SSB4: SSB for Wii U and 3DS, maybe the NX and also your toaster!

[Florete]

Just what I was thinking.

God damn it, I do NOT want another Meta Knight.

At least it would make sense for a goddess...to be god-like.

[IceBrand]

At least it would make sense for a goddess...to be god-like.

Good God! Paluenta was broken even before reveal!

[Ninian]

Pegasus: "Let the party begin!"

[Carter]

This is what I'm guessing for her. Palutena ending like Zelda won't surprise me at all.

Also talking about Zelda and some about Shiek, I wonder what would Shiek's Final Smash would be? Since I guess Zelda is keeping her Light Arrow due that Samus kept her Laser Beam, and ZSS got a freaking awesome *shots fired* Final Smash.

Sheik's final smash is still the Light Arrow. I wish it was changed.

[Jave]

Instead of banning Palutena, wouldn't it be better to allow her with a non-OP moveset. Remember, she has 12 different special moves (And yes, I know that move is an Smash attack, but it takes more than a single move to ban a character).

[Comet]

Pikachu, in brawl and project m, could jump off stage, use thunder, and reverse the momentum so he could land back on stage and make a thunder wall over the edge while not being broken at all. I don't think this is a problem.

[Jotari]

Don't forget Snake's up Smash when fully charged reached about that height. I imagine this is a fully charged Up Smash and would be significantly smaller is used quickly.

[Anacybele]

I forgot about PIkachu, but I always found his Thunder to be annoying. xP

[PKL]

This is why this is just silly overreaction:

1. The move barely has any horizontal range and seems extremely punishable from the sides.

2. We haven't seen it in action, for all we know, the move works like Snake's usmash, the longer it's charged, the higher it goes. Maybe it has too much startup or endlag, maybe it doesnt kill and only works for juggling.

3. For something to truly be OP, it has to be like metaknight's tornado, virtually unpunishable in some matchups (this being crucial to being OP), spammable (when done right), does a lot of damage, range etc. I only see vertical range there. No horizontal range and people are already screaming MetaKnight 2.0.

I will only worry if her Forward Smash is exactly like this...but to the sides. Oh boy.

[shadowofchaos]

This is why this is just silly overreaction:

1. The move barely has any horizontal range and seems extremely punishable from the sides.

2. We haven't seen it in action, for all we know, the move works like Snake's usmash, the longer it's charged, the higher it goes. Maybe it has too much startup or endlag, maybe it doesnt kill and only works for juggling.

3. For something to truly be OP, it has to be like metaknight's tornado, virtually unpunishable in some matchups (this being crucial to being OP), spammable (when done right), does a lot of damage, range etc. I only see vertical range there. No horizontal range and people are already screaming MetaKnight 2.0.

I will only worry if her Forward Smash is exactly like this...but to the sides. Oh boy.

^Gameplay analysis

Listen to them people.

...but in other context.

Palutena for Goddess Tier.

[Comet]

So who do you guys think will be more stupid: Nana or Luma? I'm thinking it'll be Nana.

Edited July 8, 2014 by Comet

[solrocknroll]

So who do you guys think will be more stupid: Nana or Luma? I'm thinking it'll be Nana.

Depends on if you can wobble or infinite chain grab in this game.

[IceBrand]

I noticed that Toon Link's forward dash is still the same as Brawls(remember, Link has his changed but not TL). Also did anyone hear the remix of the N64 Smash player select theme? I heard it whenever a character wins a match.

[PKL]

Depends on if you can wobble or infinite chain grab in this game.

Here's to hoping they can't. Nana being unable to grab is all that's needed to fix Brawl's.

[Jedi]

I feel this is relevant

http://www.gonintendo.com/s/232709-zazzle-selling-masahiro-sakurai-legend-poster-in-game-screenshot-mosaic

[IceBrand]

Here's to hoping they can't. Nana being unable to grab is all that's needed to fix Brawl's.

I never knew Nana could grab as well. I guess that lead to infinite chain grabs?

[Jedi]

I never knew Nana could grab as well. I guess that lead to infinite chain grabs?

It takes some skill and desyncing but yes, She could always grab

[Jotari]

Nana not being able to grab isn't the problem. Chain grabs in general are the problem that needs to be removed.

[Jedi]

Cool video here

[IceBrand]

I wonder if some of the final smashes showed off from the veterans are place holders.

[Anacybele]

That's not ALL the victory scenes. Ike was left out. :(

Palutena and MIi were left out as well.

Edited July 8, 2014 by Anacybele

[Jedi]

That's not ALL the victory scenes. Ike was left out. :(

Palutena and MIi were left out as well.

It's all the people from the demo and Pac-Man from Sakurai's demonstration.

Minus Sonic

[Anacybele]

Toon Link wasn't available in the demo. Neither was Yoshi.

Oh, I just realized. Peach was absent from that video too. And regardless of reasons, it should still say SOME SSB4 victories, not ALL. Because it still isn't ALL of them. xP

Edited July 8, 2014 by Anacybele

[IceBrand]

Toon Link wasn't available in the demo. Neither was Yoshi.

They were in the 3DS version.

[Anacybele]

Oh. That I didn't know. But my point still stands, it wasn't ALL of the victory scenes, so it shouldn't say that it's all of them. xP