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Things in the Fates meta that look bannable?  

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  1. 1. (tick many) What looks bannable in the Fates meta?

    • Dragon Ward (Hoshido Noble)
    • Life or Death (Master of Arms)
    • Counter (Oni Chieftain)
    • Darting Blow (Sky Knight)
    • Multiple Amaterasu (Kinshi Knight)
    • Wary Fighter (General)
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    • Inspiration (Strategist)
      0
    • Aggressor (Dread Fighter)
    • Galeforce (Dark Falcon)
    • Awakening (Great Lord)
    • Dancing Blade (Lodestar)
    • Ban ALL DLC/Amiibo skills.
    • Other (state what)
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Randa's Team:

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Berserker General General Great Knight Warrior

X-Naut's Team:

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Hero Sage Great Lord Wyvern Knight Swordmaster

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Randa's Amelia (Dragon Axe) attacks X-Naut's Tana (Vidofnir)!

42 dmg, 57 hit, 0 crit

(32 19 23)

Tana receives 42 damage!

Tana counterattacks!

21 dmg, 99 hit, 0 crit, 20 skill

(45)

(99 93 71 45)

Amelia receives 21 damage!

Both sides survive the fight!

Randa's Team:
Dozla 59/59

Amelia 28/49

Gilliam 60/60

Franz 53/53

Garcia 59/59

X-Naut's Team:

Gerik 60/60

Saleh 40/40

Eirika 47/47

Tana 4/46

Marisa 53/53

X-Naut acts next!

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Please give my calculations a quick check, because i'm using a formula i made on thursday.

although obviously supports and stuff will throw it off a bit, so idk

Edited by Hawkeye
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Turn 14


[spoiler=Teams and Rules]

Espinosa's team
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VS

ZeeEmm's team
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Ruleset:
- Maximum Stats meta, no boosters, no custom skills
- Shade active until 2 members have fallen, Provoke always active
- GBA-style counter
- NOJ Effectiveness (3x)


The Transformation Gauge belonging to ZeeEmm's Lethe has increased by 4. Lethe's Gauge is at 4/20.

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ZeeEmm's Astrid (Wishblade) attacks Espinosa's Brom (Vague Katti)!

Astrid		Brom
Atk-10		Atk-16
Hit-94		Hit-70
Crt-0		Crt-5
Ski-26		Ski-27

Astrid- (54 40 77 72)

Brom- (74 14 97 36)

Brom receives 10 damage!

Brom counters!

Astrid receives 16 damage.

--Result--

Current HP (Espinosa's Team)
Ike: 0/60
Boyd: 32/60
Brom: 35/60
Nephenee: 0/59
Ena: 72/72

Current HP (ZeeEmm's Team)

Makalov: 0/60
Astrid: 34/56

Jill: 60/60
Haar: 0/60
Lethe: 8/68


Turn 14 Ends. Espinosa performs next.

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If an RN check for a crit or skill proc is identical to the crit/skill of a unit, does it occur? Or, must the RN be "Less Than" crit/skill in order to occur?

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(I think that we should petition for a sub-forum under General Fire Emblem, called Fire Emblem Arena, and operate it like the FE Debates subforum, by hosting battles in seperate threads, so we can maintain discussion in a primary discussion thread and keep battles seperate (easier to host and organize, etc).)

Edit: Less Than, not Less Than or Equal To. Awesome, thanks for the protip. Haven't run into it yet, but I may someday.

Edited by Elieson
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You're good Hawkeye, I ran the numbers and unless Amelia has some unknown second support that's exactly what I got.

EDIT: Actually I think you forgot to factor in Amelia's Defense (I'm assuming it's +2 or +3), although that wouldn't change anything even if Eirika didn't critical.

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Please give my calculations a quick check, because i'm using a formula i made on thursday.

although obviously supports and stuff will throw it off a bit, so idk

You're good Hawkeye, I ran the numbers and unless Amelia has some unknown second support that's exactly what I got.

The numbers look right. And yeah Amelia only has the one obvious support.

(I think that we should petition for a sub-forum under General Fire Emblem, called Fire Emblem Arena, and operate it like the FE Debates subforum, by hosting battles in seperate threads, so we can maintain discussion in a primary discussion thread and keep battles seperate (easier to host and organize, etc).)

Edit: Less Than, not Less Than or Equal To. Awesome, thanks for the protip. Haven't run into it yet, but I may someday.

I think that's actually a pretty solid idea. That way we also don't have five matches going on in the same thread at the same time. And the host can find the decisions quicker. Also I think we should put a list of willing hosts and the times they are available in the original post for future matches. Edited by Randa
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Randa's Team:

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Berserker General General Great Knight Warrior

X-Naut's Team:

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Hero Sage Great Lord Wyvern Knight Swordmaster

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X-Naut's Eirika (Rapier) attacks Randa's Amelia (Dragon Axe)!

27 dmg, 100 hit, 19 crit

(40)

(27 9 7)

Critical hit! Amelia receives 81 damage!

Amelia has been killed!


