwr 10+2 Mag Pwr 31+2 Skill 19+2 Speed 28+2 Luck 12+2 Def 27+2 Res 14+2 Tome A Skills: Hex Anathma ParagonAll Stats+2 Vengeance DLC Micaiah LV20/11/10/8 EXP20 Final Class: Sage HP 57/57 Str 25 Mag Pwr 40 Skill 34 Speed 34 Luck 29 Def 18 Res 21 Tome A Staff D Skills: Sol Armsthrift Paragon Shadowgift Patience Lucina LV20/11/1 EXP0 Class: Bowknight HP 68/68 Str 30+2 Mag Pwr 15+2 Skill 29+2 Speed 32+2 Luck 34+2 Def 29+2 Res 14+2 Sword B Skills: Veteran Duel Attack+ All Stats+2 Aether Paragon Noire LV20/7 EXP18 Class: Merc HP 53/53 Str 26+2 Mag Pwr 17+2 Skill 27(Capped!)+2 Speed 27(Capped!)+2 Luck 23+2 Def 24+2 Res 13+2 Sword D Skills: Aptitude Paragon Armsthrift All Stats+2 Vengeance Morgan LV20/20/1 EXP0 Class: Grandmaster HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 29 Mag Pwr 30 Skill 35 Speed 36 Luck 46 Def 37 Res 30 Tome B Skills: Veteran Armsthrift Paragon Solidary Rightful King Gold: 13,217G Chapter 20 Spoils -Dracoshield -Bullion(L) -Bolgannone -Longbow -Physic Treasure 12 34 1. Second Seal 2. Dragonstone+ 3. Beaststone+ 4. Spirit Dust Difficulty: Normal/Hard A fun chapter. It was only a matter of taking out Counters and battling on the left and right sides first as the center blockade strategy won't work due to them having Counter and Pass. Plus it's dangerous with all of the Luna+'s that they throw at you. After having Lucina+Gregor deal with the southern left wave and Morgan+Cordelia deal with the southeastern wave the AI then sent others down, but unaware that I had plenty of Sorcerers and ranged attackers ready for them. When they were dealt with, the reinforcements were easy enough to deal with Morgan+Aversa's Night getting nearly unlimited uses out of it having 48 Luck. The absorb did enough to even deal with Counter foes as he got his restoration from others that didn't have it! After I had Anna loot the treasure, I then had disarmed Chrom lure Walhart and his minions down to me. Brave weapons are the key to dealing with him as he has both Pavise+ and Aegis+ at his disposal. His remaining minions were dealt with Maribelle+Lissa. Noire promoted during this chapter and made her into a Bowknight now. :D I then finish Walhart off with my remaining characters that were by him with Celica Gales. Oh, and about the Spirit Dust, the Thief got away with it. Sorry. Turns: 13 MVP: Tharja&Noire After selling unneeded things and the Bullion(L) then purchasing some tonics and using them to fix their weak spots along with two Bronze Bow forges for Lucina and Gregor...I then begin the next map. Chrom LV20/10/17/17 EXP14 Final Class: Bow Knight Str 41(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 9+2 Skill 44(Capped!)+2 Speed 42+2(Capped!) Luck 46(Capped!)+2 Def 33+2 Res 18+2 Sword A Bow A Skills: Duel Attack Paragon All Stats+2 Bowbreaker Bowfaire Dia LV20/12/17/14 EXP14 Final Class: Assassin HP 73/73 Str 39(Capped!) Mag Pwr 30(Capped!) Skill 34 Speed 45 Luck 38 Def 34(Capped!) Res 18 Sword A Bow B(Close to A) Skills: Veteran Lethality Sol Armsthrift Paragon Maribelle LV13/17/2 EXP94 Class: Dark Flier HP 55/55(Used Naga Tear!) Str 14+2 Mag Pwr 25+2 Skill 25+2 Speed 24+2 Luck 32+2 Def 11+2 Res 26+4 Spear E Tome D Skills: Iote's Shield Paragon All Stats+2 Demoiselle Duel Support+ Freddie LV20/1 EXP24 Final Class: Paladin HP 48/48 Pwr 20+2 Mag Pwr 4+2 Skill 26+2 Speed 22+2 Luck 17+2 Def 19+2 Res 13+2 Sword B Lance A Skills: Outdoor Battle Luna All Stats+2 Paragon Duel Guard+ Lissa LV20/10/20/1 EXP0 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 52/52 Pwr 15+2 Mag Pwr 35+2 Skill 33+2 Speed 35+2 Luck 34+2 Def 12(Used a Dracoshield!)+2 Res 37+2 Tome D Staff A Skills: Duel Support+ Healtouch Paragon All Stats+2 Miracle She's getting relooped. Gregor LV20/10/5 EXP12 Final Class: Assassin HP 57/57 Pwr 32 Mag Pwr 5 Skill 40 Speed 28 Luck 21 Def 22 Res 7 Sword A Bow E(Close to D) Skills: Armsthrift Patience Sol Lethality Paragon Tharja LV20/20/1 EXP0 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 61/61 Pwr 11+2 Mag Pwr 34+2 Skill 20+2 Speed 32+2 Luck 13+2 Def 28+2 Res 16+2 Tome A Skills: Hex Anathma Paragon All Stats+2 Vengeance She's getting relooped. DLC Micaiah LV20/11/10/11 EXP64 Final Class: Sage HP 60/60 Str 25 Mag Pwr 41 Skill 36 Speed 36 Luck 31 Def 18 Res 23 Tome A Staff D Skills: Sol Armsthrift Paragon Shadowgift Patience Lucina LV20/11/2 EXP20 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 