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Things in the Fates meta that look bannable?  

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  1. 1. (tick many) What looks bannable in the Fates meta?

    • Dragon Ward (Hoshido Noble)
    • Life or Death (Master of Arms)
    • Counter (Oni Chieftain)
    • Darting Blow (Sky Knight)
    • Multiple Amaterasu (Kinshi Knight)
    • Wary Fighter (General)
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    • Inspiration (Strategist)
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    • Aggressor (Dread Fighter)
    • Galeforce (Dark Falcon)
    • Awakening (Great Lord)
    • Dancing Blade (Lodestar)
    • Ban ALL DLC/Amiibo skills.
    • Other (state what)
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It's really odd how inaccurate a Brave Lance attack is in Resolve mode. Didn't see that coming. Rolf did have +15 avo from supports though.

Well, that was definitely fun! Thanks to Hawkeye for running the game and Elieson for playing!

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Espinosa's Team:

tpz7.png cq4w.pngplz9.png3jbw.pngudry.png

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Hawkeye's Team:

e8dv.pnghrwh.pngnsud.pngprk8.pngsxd5.png

Turn 17

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Espinosa's Oscar (Wishblade) attacks Hawkeye's Tibarn (unequipped)!

11 dmg 75% Hit 0% Crit 26% Skill

(58 5 32 12)

(23)

Oscar activates Sol!

Tibarn guards against Oscar's attack!

Both sides survive the fight!

Espinosa

Ike 0/52 haxed

Oscar 33/49

Makalov owned

Brom 0/55

Tibarn 35/66 (20/20)

Hawkeye

Tibarn 49/66 (0/20)

Ike 52/52

Gatrie 0/59

Ilyana 0/39

Oscar fell

Hawkeye acts next!

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I think it's evident the royals are way too good compared to normal units.

Nah, you're just naturally reluctant to either hit them or hit things with them. Next match, we could test a team with one royal vs. a team with 2-3 of them and see how things go. Obviously, one royal will be suicidal and just attack things wildly since only one can equip the Laguz Band for the later turns.

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Espinosa's Team:

tpz7.png cq4w.pngplz9.png3jbw.pngudry.png

vs

Hawkeye's Team:

e8dv.pnghrwh.pngnsud.pngprk8.pngsxd5.png

Turn 18

udry.pngvs hrwh.png

Hawkeye's Ike (Ragnell) attacks Espinosa's Tibarn (Talon)!

14 dmg 74% Hit 27% Skill

(85 28 34)

(87)

Tibarn receives 14 damage!

Both sides survive the fight!

Espinosa

Ike 0/52 haxed

Oscar 33/49

Makalov owned

Brom 0/55

Tibarn 21/66 (20/20)

Hawkeye

Tibarn 49/66 (6/20)

Ike 52/52

Gatrie 0/59

Ilyana 0/39

Oscar fell

Hawkeye acts next!

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Espinosa's Team:

tpz7.png cq4w.pngplz9.png3jbw.pngudry.png

vs

Hawkeye's Team:

e8dv.pnghrwh.pngnsud.pngprk8.pngsxd5.png

Turn 19

cq4w.pngvs e8dv.png

Espinosa's Oscar (Wishblade) attacks Hawkeye's Tibarn (unequipped)!

11 dmg 75% Hit 0% Crit 26% Skill

(97 45 30 46)

(41)

Tibarn receives 11 damage!

Both sides survive the fight!

Espinosa

Ike 0/52 haxed

Oscar 33/49

Makalov owned

Brom 0/55

Tibarn 21/66 (20/20)

Hawkeye

Tibarn 38/66 (8/20)

Ike 52/52

Gatrie 0/59

Ilyana 0/39

Oscar fell

Hawkeye acts next!

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Espinosa's Team:

tpz7.png cq4w.pngplz9.png3jbw.pngudry.png

vs

Hawkeye's Team:

e8dv.pnghrwh.pngnsud.pngprk8.pngsxd5.png

Turn 20

udry.pngvs hrwh.png

Hawkeye's Ike (Ragnell) attacks Espinosa's Tibarn (Talon)!

14 dmg 74% Hit 27% Skill

(17 81 34)

(27)

Tibarn guards against Ike's attack!

Both sides survive the fight!

Espinosa

Ike 0/52 haxed

Oscar 33/49

Makalov owned

Brom 0/55

Tibarn 21/66 (20/20)

Hawkeye

Tibarn 38/66 (12/20)

Ike 52/52

Gatrie 0/59

Ilyana 0/39

Oscar fell

Espinosa acts next!

Also, can you guys kill each other already? >_>

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Espinosa's Team:

tpz7.png cq4w.pngplz9.png3jbw.pngudry.png

vs

Hawkeye's Team:

e8dv.pnghrwh.pngnsud.pngprk8.pngsxd5.png

Turn 21

cq4w.pngvs e8dv.png

Espinosa's Oscar (Wishblade) attacks Hawkeye's Tibarn (unequipped)!

11 dmg 75% Hit 0% Crit 26% Skill

(81 38 86 41)

(73)

Tibarn receives 11 damage!

Both sides survive the fight!

Espinosa

Ike 0/52 haxed

Oscar 33/49

Makalov owned

Brom 0/55

Tibarn 21/66 (20/20)

Hawkeye

Tibarn 27/66 (14/20)

Ike 52/52

Gatrie 0/59

Ilyana 0/39

Oscar fell

Hawkeye acts next!

