Dwalin2010 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Since Gharnef wanted to get rid if Medeus after having used him, who do you think would have won? Would Gharnef have managed to do that or would Medeus be too tough for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitheOfEvrark Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Medeus can't use Starlight. Battle over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Medeus is also the dark dragon of doom. I wouldn't be surprised if he had some power that could have just torn through Gharnef's Imhullu spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fëanen Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 If we're talking Earth Dragon Medeus, I think Gharnef definitely had the upper hand. Though I'm still not sure how he intended to use Falchion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Well, didn't he managed to brainwash Tiki? Her Divinestone would've done the job just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Well, didn't he managed to brainwash Tiki? Her Divinestone would've done the job just fine. if this is FE12.....*looks at Medeus's stats* yeah, Tiki would get obliterated but seriously, gameplay mechanics aside, pretty sure Medeus could rip him up Grima eats both for breakfast though, just look at that size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 (edited) Tiki has infinite defense. Pretty sure Medeus couldn't damage her at all Anyway Medeus is immune to Magic and immune to far range attacks Its a matter of stalling that useless Imhullu which takes forever Make me wonder how broken Tiki and Bantu would be if they used EDS. Infinite Defense and unable to be attacked by Magic? Wow Edited April 7, 2013 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeaderR Elliot Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Obviously gharnef plans on using myrmidon Elice to kill Medeus gg medeus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Obviously gharnef plans on using myrmidon Elice to kill Medeus gg medeus. you mean gg Gharnef, her strength is so bad she couldn't even damage him with the Falchion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think Gharnef has the ability to wield Falchion, perhaps inherited by killing Marth's father. He wouldn't keep it on his person otherwise, he'd try to destroy it or get rid of it. If not, perhaps he can use his hypnosis and Elice's staff on a dead Falcion user, and/or use Tiki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 It's not possible for Gharnef to gain usage of the Falchion like that. The Falchion back then could only be used by the males of the bloodline. And I doubt a blood transfusion would work, or to be thought of anyway. And that rules out Elice either way. I know it was a joke, but still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) Wasn't the whole "only Altean royal males can use Falchion" thing a liberty taken by the localization? I mean, sure. Being an Altean royal, I can understand. But being gender-locked? Even when considering Lucy? Edited April 8, 2013 by Little Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 He wouldn't keep it on his person otherwise, he'd try to destroy it or get rid of it. Unless he's terminally stupid, which most villians in works of fiction tend to be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Unless he's terminally stupid, which most villians in works of fiction tend to be... well final bosses waiting towards the end to confront you is the biggest one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Wasn't the whole "only Altean royal males can use Falchion" thing a liberty taken by the localization? I mean, sure. Being an Altean royal, I can understand. But being gender-locked? Even when considering Lucy? Which is why I mentioned "back then". The circumstances of the Falchion tied to Marth's bloodline has changed over time, considering before there was no Mark of the Exalt and stuff. Which is most likely this happened back when Grima was first defeated by the First Exalt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Except where does it say only male Altean royals can use Falchion, and does it appear in the Japanese script? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Except where does it say only male Altean royals can use Falchion, and does it appear in the Japanese script? At the end of Chapter 7 of Shadow Dragon. Malledus delivers this line: You are Anri's last male descendant, the only one who can wield Falchion. You must find the blade that was taken, and put an end to Doluna and its misguided Manakete rulers. I don't know what the Japanese script says, but if it's the same thing, then the English translation didn't removed it. Edited April 9, 2013 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 At the end of Chapter 7 of Shadow Dragon. Malledus delivers this line: I don't know what the Japanese script says, but if it's the same thing, then the English translation didn't removed it. According to Vincent (and he seems more knowledgable about this stuff), the whole thing about male heirs to the Altean throne was abscent from the Japanese version of FE11, and was in fact a liberty taken by NoA in the localization. And judging from this quote. NOA suggested that only male heirs of Anri could wield the Falchion in Shadow Dragon, even though AFAIK this isn't stated in the Japanese version, and later we get a girl wielding Falchion in Awakening. I may not have access to the original script, but I think it's a pretty safe bet that Malladus's quote originally said "last descendant". And besides, who's to say Marth and his family didn't have any Naga blood inside their veins before Awakening happens? (Which may not be the same type of Naga blood that flows in Dierdre's and Julia's veins.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwalin2010 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 According to Vincent (and he seems more knowledgable about this stuff), the whole thing about male heirs to the Altean throne was abscent from the Japanese version of FE11, and was in fact a liberty taken by NoA in the localization. And judging from this quote. I may not have access to the original script, but I think it's a pretty safe bet that Malladus's quote originally said "last descendant". That's sad to hear, because it's always more pleasant to play a translation true to the original rather than having things made up that weren't there originally. Do you know if they took other liberties in the translation or this is the only serious one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 And besides, who's to say Marth and his family didn't have any Naga blood inside their veins before Awakening happens? (Which may not be the same type of Naga blood that flows in Dierdre's and Julia's veins.) Its actually implied in Awakening that Marth is a descendant of "maybe" Sigurd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 It's all NoA's fault that we have debates like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 if any heir could wield falchion why couldn't myrmidon elice use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 if any heir could wield falchion why couldn't myrmidon elice use it it's not like you ever get the chance to make elice a myrmidon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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