69/69 Str 30+2 Mag Pwr 15+2 Skill 30+2 Speed 32+2 Luck 34+2 Def 29+2 Res 15+2 Sword B Bow E Skills: Veteran Duel Attack+ All Stats+2 Aether Paragon Noire LV20/10/1 EXP0 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 63/63 Str 31+2 Mag Pwr 19+2 Skill 29+2 Speed 30+2 Luck 25+2 Def 26+2 Res 17+2 Sword D(Few strikes and it's at C) Bow C Skills: Aptitude Paragon Armsthrift All Stats+2 Vengeance Morgan LV20/20/6 EXP92 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 31(Capped!) Mag Pwr 31 Skill 35(Capped!) Speed 39 Luck 46(Capped!) Def 38 Res 30 Tome A Skills: Veteran Armsthrift Paragon Solidary Rightful King Gold: 10,899G Chapter 21 Spoils -Mire -Bolt Axe -Master Key -Rune Treasure 1 3 2 4 1.Secret Book 2.N/A 3.Fortify 4.N/A It just a matter of disarming and taking out Counters with ranged weapons as you have got to hurry and leave as you have no way to deal with the ranged attackers without Snipers+Longbow/Double Bow as they often carry Hawkeye in this mode which that's dangerous as they can happily pelt you without any faulty. So...it's just a matter of Rescuing and grabbing the 1 and 3rd treasures as I head out. The boss, Algol is not worth mentioning as I've pelt him with the Astra Bow which Dia has now for her primary weapon now thanks to Armsthrift. You only need B rank in bows to use it. Other than losing Gregor to a Rune crit everything else went well. Turns: 8 MVP: Dia&Frederick Sold all of my axes and other stuff that I don't need whatsoever and have bought 4 Ill's, 3 Mire's(As they stop Counter from activating!), and a Brave Bow for Chrom. Chrom LV20/10/17/18 EXP60 Final Class: Bow Knight Str 41(Capped!)+2 Mag Pwr 9+2 Skill 44(Capped!)+2 Speed 42+2(Capped!) Luck 46(Capped!)+2 Def 34(Capped!)+2 Res 19+2 Sword A Bow A Skills: Duel Attack Paragon All Stats+2 Bowbreaker Bowfaire Dia LV20/12/17/15 EXP60 Final Class: Assassin HP 74/74 Str 39(Capped!) Mag Pwr 30(Capped!) Skill 35 Speed 46(Capped!) Luck 38 Def 34(Capped!) Res 18 Sword A Bow A Skills: Veteran Lethality Sol Armsthrift Paragon Maribelle LV13/17/3 EXP42 Class: Dark Flier HP 56/56 Str 14+2 Mag Pwr 25+2 Skill 28+2 Speed 24+2 Luck 33+2 Def 11+2 Res 26+4 Spear E Tome D (Close to C) Skills: Iote's Shield Paragon All Stats+2 Demoiselle Duel Support+ Freddie LV20/1 EXP80 Final Class: Paladin HP 48/48 Pwr 20+2 Mag Pwr 4+2 Skill 26+2 Speed 22+2 Luck 17+2 Def 19+2 Res 13+2 Sword B Lance A Skills: Outdoor Battle Luna All Stats+2 Paragon Duel Guard+ Lissa LV20/10/20/2 EXP48 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 53/53 Pwr 15+2 Mag Pwr 35+2 Skill 33+2 Speed 35+2 Luck 35+2 Def 12+2 Res 37+2 Tome D Staff A Skills: Duel Support+ Demoiselle Paragon All Stats+2 Miracle Gregor LV20/10/6 EXP2 Final Class: Assassin HP 58/58 Pwr 32 Mag Pwr 5 Skill 41 Speed 29 Luck 21 Def 23 Res 7 Sword A Bow E(1 strike and it's D) Skills: Armsthrift Patience Sol Lethality Paragon Tharja LV20/20/1 EXP98 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 61/61 Pwr 11+2 Mag Pwr 35+2 Skill 21+2 Speed 33+2 Luck 14+2 Def 28+2 Res 16+2 Tome A Skills: Hex Anathma Paragon All Stats+2 Vengeance DLC Micaiah LV20/11/10/12 EXP70 Final Class: Sage HP 60/60 Str 25 Mag Pwr 42 Skill 37 Speed 37 Luck 32 Def 18 Res 23 Tome A Staff D Skills: Sol Armsthrift Paragon Shadowgift Patience Lucina LV20/11/4 EXP22 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 70/70 Str 32+2 Mag Pwr 15+2 Skill 31+2 Speed 34+2 Luck 36+2 Def 29+2 Res 15+2 Sword B Bow E Skills: Veteran Duel Attack+ All Stats+2 Aether Paragon Noire LV20/10/1 EXP70 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 63/63 Str 31+2 Mag Pwr 19+2 Skill 29+2 Speed 30+2 Luck 25+2 Def 26+2 Res 17+2 Sword D(Few strikes and it's at C) Bow C Skills: Aptitude Paragon Armsthrift All Stats+2 Vengeance Morgan LV20/20/8 EXP42 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 31(Capped!) Mag Pwr 32 Skill 35(Capped!) Speed 41 Luck 46(Capped!) Def 38 Res 32 Tome A Skills: Veteran Armsthrift Paragon Solidary Rightful King Gold: 28,173G Chapter 22 Spoils -Yewfelle -Valflame -Gungnir -Helswrath -Balmung -Recover -Goddess Icon Difficulty: Normal Taking care of these guys really helps if you happen to have rallies. If not...then you definitely need to use your strongest and ONLY your strongest against them. Ike took care of Draco along with Porcus. Canis was dealt with by Chrom. You can afford to take your time here as they don't go Aggro for a