Zerker Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) For optimality, Lissa/Owain gets the short end of the stick in this Lunatic+ file, and I have yet to pick a Father for Owain yet. The Father pool consists of Kellam, Libra, and Virion. Please base your answers on Maximum Stat Modifiers, and Skills & Classes available to Owain. Disregard context of the supports, hair colors, and biased opinions because of character hate/favoritism. Here's a visual: Edited July 14, 2013 by Ƶerker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Kamina Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I'd say either Virion or Libra would be ideal for Owain at this point, but in terms of modifers I'm leaning more towards Virion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULTRA PRODIGY NUXL Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Libra, NosTank is awesome and he gets a good magic mod. Virion and Kellam don't give enough strength for him to be good, while Libra is actually one of his best fathers for optimal play, believe it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Libra, giving Owain Sorc allows him to not die, also his magic can get slightly higher because of Libra's stat mods. Unless you feel like you won't be damaging things enough, then Kellam will probably the better father since he can then access luna. I'd still go with Libra just for Sorc though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Galeforce Boy with Vantage? Hello, I'm a Leadboy. Virion doesn't give a better activation than the ones that he already has (Astra/Lethality) Kellam's mods throw off Owain's, and skew him badly. He does get Luna out of it though. Libra gives him Vengeance and lets him run VVW in full. Hell, Vantage/Vengeance is good on its own. DEFINITELY LIBRA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Kellam because he's the only one with LUNA. His mag mod is neutral, so he won't hinder owain's. The speed is bad, but whatever, at least is better than virion that doesn't give absolutely nothing special. Libra can also work, if you want a vantage-vengeance sorcerer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Kellam for offense. Libra for defense. Virion for all around mediocrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I'd go with Virion for TRIPLE BREAKERS and Vantage on top of it all. It also gives Owain the option of going magical, if he so chooses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeoandReo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 All of them are pretty decent for fathering Owain. Virion's okay even just for the mods, though I'd probably narrow it down to Kellam or Libra meaning Galeforce+Luna vs. Vantage Sorcerer with like Tomefaire or something. Keep in mind that if you're having Libra father him, Dark Mage is really the only tree he gets, since Priest already has Sage, though Kellam's pretty much the same situation for only giving Knight because Myrmidon largely obsoletes Thief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 It kind of depends on the rest of your team... Libra for another tank, or Kellam for a sweeper (which thanks to Galeforce+Assassin he's well equipped for). Also consider the skills he's going to be using, to help you decide. Limit Breaker Galeforce Aggressor Luna/Vengeance Dual Guard+/Vantage The VV combo is more rare than GF+Luna so I give the slight edge to Libra. If it were me, however, my bias toward Luna would actually make me choose Kellam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerker Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Oh... If you need to see the rest of my team, then here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Kellam, so that Owain can run around being heroic, and never get noticed. If you were doing Chrom x Sumia then certainly Kellam, because Lissa x Kellam is about pies as well. In all seriousness, Libra for magic, Kellam for Luna, Virion for hair. Since you said elsewhere you probably want a Dread Fighter, that means mixed, so... Damn, I don't have a great answer. I would lean towards Kellam for Luna, because Sorcerer bores me, and Virion basically only breakers and hair (and much better mods...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I like Kellam because it gives Owain black hair and Luna is a very nifty skill to have. -2 SPD is barely noticable, at least for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Libra, easily. A sorcerer with (Wrath+)Vengeance+Vantage is just too good to pass up. Make Owain your Sorcerer and keep his book hand at bay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularity Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Oh shush, people picked Libra because of Sorc. I'd rather not marry him instead than being doomed to be a Sorc tool. I'm pretty much all-out against Sorc, and Sage could utilize VVW better since Sage has lower defenses and moar Magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Libra because magic mod and access to sorc (sorry War Cleric) If you want all around, Libra-fathered Owain still makes an amazing dread fighter with aggressor or dark knight. Oh... If you need to see the rest of my team, then here: On a side note, how did you make this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerker Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 On a side note, how did you make this? Using this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9xrw72ws8obo77k/FEA%20Shipping%20Grid.zip?m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Oh shush, people picked Libra because of Sorc. I'd rather not marry him instead than being doomed to be a Sorc tool. I'm pretty much all-out against Sorc, and Sage could utilize VVW better since Sage has lower defenses and moar Magic. I voted Libra for Vengeance itself, and use Libra!Owain myself... not a Sorc/Nosfertank, but as a Sage using VVW and Celica's.... >_>;; Vengeance is an awesome skill, BTW. Activation that hits 100%, adds just as much, if not more in certain cases Damage as Luna, and has great synergy with Vantage, which is by far the best defensive skill in the game. But you need Sorc to get it. Edited July 15, 2013 by Airship Canon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerker Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 I'm honestly surprised people are picking Libra the most. He's the worst out of all them since of his meh stat mods and serious class overlapping, IMO ಠ_ಠQuote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I'm honestly surprised people are picking Libra the most. He's the worst out of all them since of his meh stat mods and serious class overlapping, IMO ಠ_ಠSorc/Vengeance access EASILY outdoes anything the others have to offer. Realize that Libra is one of Owain's most optimal fathers. Hell, I'd say he remains as the most optimal, due to Vengeance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Class overlap doesn't matter when you get an amazing class like Sorcerer, the class able to use Dark magic and has Vengeance/Tomebreaker. With Virion you can get the wyvern tree but his stat mods are so incredibly meh. Kellam gets Luna, which is great, too bad he fucks up all of the stat mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerker Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Sorc/Vengeance access EASILY outdoes anything the others have to offer. Realize that Libra is one of Owain's most optimal fathers. Hell, I'd say he remains as the most optimal, due to Vengeance. Are you just trolling?... Again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) Are you just trolling?... Again? Not in the least. And what? If you're referring to my hate of Armsthrift, no, that's real. I'm -not- trolling with that. Edited July 16, 2013 by Airship Canon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I'd say Kellam because GK is one of the best classes in the game to have for optimization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerker Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 If you're referring to my hate of Armsthrift, no, that's real. I'm -not- trolling with that. How is Armsthrift related to this at all? None of the fathers left have the option of Mercenary. Anyways, I don't really understand what all the hype is about with Sorcerer. It seems really overrated to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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