Randa Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 So much effort just to take the Uber Spear user down... I think Randa's put himself at a disadvantage by not running one of his own. This match is like the last one. I'm trying to test the uber spear out, and see if dart is worth using in the future. From these two matchs I think it's safe to say that uber spear is kinda OP, both teams can carry it, but the only safe way to deal with it is to run your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Exactly. If you have to run one of your own to have a chance, that means the Uber Spear is centralizing and stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Wait Randa, the idea was running Uber Spear >_> Anyways Lyn Rienfleches Raven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 This match is like the last one. I'm trying to test the uber spear out, and see if dart is worth using in the future. From these two matchs I think it's safe to say that uber spear is kinda OP, both teams can carry it, but the only safe way to deal with it is to run your own. I think it's good to remember that the Uber Spear does have some weaknesses: 1) you lose the bonuses if you switch to a different weapon, including the max HP you will not get back by re-equipping it. 2) it's 1-2 range, so if you initiate combat with it, you are most certainly receiving a counterattack. Initiating combat against the US user is risky but not obligatory until endgame (which makes the US comparable to, say, PoR max stats Ena, who also doesn't really want to attack a whole lot). 3) 70 hit and only a +4 skill bonus (compared to those huge bonuses in HP, speed and res) makes it rather unreliable for connecting blows, and the US user is vulnerable to WTD and Lancereaver as a result, without effective ways of countering this aside from relying on team mates to do the work. Lance users are also all over the place, and you can choose between Eliwood, multiple Paladins, wyverns, falcos, generals for your US user, so you don't really have anybody to blame if you choose not to use the US in, um, the US meta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Wait Randa, the idea was running Uber Spear >_> Anyways Lyn Rienfleches Raven! I know that's what I did last time. This time I wanted to see if you needed the US to counteract the other teams US I think it's good to remember that the Uber Spear does have some weaknesses: 1) you lose the bonuses if you switch to a different weapon, including the max HP you will not get back by re-equipping it. 2) it's 1-2 range, so if you initiate combat with it, you are most certainly receiving a counterattack. Initiating combat against the US user is risky but not obligatory until endgame (which makes the US comparable to, say, PoR max stats Ena, who also doesn't really want to attack a whole lot). 3) 70 hit and only a +4 skill bonus (compared to those huge bonuses in HP, speed and res) makes it rather unreliable for connecting blows, and the US user is vulnerable to WTD and Lancereaver as a result, without effective ways of countering this aside from relying on team mates to do the work. Lance users are also all over the place, and you can choose between Eliwood, multiple Paladins, wyverns, falcos, generals for your US user, so you don't really have anybody to blame if you choose not to use the US in, um, the US meta. It definitely has its weaknesses, and I think it will probably become a staple weapon on every team, especially with the variety of units who can use it. All that being said its a very powerful weapon that I'm going to keep playing around with. I'm probably gonna play a couple of other unorthodox teams to test out how over powered it actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 [spoiler=Randa's team] [spoiler=Quintessence's team] Turn 4 vs Quintessence's Lyn (Reinflche) attacks Randa's Raven (Silver Axe)! 25x2 Damage, 99% Hit, 18% Crit Lyn attacks! (73 6 96) Raven loses 16/60 HP! Raven is killed! Standings: Randa Dart: 0/60 Rebecca: 44/44 Raven: 0/60 Lucius: 41/41 Karel: 39/39 Quintessence Eliwood: 52/52 Hector: 56/56 Lyn: 46/46 Florina: 9/62 Fiora: 48/48 Randa acts next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Rebecca brave bows Florina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 [spoiler=Randa's team] [spoiler=Quintessence's team] Turn 5 vs Randa's Rebecca (Brave Bow) attacks Quintessence's Florina (Spear)! 