few turns within reason. I had Lissa+Maribelle deal with the Bowknight crusader getting lucky duel guards, or Lissa would have been felled. While getting other characters get a crack at the other western ones. The northern ones were dealt with...by the strongest characters of course. Astra Bow is your best bet against the Ill tome foe. After losing Gregor and Miccy to this onslaught towards the end(Northern foes), Aversa was easy enough with the Astra Bow although the Brave ones work just as well. After dropping the Goddess Icon(Which Gregor is getting this...) the chapter ends. Turns: 9 MVP: Dia&Frederick After buying some more tonics then tonicing everyone's weak spots and fully tonicing Chrom along with forging a Brave Sword with the left over money as it is needed to combat two bosses. Chrom LV20/10/17/20/2 EXP50 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 42+2 Mag Pwr 9+2 Skill 46+2 Speed 42+2 Luck 48+2 Def 36+2 Res 19+2 Sword A Bow A Skills: Duel Attack Paragon All Stats+2 Limitbreaker Bowfaire Dia LV20/12/17/16 EXP48 Final Class: Assassin HP 74/74 Str 40 Mag Pwr 31 Skill 35 Speed 47 Luck 39 Def 34(Capped!) Res 19 Sword A Bow A Skills: Limitbreaker Lethality Sol Armsthrift Paragon Maribelle LV13/17/3 EXP60 Class: Dark Flier HP 56/56 Str 14+2 Mag Pwr 25+2 Skill 28+2 Speed 24+2 Luck 33+2 Def 11+2 Res 26+4 Spear E Tome D(1~2 strikes before it is C) Skills: Iote's Shield Paragon All Stats+2 Demoiselle Duel Support+ Freddie LV20/1 EXP98 Final Class: Paladin HP 48/48 Pwr 20+2 Mag Pwr 4+2 Skill 26+2 Speed 22+2 Luck 17+2 Def 19+2 Res 13+2 Sword B Lance A Skills: Outdoor Battle Luna All Stats+2 Paragon Duel Guard+ Lissa LV20/10/20/5 EXP48 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 55/55 Pwr 15+2 Mag Pwr 38+2 Skill 34+2 Speed 38+2 Luck 37+2 Def 13+2 Res 39+2 Tome D Staff A Skills: Duel Support+ Demoiselle Paragon All Stats+2 Miracle Gregor LV20/10/6 EXP2 Final Class: Assassin HP 58/58 Pwr 32 Mag Pwr 5 Skill 41 Speed 29 Luck 21 Def 23 Res 7 Sword A Bow D Skills: Armsthrift Patience Sol Lethality Paragon Tharja LV20/20/4 EXP38 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 63/63 Pwr 12+2 Mag Pwr 35+2 Skill 23+2 Speed 34+2 Luck 15+2 Def 29+2 Res 16+2 Tome A Skills: Hex Anathma Paragon All Stats+2 Vengeance DLC Micaiah LV20/11/10/13 EXP10 Final Class: Sage HP 61/61 Str 25 Mag Pwr 42 Skill 38 Speed 37 Luck 33 Def 19 Res 23 Tome A Staff D Skills: Sol Armsthrift Paragon Shadowgift Patience Lucina LV20/11/4 EXP54 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 70/70 Str 32+2 Mag Pwr 15+2 Skill 31+2 Speed 34+2 Luck 36+2 Def 29+2 Res 15+2 Sword B(Close to A) Bow E Skills: Veteran Duel Attack+ All Stats+2 Aether Paragon Noire LV20/10/1 EXP94 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 63/63 Str 31+2 Mag Pwr 19+2 Skill 29+2 Speed 30+2 Luck 25+2 Def 26+2 Res 17+2 Sword D(Few strikes and it's at C) Bow C Skills: Aptitude Paragon Armsthrift All Stats+2 Vengeance Morgan LV20/20/8 EXP76 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 31 Mag Pwr 32 Skill 35 Speed 41 Luck 46 Def 38 Res 32 Tome A Skills: Veteran Armsthrift Paragon Limitbreaker Rightful King Gold: 6196G Chapter 23 Spoils -Silver Sword -Silver Bow -Silver Lance -Silver Axe -Talisman -Dragon Killer -Arcfire Difficulty: Hard It's a simple game of hiding in the pillars for increased avoid and def to go up against these guys. Make sure that your not surrounded by Counter reinforcements like I was when I lost nearly everyone here due to Counter koes. Only Morgan+Lucina, Chrom+Dia, and Basilio+Flavia have made it out alive. Validar was easy enough to deal with either a forged Brave weapon, or with the Astra Bow as the multiple strikes can 2HKO him with 2 Astras worth. Can't attack him up close as he possesses Counter on this mode along with Vengeance to make it worse. Guess your Luna+ skill is now gone. xP After buying some tonics and befitting everyones weak spots with them as well as selling the spoils I got last chapter(although, I made use of the spoiled Silver Bow during Ch23)along with some Celica Galesx3 for Maribelle...I then begin the next map. Turns: 11 MVP: Lucina&Morgan Chrom LV20/10/17/20/4 EXP42 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 43+2 Mag Pwr 10+2 Skill 48+2 Speed 44+2 Luck 50+2 Def 38+2 Res 19+2 Sword A Bow A Skills: Duel Attack Paragon All Stats+2 Limitbreaker Bowfaire Dia LV20/12/17/16 EXP82 Final Class: Assassin HP 74/74 Str 40 Mag Pwr 31 Skill 35 Speed 47 Luck 39 Def 34(Capped!) Res 19 Sword A Bow A Skills: Limitbreaker Lethality Sol Armsthrift Paragon Maribelle LV13/17/3 EXP98 Class: Dark Flier HP 56/56 Str 14+2 Mag Pwr 25+2 Skill 28+2 Speed 24+2 Luck 33+2 Def 11+2 Res 26+4 Spear E Tome C Skills: Iote's Shield Paragon All Stats+2 Demoiselle Duel Support+ Freddie LV20/2 EXP54 Final Class: Paladin HP 49/49 Pwr 21+2 Mag Pwr 4+2 Skill 26+2 Speed 23+2 Luck 17+2 Def 19+2 Res 13+2 Sword B Lance A Skills: Outdoor Battle Luna All Stats+2 Paragon Duel Guard+ Lissa LV20/10/20/6 EXP90 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 55/55 Pwr 15+2 Mag Pwr 38+2 Skill 34+2 Speed 39+2 Luck 38+2 Def 13+2 Res 40+2 Tome D(Close to C) Staff A Skills: Duel Support+ Demoiselle Paragon All Stats+2 Miracle Gregor LV20/10/6 EXP2 Final Class: Assassin HP 58/58 Pwr 32 Mag Pwr 5 Skill 41 Speed 29 Luck 21 Def 23 Res 7 Sword A Bow D Skills: Armsthrift Patience Sol Lethality Paragon Tharja LV20/20/6 EXP16 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 65/65 Pwr 13+2 Mag Pwr 37+2 Skill 23+2 Speed 34+2 Luck 15+2 Def 31+2 Res 18+2 Tome A Skills: Hex Anathma Paragon All Stats+2 Vengeance DLC Micaiah LV20/11/10/13 EXP60 Final Class: Sage HP 61/61 Str 25 Mag Pwr 42 Skill 38 Speed 37 Luck 33 Def 19 Res 23 Tome A Staff D Skills: Sol Armsthrift Paragon Shadowgift Patience Lucina LV20/11/7 EXP64 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 73/73 Str 33+2 Mag Pwr 16+2 Skill 33+2 Speed 37+2 Luck 38+2 Def 29+2 Res 16+2 Sword B(Close to A) Bow D Skills: Veteran Duel Attack+ All Stats+2 Aether Paragon Noire LV20/10/3 EXP22 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 65/65 Str 32+2 Mag Pwr 20+2 Skill 31+2 Speed 32+2 Luck 27+2 Def 27+2 Res 17+2 Sword C Bow C(Close to B) Skills: Aptitude Paragon Armsthrift All Stats+2 Vengeance Morgan LV20/20/13 EXP36 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 32 Mag Pwr 33 Skill 42 Speed 42 Luck 54 Def 41 Res 33 Tome A Skills: Veteran Armsthrift Paragon Limitbreaker Rightful King DLC Ike EXP76 Class: Paladin HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 46+2 Mag Pwr 18+2 Skill 37+2 Speed 38+2 Luck 33+2 Def 37+2 Res 22+2 Sword A Spear E Skills: Aether Limitbreaker Patience Paragon All Stats+2 Gold: 10,633G Chapter 24 Spoils -Tomahawk -Bullion(M) -Spear -Elixir -Thoron Difficulty: Very Hard You will need to ensure that no hawkeye+Luna+ers live to tell the tale as these foes really hurt and that this is yet another routing map. So, hope that you have Fortify as you should have two of them already without Spotpass. Make sure that the Counter foes are dealt with from afar with Mire's. You should have at least one from Chapter 21. The fliers with Luna's are to be dealt with accordingly. As they can prey to kill your weaker troops with ease. The boss can be dealt with Brave weapons along with Duel Attacks. This place also goes Aggro to make it worse. Since this is a routing map, it'll be tough. Other than losing Micaiah and Anna, it went ok. Now I use my Rift Dorr on Ch24. Anna has a Manual, Dracoshield and Angel Robe. All which I happily buy. I use the Manual on Miccy. She now can use Physics. I then give both the Angel Robe and Dracoshield to Maribelle. I then purchase some tonics and use them to fix their weak spots before beginning the next map. Turns: 8 MVP: Lucina&Morgan Chrom LV20/10/17/20/5 EXP86 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 44+2 Mag Pwr 10+2 Skill 48+2 Speed 45+2 Luck 51+2 Def 39+2 Res 19+2 Sword A Bow A Skills: Duel Attack Paragon All Stats+2 Limitbreaker Bowfaire Dia LV20/12/17/17 EXP98 Final Class: Assassin HP 75/75 Str 40 Mag Pwr 32 Skill 36 Speed 47 Luck 39 Def 34 Res 20 Sword A Bow A Skills: Limitbreaker Lethality Sol Armsthrift Paragon Maribelle LV13/17/4 EXP60 Class: Dark Flier HP 62/62(Used a Seraph Robe!) Str 14+2 Mag Pwr 25+2 Skill 29+2 Speed 25+2 Luck 33+2 Def 13(Used a Dracoshield!)