Wake Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Grima... was less epic than i expected. I like Lyon, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkymeet Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I still prefer FE4's story. It felt so much more cohesive and epic. I doubt they'll actually one-up that story due to certain... important plot elements that might not fly over so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Grima's appearance was awesome. But his story, not so much. Theres a lot one can do to one up him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 To answer your question, very easily. Doma was a more developed villain then Grima and he was from the NES Era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Its kinda funny how some of the most powerful bosses die the easiest. Idoun was probably around the same power level as Grima yet she died in two to three hits from Roy. ORKO'd by a well-trained Roy, 3HKO'd by base level Roy HELL YEAH ......who was the last final boss that was actually challenging? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Kamina Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 ORKO'd by a well-trained Roy, 3HKO'd by base level Roy HELL YEAH ......who was the last final boss that was actually challenging? Julius, if you don't use the Naga tome is fairly challenging imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Julius, if you don't use the Naga tome is fairly challenging imo. but it does exist that's like saying Ashnard is challenging if you don't use Wrath/Resolve, except even worse cause getting Naga is easier than setting that up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Kamina Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) but it does exist that's like saying Ashnard is challenging if you don't use Wrath/Resolve, except even worse cause getting Naga is easier than setting that up Yeah I know that, but I've never found a final boss in a FE game difficult aside from doing what I said earlier. Edited March 4, 2013 by Zelos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algae Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) I want to say Lyon, but unfortunately he's not the final final boss. However, the demon king possessed him, so by answering demon king, does this mean I also give mention to Lyon...? Seems like most of the games that have made it to the west have had a final boss with fairly poor development, but they made up for it by having a second-in-command whose presence was felt pretty much everywhere (Even if you had to dig for it). They probably could have gotten away with Grima being a mindless force of destruction if Validar wasn't. Edited March 4, 2013 by Alg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateborn Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I don't think Idoun was at the same power as Grima. I means seriously. Idoun is just a brain washed manakete and corrupted to the point where her powers are of darkness. Grima is just purely opposite of Naga. (My theory is that Grima is created from Naga's blood and corrupted long after Medusa's reawaken.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Lyon/ Demon King wasn't easy... But they weren't hard either, depending on how you lay the game. Now, if one abuses the tower, the whole game can become pathetically easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshineYON Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 In terms of character - easy, in terms of power level - easy. In terms of badassery of the last fight - well, they'll figure something out. Other than killing a god(FE10, also Naga specifically stated that Grima and Naga herself aren't gods), Grima's battle on top of a 500 meter long dragon at high speeds in the sky haven't been topped by the any of the previous installments. Also, the music, the final decision, and comraderie/power of friendship/never giving up/blah, blah was also top notch in the series as the last chapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked_Hunter1825 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Grima himself is pretty easy, even when healers get to him. If he had higher HP and perhaps some altered skills he'd be tougher. However like the above post says, the scenes, fight and music? That will be a lot harder to top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJP28 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Or by making a prequel to give him a backstory. Screw Grima I'd rather have a prequel to FE1, 4, and 7. I mean Anri, Baldo, and Hartmut would be more fun to play as than Naga. Grima boring no matter what they do to him. Who wouldn't want to play the chapter called miracle of Darna, and face the entire lopt clan with all of the crusaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Its kinda funny how some of the most powerful bosses die the easiest. Idoun was probably around the same power level as Grima yet she died in two to three hits from Roy. Gameplay and story segregation. Though we don't know the scale of just how strong her powers are. I don't think Idoun was at the same power as Grima. I means seriously. I agree. I think Medeus would be a better gauge for Idun's strength than Grima is. Edited March 7, 2013 by Little Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitheOfEvrark Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Lyon/ Demon King wasn't easy... But they weren't hard either, depending on how you lay the game. Now, if one abuses the tower, the whole game can become pathetically easy. Even without grinding, Demon King is pretty easily dispatched by Myrrh, Ephraim with Siegmund, Duessel with Garm or really any trained character with a Sacred Twin weapon. On that subject, I feel like the GBA era had some pretty pathetic final bosses. Idoun can be destroyed by Roy, Fire Dragon can be crushed by Athos with Luna... More on topic, I agree with what others have said that from a plot and challenge perspective, Grima isn't that hard to outdo. Honestly, having a final boss that simply is something besides a dragon could be considered one-upping Grima. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryptonite Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I felt that the final chapter was tough without grinding though. I had to drop my entire team and use the kids who ferried Lucina/Chrom/MU over to him and pray that every attack hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Grima's only easy on NM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateborn Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Grima's only easy on NM. He's easy on HM too, just bit tricky to get pass that warrior wall, otherwise, brave type weapons make short work of him in a turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 He's easy on HM too, just bit tricky to get pass that warrior wall, otherwise, brave type weapons make short work of him in a turn. easy on Lunatic+ too, get at me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 FE12 Medeus is probably the hardest final boss in the series due to the planning that goes into trading around Rescue/Again to recruit the Bishops and get Marth enough attacks to kill him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Meh, you don't even technically fight a dragon here; you just fight against his human vessel, atop the dragon's back. You fight yourself. "We've beaten dragons, demons, gods. Hell, I've even beat MYSELF to a bloody pulp. Nothing can surprise me anymore." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked_Hunter1825 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 If they make a sequel, they should let you fight Grima. Actual Grima. Not his puppet. Theres a challenge! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshineYON Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 The next game should be like Power Rangers where the bad guy becomes 50 stories tall. You and your team somehow project themselves into similar sized badasses and trample your way to victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algernon Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 FE12 Medeus is probably the hardest final boss in the series due to the planning that goes into trading around Rescue/Again to recruit the Bishops and get Marth enough attacks to kill him. That's still not saying much, considering you still wipe out Medeus in 1-2 turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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