Esau of Isaac Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 You basically have to exploit it to get satisfactory results. Having to get hit to get hp, when my back row bow user's goal is to not get hit results in me having to go into battles just so I can hit myself, so I can get enough hp to stand a chance against some boss. Tedious shit like that is not fun. It's fine for leveling weapons and spells, but it ruins the other stats that use the system. I guess. I don't remember having to deal with this problem much even with guys standing in the back. I always had fun directing gains into areas that I desired. It felt more like the characters were getting stronger than just having incremental gains from battles to me. Speaking of tedious, they somehow managed to make dialogue conversations tedious too. Having to constantly check through with your key words is stupid. I wouldn't mind the battle system by itself, but add this stupid crap in too and it results in me not wanting to finish the game. I guess it was rough, but it was to me an interesting way of implementing a dialogue system that allowed for more input from the player. Keep in mind this was 1988 when this came around, it was kind of the prototype for models that we see today in many RPGs that allow for branching discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constable Reggie Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) I guess. I don't remember having to deal with this problem much even with guys standing in the back. I always had fun directing gains into areas that I desired. It felt more like the characters were getting stronger than just having incremental gains from battles to me. Again, great idea on paper, and it's pretty cool for weapons and spell power leveling, but don't implement every single stat (primarily hp and mp, and the ways to increase them) into that shit. I guess it was rough, but it was to me an interesting way of implementing a dialogue system that allowed for more input from the player. Keep in mind this was 1988 when this came around, it was kind of the prototype for models that we see today in many RPGs that allow for branching discussions. I'm sure they could have found a way to improve or streamline the system 20 years later in the upteenth remake. I don't want to pay 2008-standard money for 1988 bullshit, after all. It'd be like if Shadow Dragon kept Dark Dragon's outdated and frustating convoy system. Edited June 24, 2013 by Constable Reggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Again, great idea on paper, and it's pretty cool for weapons and spell power leveling, but don't implement every single stat (primarily hp and mp, and the ways to increase them) into that shit. But I liiiiiiiiiiiked it I'm sure they could have found a way to improve or streamline the system 20 years later in the upteenth remake. I don't want to pay 2008-standard money for 1988 bullshit, after all. It'd be like if Shadow Dragon kept Dark Dragon's outdated and frustating convoy system. But it's a poooooooooort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constable Reggie Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) But it's a poooooooooort a port of a game that's aged as well as an onion hurr Edited June 25, 2013 by Constable Reggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Yeah well my dad could beat up your dad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The topic is thisaway, boys The weapon system looks really grindy. Like, more grinding than what I'm willing to put in. Oh, speaking of grinding. . .IIRC, the enemies in 8 level with you. I'm not sure if this is a good thing for those that attempt FF efficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 It's pretty grindy later on. I mean, if you're trying to max out the weapon. The only part of the game that I would say is truly grindy is if you were try to max out Ultima's damage. But that's a very specific spell with truly specific requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shengar Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 FF3 (DS) was a bit boring for me. It's kind of grindy due to the way the job system works. The graphics were pretty nice, though. FF5 (GBA) is totally awesome; no storyline whatsoever, but the gameplay is totally fluid, and there's some interesting postgame stuff I never finished. FFT is also a lot of fun, though not as tactical as the title implies. The writing's pretty good, too. Don't get the PSP remake; the script will quite honestly make your eyes bleed. So, should I buy the original PS1 classic or the remake? I'm split between this. How much the difference actually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constable Reggie Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Get the remake unless you like unintentionally hilarious translations. That and WotL has some few extra cool things, like playable Delita maps in a few later chapters and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwall Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 While FFT vanilla had a few grammar fails, what little I've seen of WoTL is much more painful imo; maybe you should check out some YouTube footage of both games to see which you'd prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 WotL also fails at loading times. Original FFT has a classic translation which needs to be known, so many gems among the lines there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Get the remake unless you like unintentionally hilarious translations. Dude what? The original had