+2 Res 27+4 Spear E Tome C Skills: Iote's Shield Paragon All Stats+2 Demoiselle Duel Support+ Freddie LV20/3 EXP2 Final Class: Paladin HP 50/50 Pwr 21+2 Mag Pwr 4+2 Skill 26+2 Speed 24+2 Luck 17+2 Def 19+2 Res 13+2 Sword B Lance A Skills: Outdoor Battle Luna All Stats+2 Paragon Duel Guard+ Lissa LV20/10/20/10 EXP96 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 57/57 Pwr 17+2 Mag Pwr 40+2 Skill 36+2 Speed 40+2 Luck 42+2 Def 14+2 Res 43+2 Tome D(Close to C) Staff A Skills: Duel Support+ Demoiselle Paragon All Stats+2 Miracle Gregor LV20/10/6 EXP76 Final Class: Assassin HP 58/58 Pwr 32 Mag Pwr 5 Skill 41 Speed 29 Luck 21 Def 23 Res 7 Sword A Bow D Skills: Armsthrift Patience Sol Lethality Paragon Tharja LV20/20/8 EXP56 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 67/67 Pwr 14+2 Mag Pwr 38+2 Skill 24+2 Speed 36+2 Luck 15+2 Def 32+2 Res 19+2 Tome A Skills: Hex Anathma Paragon All Stats+2 Vengeance DLC Micaiah LV20/11/10/14 EXP80 Final Class: Sage HP 61/61 Str 25 Mag Pwr 42 Skill 39 Speed 38 Luck 33 Def 19 Res 23 Tome A Staff C(Used a Manual!) Skills: Sol Armsthrift Paragon Shadowgift Patience Lucina LV20/11/8 EXP94 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 74/74 Str 33+2 Mag Pwr 16+2 Skill 34+2 Speed 37+2 Luck 39+2 Def 29+2 Res 16+2 Sword B(Close to A) Bow D(Close to C) Skills: Veteran Duel Attack+ All Stats+2 Aether Paragon Noire LV20/10/6 EXP86 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 69/69 Str 34+2 Mag Pwr 21+2 Skill 34+2 Speed 34+2 Luck 29+2 Def 29+2 Res 20+2 Sword C Bow B Skills: Aptitude Paragon Armsthrift All Stats+2 Vengeance Morgan LV20/20/16 EXP2 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 33 Mag Pwr 35 Skill 43 Speed 44 Luck 56 Def 43 Res 33 Tome A Skills: Veteran Armsthrift Paragon Limitbreaker Rightful King DLC Ike LV20/6 EXP50 Class: Paladin HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 47+2 Mag Pwr 18+2 Skill 37+2 Speed 38+2 Luck 33+2 Def 38+2 Res 22+2 Sword A Spear E Skills: Aether Limitbreaker Patience Paragon All Stats+2 Gold: 10,801G Chapter 25 Spoils -Thunder Sword -Physic -Goetia Difficulty: Near Impossible Seriously. The only thing that you can do here is to watch your soldiers get brutally murdered. This is why that you never want to touch this mode on classic. The only thing that you can do is to have everyone head up north before you completely get slaughtered. This map will surround you no matter what the outcome is. The reinforcements are powerful and never stops coming. Not when your getting long hit to death by usually Hawkeyed Mires while a powerful Dark Peg finishes you off and gets another turn to kill your other paired troop outright. You want to kill Aversa ASAP as the troops hit so hard that any character will die in 2~3 hits. If you're struggling here, bring fourth Limitbreaking characters to get through. Only do this if ABSOLUTELY nothing works. I mean NOTHING. If they aren't able to survive the onslaught(Which very likely they won't), then better bring in stronger characters, or use the DLC map to train some more. I hope and prey that you don't ever touch this mode on classic. Did it after like 50 dies as nearly everyone got slaughtered with minimal effort during every attempt. Aka: Game Overs. Chrom LV20/10/17/20/6 EXP68 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 45+2 Mag Pwr 10+2 Skill 49+2 Speed 46+2 Luck 52+2 Def 40+2 Res 19+2 Sword A Bow A Skills: Duel Attack Paragon All Stats+2 Limitbreaker Bowfaire Dia LV20/12/17/18 EXP16 Final Class: Assassin HP 76/76 Str 41 Mag Pwr 32 Skill 37 Speed 48 Luck 39 Def 35 Res 20 Sword A Bow A Skills: Limitbreaker Lethality Sol Armsthrift Paragon Maribelle LV13/17/5 EXP34 Class: Dark Flier HP 62/62 Str 14+2 Mag Pwr 25+2 Skill 29+2 Speed 26+2 Luck 33+2 Def 13+2 Res 27+2 Spear E Tome C Skills: Iote's Shield Paragon All Stats+2 Demoiselle Duel Support+ Freddie LV20/3 EXP2 Final Class: Paladin HP 50/50 Pwr 21+2 Mag Pwr 4+2 Skill 26+2 Speed 24+2 Luck 17+2 Def 19+2 Res 13+2 Sword B Lance A Skills: Outdoor Battle Luna All Stats+2 Paragon Duel Guard+ Lissa LV20/10/20/11 EXP40 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 57/57 Pwr 17+2 Mag Pwr 41+2 Skill 36+2 Speed 41+2 Luck 42+2 Def 15+2 Res 44+2 Tome D(Close to C) Staff A Skills: Duel Support+ Demoiselle Paragon All Stats+2 Miracle Gregor LV20/10/6 EXP76 Final Class: Assassin HP 58/58 Pwr 32 Mag Pwr 5 Skill 41 Speed 29 Luck 21 Def 23 Res 7 Sword A Bow D Skills: Armsthrift Patience Sol Lethality Paragon Tharja LV20/20/9 EXP66 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 68/68 Pwr 14+2 Mag Pwr 38+2 Skill 24+2 Speed 37+2 Luck 15+2 Def 33+2 Res 20+2 Tome A Skills: Hex Anathma Paragon All Stats+2 Vengeance DLC Micaiah LV20/11/10/14 EXP88 Final Class: Sage HP 61/61 Str 25 Mag Pwr 42 Skill 39 Speed 38 Luck 33 Def 19 Res 23 Tome A Staff C(Used a Manual!) Skills: Sol Armsthrift Paragon Shadowgift