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Espinosa's Team:

tpz7.png cq4w.pngplz9.png3jbw.pngudry.png

vs

Hawkeye's Team:

e8dv.pnghrwh.pngnsud.pngprk8.pngsxd5.png

Turn 22

udry.pngvs hrwh.png

Hawkeye's Ike (Ragnell) attacks Espinosa's Tibarn (Talon)!

14 dmg 74% Hit 27% Skill

(3 27 15)

(15)

Tibarn guards against Ike's attack!

Both sides survive the fight!

Espinosa

Ike 0/52 haxed

Oscar 33/49

Makalov owned

Brom 0/55

Tibarn 21/66 (20/20)

Hawkeye

Tibarn 27/66 (18/20)

Ike 52/52

Gatrie 0/59

Ilyana 0/39

Oscar fell

Espinosa acts next!

Stop GUARDING ugh.

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Hawkeye's Ilyana got crazy lucky Rexbolt procs.

His Ilyana-centered team is way better than mine, since I didn't even think to nuke Refa's team with Rexbolt.

When we play Ilyana vs Ilyana (could be combined with the multiple royal idea), we'll see how many turns each player takes with Ilyana and how many with the other units. If Ilyana just performs all the actions while everybody else waits for a counterattack (as she should), this could serve as a predicament to either ban Shade entirely or only make it work when there are 2 or more allies alive (perhaps make Shinon with Provoke not count).

Because as you saw, what happens during the early turns is quite important and decides what the endgame even looks like. I wouldn't mind having an Ike of my own right now.

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I think I'll send you another team later, Espinosa. I want to try something crazy.

When we play Ilyana vs Ilyana (could be combined with the multiple royal idea), we'll see how many turns each player takes with Ilyana and how many with the other units. If Ilyana just performs all the actions while everybody else waits for a counterattack (as she should), this could serve as a predicament to either ban Shade entirely or only make it work when there are 2 or more allies alive (perhaps make Shinon with Provoke not count).

Because as you saw, what happens during the early turns is quite important and decides what the endgame even looks like. I wouldn't mind having an Ike of my own right now.

I see. I voted that Shade shouldn't be banned (as it'll make Ilyana worse than the other sages), but hey, we'll have to see.

And yeah, haha. You got pretty damn screwed earlier on. At least your Tibarn isn't going down without a fight right now.

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Espinosa's Team:

tpz7.png cq4w.pngplz9.png3jbw.pngudry.png

vs

Hawkeye's Team:

e8dv.pnghrwh.pngnsud.pngprk8.pngsxd5.png

Turn 23

udry.pngvs e8dv.png

Espinosa's Tibarn (Talon) attacks Hawkeye's Tibarn (unequipped)!

20 dmg 100% Hit 0% Crit 37% Skill

(24 22 94)

(43)

Hawkeye's Tibarn receives 20 damage!

Both sides survive the fight!

Espinosa

Ike 0/52 haxed

Oscar 33/49

Makalov owned

Brom 0/55

Tibarn 21/66 (20/20)

Hawkeye

Tibarn 7/66 (20/20)

Ike 52/52

Gatrie 0/59

Ilyana 0/39

Oscar fell

Hawkeye's Tibarn transforms!

Hawkeye acts next!

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I think I'll send you another team later, Espinosa. I want to try something crazy.

I see. I voted that Shade shouldn't be banned (as it'll make Ilyana worse than the other sages), but hey, we'll have to see.

And yeah, haha. You got pretty damn screwed earlier on. At least your Tibarn isn't going down without a fight right now.

You can send me teams you want to discuss, but better not if you end up playing me (even if you change things around after showing it to me, what I learnt from looking at it will affect my decisions during the game). PKL said he wanted to play, so you two could have a rematch.

Finding a player seems pretty hard right now (we've waited like a week or two for another match to start) and about as hard as finding a mediator was a month back, so I'm always game for more fun experiences and testing, but I won't be botting any more games until second half of January. Can't afford it time-wise, and unlike being a player you can't multi-task botting with other things you have to do.

The other Sages are pretty much unplayable; the main question right now is whether the Top Tier will ever feature a female unit (Mia/Marcia/Tanith/Ena aren't too appealing), a caster (your best alternative is magical weapons) or if Shade's usage specifics should be limited not to make Ilyana the key unit when it comes to winning games. Right now, every team should pretty much feature Ike and Ilyana (though if Gatrie stops appearing entirely, Ilyana could also stop being essential).

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You can send me teams you want to discuss, but better not if you end up playing me (even if you change things around after showing it to me, what I learnt from looking at it will affect my decisions during the game). PKL said he wanted to play, so you two could have a rematch.

Finding a player seems pretty hard right now (we've waited like a week or two for another match to start) and about as hard as finding a mediator was a month back, so I'm always game for more fun experiences and testing, but I won't be botting any more games until second half of January. Can't afford it time-wise, and unlike being a player you can't multi-task botting with other things you have to do.

The other Sages are pretty much unplayable; the main question right now is whether the Top Tier will ever feature a female unit (Mia/Marcia/Tanith/Ena aren't too appealing), a caster (your best alternative is magical weapons) or if Shade's usage specifics should be limited not to make Ilyana the key unit when it comes to winning games. Right now, every team should pretty much feature Ike and Ilyana (though if Gatrie stops appearing entirely, Ilyana could also stop being essential).

Tell me about it >_>. It's about as annoying as it is fun...but now it's just annoying because of Tibarn. Ban Tibarn.

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