StinDuh Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Is Donnel worth keeping as a villager until level 30? Currently on my save-file, he's level 19 at Chapter 12. He has pretty good stats, but looking at his caps, he's going to cap most of the important ones before getting to level 30. He's already capped speed at a mere 19. That's really low if I have to train him for 11 more levels... Anyway, what do you guys normally do with Donnel? Keep him as a villager until level 30 and Reclass him into a promoted unit? Reclass him the moment he levels up to 15 and learns his second skill? What class do you usually make him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Skittles Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 definitely not. he gets huge boosts when reclassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hero is calling for him Make him a Merc first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinDuh Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 This is my third play of Awakening but the first time I decided to use Donnel. I guess the last two times I just wasn't committed to making use of his epic gains.... But yeah, I think I was leaning towards reclassing but just wanted a few more inputs to the situation. Mercenary seems like a good choice for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hell no. It's like keeping Ross as a Journeyman, [not super Journeyman]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 In short no, he benefits massively from the gains he gets from reclassing and villager caps are generally pretty horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 It's best to reclass at either 10 (to get to Merc as quickly as possible) or 15 (to get Underdog and then Merc without wasting time in Villager). Villager growths are pretty bad (seriously, they're 55% total growths lower than Merc), Donnel can't use lances outside of Villager, the caps are low and Donnel will likely start capping stuff at 15/10 anyway and want to take an earlyish Master Seal. Since mercenary gives Armsthrift, which is awesome on Donnel, and Patience + Underdog gives him considerable avoid, it's not worth going through to level 30 and then straight to Hero. It'd likely take longer, too, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I usually take him to Villager Lv.2 and then ditch him because he's utterly helpless in Lunatic(+), but if you want to use him then Tables' advice is sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'd reccomend getting him to Level 15, then making him a Mercenary. It's what I did. Give him armsthrift and a forged Leif's Blade once he's a hero and he'd be able to benefit from both with his high LCK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byte2222 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 As previously stated, you want Donnel out of villager as soon as possible. Since you've learned underdog, you should reclass him, he needs to become a mercenary. There's nothing Donnel can do in villager that he can't do better in mercenary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Do note that Donnel tends to cap his stats quickly when turned to Merc. (Which you should do because he makes one of the best Armsthrift users.) So you might see some green numbers at around level 13 Merc. (my last Donnel promoted at level 13 Merc because caps) Donnel wants to be a Hero. Make him one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) Only after I've reclassed him and maxed him in all other stats. Then yes, because it's funny, and I prefer him as a villager. Although, no, not really. Reclass him asap. Shame he doesn't have a lance reclass, though. Edited January 4, 2014 by Dai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 What everyone said already. But if you are a stickler for original classes like me... YOLOOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Rey, i think you may have to explain that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 He gave Donnel Limit Break, capped his Skl with Secret Books and gave him enough Seraph Robes to take a hit from the boss, and manipulated a crit to kill him, but didn't level up so he's not recruited. Even though he killed the boss. I wonder what happens if Donnel kills a bunch of stuff with Paragon and reaches Lv.30 (he'd probably need some pokes as well), but right before clearing the map he Second Seals back to Villager Lv.1. Will he still be recruited? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I wonder what happens if Donnel kills a bunch of stuff with Paragon and reaches Lv.30 (he'd probably need some pokes as well), but right before clearing the map he Second Seals back to Villager Lv.1. Will he still be recruited? There's not enough exp for that. If it was normal mode and there was a health restoring tile on the map, it might have been possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 What if he Second Seals to Mercenary at Lv.10 and then Second Seals back to Villager at Lv.10 again? I have a Normal file on Par.1 right now, actually. I believe I'll try this anyway. First I'll need a lot of Logs/Branches for poking, and a Pass unit to break all the weapons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skynstein Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Donnel's caps as villager suck anyway, he's useless as a combat unit until reclassed. I have a hunch that the game will still recognize Donnel's level ups despite being thrown back to Lv1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinDuh Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 http://serenesforest.net/fe13/calculation.html This page talks about "Internal Level," which is the level the game uses to calculate EXP gains, and takes into account how many times a second seal has been used. I'm sure if Donnel's internal level is >1 by the end of Par. 1, he will still be recruited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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