Patience Lucina LV20/11/9 EXP54 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 75/75 Str 33+2 Mag Pwr 16+2 Skill 35+2 Speed 38+2 Luck 40+2 Def 30+2 Res 16+2 Sword B(Couple strikes and it's at A) Bow D(Close to C) Skills: Veteran Duel Attack+ All Stats+2 Aether Paragon Noire LV20/10/7 EXP16 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 70/70 Str 35+2 Mag Pwr 22+2 Skill 35+2 Speed 35+2 Luck 30+2 Def 30+2 Res 20+2 Sword C Bow B Skills: Aptitude Paragon Armsthrift All Stats+2 Vengeance Morgan LV20/20/17 EXP34 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 33 Mag Pwr 36 Skill 44 Speed 45 Luck 56 Def 43 Res 33 Tome A Skills: Veteran Armsthrift Paragon Limitbreaker Rightful King DLC Ike LV20/7 EXP62 Class: Paladin HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 47+2 Mag Pwr 19+2 Skill 38+2 Speed 39+2 Luck 34+2 Def 38+2 Res 22+2 Sword A Spear E Skills: Aether Limitbreaker Patience Paragon All Stats+2 Gold: 9kG Paralogue 17 Spoils -Hammerine Diffculty: Hard This chapter is actually easier if Tiki doesn't make it. Try your best to protect her at any cost so that they don't attack you. Which makes this the ideal place to get some easy EXP since you had to skip Ch25. It could be Hard if you do this before going to Ch19 though. I did get some experience, but right after Tiki died several of the pack got slaughtered as they weren't paired. But...this does make it ideal for preparation before battling Walhart, ...or the Final Chapter. If you somehow defeat the wave to the west on Turn 6, you can prevent Tiki from getting slaughtered. In this mode, it takes good timing to do this as you absolutely cannot form a blockade by her due to them possessing Pass. Other than some retreats and Tiki dying, it did exceedingly well. I now buy better weapons for their better weapon levels that they've achieved before I begin the next chapter. Turns: 7 MVP: Tharja&Noire Chrom LV20/10/17/20/7 EXP8 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 46+2 Mag Pwr 10+2 Skill 50+2 Speed 47+2 Luck 52+2 Def 40+2 Res 19+2 Sword A Bow A Skills: Duel Attack Paragon All Stats+2 Limitbreaker Bowfaire Dia LV20/12/17/18 EXP96 Final Class: Assassin HP 76/76 Str 41 Mag Pwr 32 Skill 37 Speed 48 Luck 39 Def 35 Res 20 Sword A Bow A Skills: Limitbreaker Lethality Sol Armsthrift Paragon Maribelle LV13/17/6 EXP50 Class: Dark Flier HP 62/62 Str 15+2 Mag Pwr 26+2 Skill 30+2 Speed 26+2 Luck 34+2 Def 13+2 Res 27+2 Spear E Tome C Skills: Iote's Shield Paragon All Stats+2 Demoiselle Duel Support+ Freddie LV20/3 EXP26 Final Class: Paladin HP 50/50 Pwr 21+2 Mag Pwr 4+2 Skill 26+2 Speed 24+2 Luck 17+2 Def 19+2 Res 13+2 Sword B Lance A Skills: Outdoor Battle Luna All Stats+2 Paragon Duel Guard+ Lissa LV20/10/20/12 EXP24 Final Class: Valkyrie HP 58/58 Pwr 18+2 Mag Pwr 41+2 Skill 36+2 Speed 42+2 Luck 43+2 Def 16+2 Res 44+2 Tome C Staff A Skills: Duel Support+ Demoiselle Paragon All Stats+2 Miracle Gregor LV20/10/7 EXP84 Final Class: Assassin HP 59/59 Pwr 32 Mag Pwr 5 Skill 42 Speed 30 Luck 24 Def 24 Res 10 Sword A Bow D Skills: Armsthrift Patience Sol Lethality Paragon Tharja LV20/20/10 EXP78 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 69/69 Pwr 15+2 Mag Pwr 39+2 Skill 25+2 Speed 38+2 Luck 16+2 Def 33+2 Res 20+2 Tome A Skills: Hex Anathma Paragon All Stats+2 Vengeance DLC Micaiah LV20/11/10/15 EXP96 Final Class: Sage HP 62/62 Str 25 Mag Pwr 43+5 Skill 39 Speed 39 Luck 34 Def 19 Res 23 Tome A Staff C Skills: Sol Armsthrift Paragon Shadowgift Tomefaire Lucina LV20/11/10 EXP56 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 76/76 Str 34+2 Mag Pwr 17+2 Skill 35+2 Speed 38+2 Luck 41+2 Def 30+2 Res 17+2 Sword B(Couple strikes and it's at A) Bow D(Close to C) Skills: Veteran Duel Attack+ All Stats+2 Aether Paragon Noire LV20/10/8 EXP98 Final Class: Bow Knight HP 71/71 Str 36+2 Mag Pwr 23+2 Skill 35+2 Speed 36+2 Luck 31+2 Def 31+2 Res 21+2 Sword C Bow B Skills: Aptitude Paragon Armsthrift All Stats+2 Vengeance Morgan LV20/20/18 EXP32 Final Class: Sorcerer HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 33 Mag Pwr 36 Skill 44 Speed 45 Luck 56 Def 43 Res 33 Tome A Skills: Veteran Armsthrift Paragon Limitbreaker Rightful King DLC Ike LV20/8 EXP66 Class: Paladin HP 80/80(Capped!) Str 48+2 Mag Pwr 19+2 Skill 39+2 Speed 40+2 Luck 34+2 Def 39+2 Res 22+2 Sword A Spear E Skills: Aether Limitbreaker Patience Paragon All Stats+2 Gold: 8891G Final Chapter