33x2 Damage, 46% Hit, 0% Crit Rebecca attacks! (43 40 45) Florina loses 9/62 HP! Florina is killed! Standings: Randa Dart: 0/60 Rebecca: 44/44 Raven: 0/60 Lucius: 41/41 Karel: 39/39 Quintessence Eliwood: 52/52 Hector: 56/56 Lyn: 46/46 Florina: 0/62 Fiora: 48/48 Quintessence acts next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Lyn Rienfleches Karel Shit I forgot Delphi on Flo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 [spoiler=Randa's team] [spoiler=Quintessence's team] Turn 6 vs Quintessence's Lyn (Rienfleche) attacks Randa's Karel (Light Brand)! 26 Damage, 90% Hit, 10% Crit Lyn attacks! (6 75 95) Karel loses 26/39 HP! Karel counters! 14 Damage, 63% Hit, 0% Crit (18 93 99) Lyn loses 14/46 HP! Both sides survive the fight. Standings: Randa Dart: 0/60 Rebecca: 44/44 Raven: 0/60 Lucius: 41/41 Karel: 13/39 Quintessence Eliwood: 52/52 Hector: 56/56 Lyn: 32/46 Florina: 0/62 Fiora: 48/48 Randa acts next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Karel brave swords lyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 [spoiler=Randa's team] [spoiler=Quintessence's team] Turn 7 vs Randa's Karel (Brave Sword) attacks Quintessence's Lyn (Rienfleche)! 17x2 Damage, 68% Hit, 8% Crit Karel attacks! (62 52 86) Lyn loses 17/46 HP! Karel attacks again! (69 67 90) Karel's attack missed! Both sides survive the fight. Standings: Randa Dart: 0/60 Rebecca: 44/44 Raven: 0/60 Lucius: 41/41 Karel: 13/39 Quintessence Eliwood: 52/52 Hector: 56/56 Lyn: 15/46 Florina: 0/62 Fiora: 48/48 Quintessence acts next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Whoa that was close! Hector Swordslays Karel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 1 point and my gamble would've payed off. Well at least the light brand trick worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 1 point and my gamble would've payed off. Well at least the light brand trick worked.Yeah, it's risky to launch units without knowing the weapon type they have. My first thought was launching Swordslayer!Hector against Karel but I feared a Lancereaver, although Karel would've tinked but yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) [spoiler=Randa's team] [spoiler=Quintessence's team] Turn 8 vs Quintessence's Hector (Swordslayer) attacks Randa's Karel (Brave Sword)! 55 Damage, 100% Hit, 19% Crit Hector attacks! (8 95 27) Karel loses 13/39 HP! Karel is killed! Standings: Randa Dart: 0/60 Rebecca: 44/44 Raven: 0/60 Lucius: 41/41 Karel: 0/39 Quintessence Eliwood: 52/52 Hector: 56/56 Lyn: 15/46 Florina: 0/62 Fiora: 48/48 Randa acts next. Edited January 18, 2014 by X-Naut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Quintessence's Hector (Swordslayer) attacks Randa's Karel (Brave Sword)! 55 Damage, 100% Hit, 19% Crit Karel attacks! (8 95 27) Karel loses 13/39 HP! Karel is killed! 10/10 Karel SDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 oops fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Karel decided to suicide after seeing the damage Hector was about to inflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Rebbecca Rienfleche lyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 [spoiler=Randa's team] [spoiler=Quintessence's team] Turn 9 vs Randa's Rebecca (Rienfleche) attacks Quintessence's Lyn (Rienfleche)! 28 Damage, 57% Hit, 0% Crit Rebecca attacks! (19 33 31) Lyn loses 15/46 HP! Lyn is killed! Standings: Randa Dart: 0/60 Rebecca: 44/44 Raven: 0/60 Lucius: 41/41 Karel: 0/39 Quintessence Eliwood: 52/52 Hector: 56/56 Lyn: 0/46 Florina: 0/62 Fiora: 48/48 Quintessence acts next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 RAEG. Ultimately, bull hits are landing pretty often. Hector, swing Armads on Rebecca's face and avenge your almost-waifu! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 [spoiler=Randa's team] [spoiler=Quintessence's team] Turn 10 vs Quintessence's Hector (Armads) attacks Randa's Rebecca (Rienfleche)! 38 Damage, 64% Hit, 0% Crit Hector attacks! (44 49 77) Rebecca loses 38/44 HP! Both sides survive the fight. Standings: Randa Dart: 0/60 Rebecca: 6/44 Raven: 0/60 Lucius: 41/41 Karel: 0/39 Quintessence Eliwood: 52/52 Hector: 56/56 Lyn: 0/46 Florina: 0/62 Fiora: 48/48 Randa acts next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Rebecca rain Rienfleche upon eliwoods face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 [spoiler=Randa's team] [spoiler=Quintessence's team] Turn 11 vs Randa's Rebecca (Rienfleche) attacks Quintessence's Eliwood (Regal Blade)! 21x2 Damage, 56% Hit, 0% Crit Rebecca attacks! (49 58 75) Eliwood loses 21/52 HP! Rebecca attacks again! (11 19 7) Eliwood loses 21/52 HP! Both sides survive the fight. Standings: Randa Dart: 0/60 Rebecca: 6/44 Raven: 0/60 Lucius: 41/41 Karel: 0/39 Quintessence Eliwood: 10/52 Hector: 56/56 Lyn: 0/46 Florina: 0/62 Fiora: 48/48 Quintessence acts next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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