Randa's Team:
Dozla 59/59

Amelia 0/49

Gilliam 60/60

Franz 53/53

Garcia 59/59

X-Naut's Team:

Gerik 60/60

Saleh 40/40

Eirika 47/47

Tana 4/46

Marisa 53/53

Randa acts next!

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A sub-forum would probably be asking for too much from the SF staff at this point, considering the number of people involved in this. I was thinking maybe a battle thread and a discussion thread would be better.

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Turn 15

[spoiler=Teams and Rules]

Espinosa's team
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VS

ZeeEmm's team
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Ruleset:
- Maximum Stats meta, no boosters, no custom skills
- Shade active until 2 members have fallen, Provoke always active
- GBA-style counter
- NOJ Effectiveness (3x)


The Transformation Gauge belonging to Espinosa's Ena has decreased by 3. Ena's Gauge is at 8/20.

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Espinosa's Boyd (Silver Axe+) attacks ZeeEmm's Astrid (Wishblade)!

Boyd		Astrid
Atk-30		Atk-13
Hit-100		Hit-71
Crt-0		Crt-0
Ski-28		Ski-26

Boyd- (76 98 88 76)
Astrid- (44 13 13 1)

Astrid receives 24 damage!

Astrid counters!

Astrid activates Sol!

Boyd receives 13 damage.

Astrid recovers 13 HP.

--Result--

Current HP (Espinosa's Team)
Ike: 0/60
Boyd: 22/60
Brom: 35/60
Nephenee: 0/59
Ena: 72/72

Current HP (ZeeEmm's Team)

Makalov: 0/60
Astrid: 17/56
Jill: 60/60
Haar: 0/60
Lethe: 8/68


Turn 15 Ends. ZeeEmm performs next.

Edited by Elieson
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Wait, I thought the Vague Katti can't attack from 1-2 range.

Using GBA LA Mechanics, Weapons that strike at 1~2 range counter everything (bar Seige Tomes)

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I think it would probably just wind up like the MMO forum or the debate forum. Low matinence but convinent. Though the two thread idea would probably work as well.

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[spoiler=see teams here]

SB's team

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Warrior!Garcia, General!Amelia, Ranger!Neimi, Paladin!Franz, Paladin!Seth

vs.

Nicolas's team!

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Wyvern Knight!Vanessa, Sage!Moulder, Mage Knight!Lute, Great Knight!Kyle, Assassin!Colm

Turn 12.

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Nicolas's Moulder (Ivaldi) attacks SB's Franz (Runesword)!

30 dmg 87% hit 10% crit

(14 84 58)

Franz receives 30/52 damage!

Franz counterattacks!

13 dmg 40% hit 0% crit

(68 2 70)

Moulder receives 13/49 damage!

Franz recovers 13/52 HP!

Both sides survive the fight.

Stats:

SB

Garcia 0/59

Amelia 0/49

Neimi 0/40

Franz 23/52

Seth 0/47

Nicolas

Vanessa 19/39

Moulder 36/49

Lute 0/37

Kyle 0/59

Colm 49/49

SB acts next!

Edited by Espinosa
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Randa's Team:

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Berserker General General Great Knight Warrior

X-Naut's Team:

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Hero Sage Great Lord Wyvern Knight Swordmaster

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Randa's Dozla (Swordslayer) attacks X-Naut's Marisa (Lancereaver)!

42 dmg, 16 hit, 0 crit

(49 97 37)

Dozla misses!

Marisa counterattacks!

12x2 dmg, 100 hit, 34 crit

(23 47 16)

Critical hit! Dozla receives 36 damage!

(1 83 78)

Dozla receives 12 damage!

Both sides survive the fight!


Randa's Team:
Dozla 11/59

Amelia 0/49

Gilliam 60/60

Franz 53/53

Garcia 59/59

X-Naut's Team:

Gerik 60/60

Saleh 40/40

Eirika 47/47

Tana 4/46

Marisa 53/53

X-Naut acts next!

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Turn 16

[spoiler=Teams and Rules]

Espinosa's team
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VS

ZeeEmm's team
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Ruleset:
- Maximum Stats meta, no boosters, no custom skills
- Shade active until 2 members have fallen, Provoke always active
- GBA-style counter
- NOJ Effectiveness (3x)


The Transformation Gauge belonging to ZeeEmm's Lethe has increased by 4. Lethe's Gauge is at 8/20.

iqfw.png vs. tq2g.png

ZeeEmm's Astrid (Brave Bow) attacks Espinosa's Boyd (Silver Axe+) !


Astrid		Boyd
Atk-9		Atk-X
Hit-68		Hit-X
Crt-0		Crt-X
Ski-26		Ski-X

Astrid- (72 77 51 6)
(88 30 82 41)

Astrid misses.

Astrid attacks again.

Boyd receives 9 damage.

--Result--

Current HP (Espinosa's Team)
Ike: 0/60
Boyd: 13/60
Brom: 35/60
Nephenee: 0/59
Ena: 72/72

Current HP (ZeeEmm's Team)

Makalov: 0/60
Astrid: 17/56
Jill: 60/60
Haar: 0/60
Lethe: 8/68


Turn 16 Ends. Espinosa performs next.

Edited by Elieson
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