Spoils None Difficulty: Easy Turns: 2 MVP: King Marth&Lucina Simple matter of Rescue spam, having Pass, defeating the center foe to clear the area, etc to get to the boss in time. Simple to do. King Marth Weapon: Forged Brave Attk 12x4 Hit100% Crit 0% The 4 Luna's did to her down to 36HP. Tharja Weapon: Goetia Attk 4 Hit 68% Crit 0% Then DLC Miccy+Ike Miccy Weapon: Book Of Naga Attk 4x2 Hit 68% Crit 0% Two Vengeances with he at 60ish health did 18x2, but she got defeated after the first strike. No matter. Along with Duel Braves. HP2 Then I had Dia finish the job with a Brave weapon while paired up with Frederick Dia Weapon: Brave Sword Attk4x4 Hit68% Crit0% After the last strike the game ends and even Tharja got to celebrate. Gold: 646G Congrats. Just did it with no grind having Chrom initiate the final blow of course. Edited May 2, 2014 by Barbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudedudedudeo Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Wait... Why would you have Chrom deliver the final blow? Q_Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Wait... Why would you have Chrom deliver the final blow? Q_Q Why not have him do it? I don't want my created character to give up his/her life for eternal disappearance of Grima. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) You have seen the Avatar's ending, right? DLC skills and spotpass characters generally aren't considered part of nogrind, by the way. Edited May 3, 2014 by Czar_Yoshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) You have seen the Avatar's ending, right? DLC skills and spotpass characters generally aren't considered part of nogrind, by the way. Getting them no exp and gold in the gate is considered no grinding. It was a runthrough without any training in the gate as well as funds. Edited May 3, 2014 by Barbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Getting them no exp and gold in the gate is considered no grinding. It was a runthrough without any training in the gate as well as funds. By you, maybe, but I doubt it's the general consensus among the community. Eh, I don't really care. Call it whatever you want, just keep in mind that most other people don't follow that particular convention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudedudedudeo Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Why not have him do it? I don't want my created character to give up his/her life for eternal disappearance of Grima. I'd recommend doing a playthrough with your avatar sacrificing him/herself. Or just redo endgame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) By you, maybe, but I doubt it's the general consensus among the community. Eh, I don't really care. Call it whatever you want, just keep in mind that most other people don't follow that particular convention. lol I never did say I was a master player as I'm not. I only play it in a way to my ability. Though I try to make it challenging as much as possible. Not all of us are high tier like you and Interceptor. xP Vanilla Lunatic...sure. I'll try it with no wireless features, but spotpass. But...+. Et uh. I may play on the vanilla Lunatic commonly(On classic as that usually is what I play FE's 12 and 13 on.), but if I'm to ever touch + Paragon and Casual will be authorized. Int clearly said that + is not for everyone. It isn't for me. Only advanced/expert players should ever touch it. -.- I'm no expert player. Only advanced as I've never touched Lunatic in FE12 either when H1 is to my level of skill. Difficult in FE's 9 and 10. Will do. :D Interceptor, your guide has helped a lot in getting past the BS that is Lunatic+ until the Outrealm Gate appears (heh, no shame). Glad to hear it; I don't judge. Lunatic+ is ridiculous, and everything is fair game when trying to beat it. Hee hee... I rest my case. Especially when Counter, Dragonskin, and...or Hawkeye+Luna+ combo absolutely breaks this game with a sledgehammer. Edited May 3, 2014 by Barbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 He wasn't saying that you should play any specific way (the majority of people aren't going to look down on you for deciding to fight fire with fire in order to beat Lunatic+), just that the term "no grind" as generally accepted by the community doesn't apply to your run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) He wasn't saying that you should play any