such cool lines! I mean the new one's pretty good but the old one was classic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 l.i.t.t.l.e.m.o.n.e.y Don't blame us, blame yourselves or god! Animals have no god! I'm protecting Agrias! Geroooooonimo! Defeat Dycedarg's Elder Brother You heretics don't fear God! I'll fix you! Dammit! Your words are harsh! etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shengar Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 l.i.t.t.l.e.m.o.n.e.y Don't blame us, blame yourselves or god! Animals have no god! I'm protecting Agrias! Geroooooonimo! Defeat Dycedarg's Elder Brother You heretics don't fear God! I'll fix you! Dammit! Your words are harsh! etc. That really exceedingly hilarious line I've ever read. Should be the best thing ever said in FF series. But I choose this over that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 28, 2013 Author Share Posted June 28, 2013 I beat FF4 on the Virtual Console. It was too short but very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I beat FF4 on the Virtual Console. It was too short but very good. I'm not sure if the FF4 on DS has more stuff than the one on Virtual Console (I want to say yes, but I've played neither). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 28, 2013 Author Share Posted June 28, 2013 Did you play the PSP one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Did you play the PSP one? No, I didn't. I think this was the version my friend told me not to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 FF4 DS plays very different from the original because of the skill system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Im pretty sure the DS one is harder(using GBA as comparison) Mostly because Cecil does not have Dark Wave at the start >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I'd say DS is the easiest version because of the Draw Attacks augment. Beating Zeromus is also really unreliable in the original with Big Bang damage, but in the DS version you can easily manage to beat him in like 5 minutes with Berserk/Hastemarch. That's not even saying anything about how broken the Phoenix augment is... You need to try really hard to lose those endgame battles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 The early game is pretty rough IMO I only played the GBA version, so I dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkbubblegum Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 VI is my personal favorite out of all of them, but seeing as you've played it already...I enjoyed IX greatly! It wasn't received all too well by a lot of people (For some reason?) but it's a really endearing and charming game. I actually stopped in disk 3 sometime in grade school and was never able to finish it. I think I'll replay it... I think X's also pretty underrated. You know, in general, I think a lot of the newer FFs receive quite a lot of backlash o: As long as you go in and play them with an open mind, they're all pretty enjoyable in their own right. I don't understand why people have to constantly gripe how it's so different from their favorite FF. As far as I know, there's no staple equation to what makes a Final Fantasy game Final Fantasy xD; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Lightning Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 VI is my personal favorite out of all of them, but seeing as you've played it already... I enjoyed IX greatly! It wasn't received all too well by a lot of people (For some reason?) but it's a really endearing and charming game. I actually stopped in disk 3 sometime in grade school and was never able to finish it. I think I'll replay it... I think X's also pretty underrated. You know, in general, I think a lot of the newer FFs receive quite a lot of backlash o: As long as you go in and play them with an open mind, they're all pretty enjoyable in their own right. I don't understand why people have to constantly gripe how it's so different from their favorite FF. As far as I know, there's no staple equation to what makes a Final Fantasy game Final Fantasy xD; Sadly, some people nowadays don't have very open minds to try new or other stuff. I mean, I'll be the first to admit that when I think Final Fantasy, I want to play an old school fantasy rpg; it's sorta why I guess FF13 (very futuristic-y) didn't draw me in as much like FF9 and FF10 did (and perhaps why I've been stalling on playing FF8). Still, as someone who likes certain entries in the series, I feel that I should give each of them an equal try, despite whatever pre-conceived notions I might have. Its why I'm looking forward to eventually playing FF15 (when I have the money), even if its more of a modernish Final Fantasy than what I prefer. Backlash is sometimes unavoidable, but people should remember to be courteous to others since I would imagine each game has it's fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 FF9 wasn't entirely 'classic' either - for example it introduced the really obnoxious system of learning skills via equipment that also migrated to FFTA1&2, much to my chagrin. And when FF2, the second game in the series, is acknowledged as standing out with its twist for its 'levelling' - just what is 'classic' anyway? I think 'classic FF' refers to some sort of similarity to another series - namely Dragon Quest. I could never enjoy any of these games (though I hear that the eighth one is excellent but I've never found it in shops sadly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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