specific way (the majority of people aren't going to look down on you for deciding to fight fire with fire in order to beat Lunatic+), just that the term "no grind" as generally accepted by the community doesn't apply to your run. No. It doesn't. It was more of an inflation of enjoying the mode for the first time as I doubt that it will ever happen with me playing it without wireless features. Edited May 3, 2014 by Barbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald Ink Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I just finished chapter 6 and now I'm torn on who mai husbando is gonna be for this run - Gaius or Stahl. I'm not going for optimal pairings (which is probably gonna come back to bite me in the ass later on, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it), but I don't want to support grind too much because a few of my units are dangerously close to level 20. I have managed to pick up one each of a master seal and a second seal, though. Current levels: Chrom - lvl 19 (married to Sumia) MU - lvl 17 Frederick - lvl 18 Lissa - lvl 13 Sully - lvl 19 Virion - lvl 16 Stahl - lvl 15 Vaike - lvl 16 Miriel - lvl 15 Sumia - lvl 16 (married to Chrom) Kellam - lvl 16 Lon'qu - lvl 15 Donnel - lvl 10 Ricken - lvl 11 Maribelle - lvl 6 Gaius - lvl 5 Panne - lvl 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 If you're using DLC and don't care about levels (or just don't want to waste exp), you can use Master Seals from Harvest Scramble and then Dread Scrolls/Wedding Bouquets to keep resetting your level. As for purely ingame utility, I'd advocate for Gaius because having a well-trained thief with a good place to hide makes chapters with chests a lot safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 (edited) If you're using DLC and don't care about levels (or just don't want to waste exp), you can use Master Seals from Harvest Scramble and then Dread Scrolls/Wedding Bouquets to keep resetting your level. As for purely ingame utility, I'd advocate for Gaius because having a well-trained thief with a good place to hide makes chapters with chests a lot safer. You can just reset DLC class level with a Second Seal. ----- It does make the game easier if they are a Bride, or Dreadfighter as they grow at an accelerated rate even without Veteran/Paragon. Edited May 7, 2014 by Barbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Can't buy Second Seals post-cht.6. If you want them in any sort of bulk quantity before post-Cht.12, you're at the mercy of the RNG (Merchants, Rift Doors and Outrealm villages). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 STUPID QUESTION TIME cuz its Loki's First Lunatic Run. I noticed some of the DLC like LB is a little...amped up in Lunatic but the Golden Pack and Scrambles arent. Does anyone know just which DLCs are affected by mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) As far as I know, the only ones that aren't buffed are the Golden Pack and Apo (well, one Warrior has a different forge on his Bow but that's it). Scrambles are buffed, in Harvest at least the Revenants have at least twice as much HP. Edited May 8, 2014 by Czar_Yoshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald Ink Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Yeah, the buff to the scramble maps is why I don't have more master seals. I tried to farm seeds of trust in the Summer Scramble and got my shit well and thoroughly wrecked - silver weapons, killer weapons, and powerful tomes all around, most of them forged, along with more hp and better overall stats. On Lunatic+ I imagine they have the same terrible cheap abilities as enemies in regular chapters do. I don't have the DLC that lets me get Dread Fighters or Brides, so that's not really an option, but I've passed chapter 8 now and have managed to get one more second seal and two more master seals, bringing my total up to 2 second seals and 3 master seals. Chrom and MU have hit level 20, but I don't mind wasting exp grinding on DLC maps, so it's not that big a deal. I'll promote them before I take on chapter 9 and just focus on supports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) Lunatic+ DLC only differs from regular Lunatic on FP3, everything else is just like Lunatic. Edited May 8, 2014 by Czar_Yoshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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