Freohr Datia Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Okay granted this is a blog I'm sourcing, but... "In 1877, Thomas Edison, the famous inventor who developed the first practical telephone transmitter, solved the problem by introducing “Hello!” as the standard English telephone greeting. The word had been around for a little while; Mark Twain had used it in Tom Sawyer." If that word can be found in another book then I guess that would mean that it wasn't invented for the telephone, it just became widespread from it~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Nepos Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) That's talking about what the word hello was based off of, yes... Did it say anything on what started the term and I just missed it? They all come from cries used to urge on hunting dogs, and keep in touch will others in the field. As I understand it, variations of 'hello' were originally used to urge on hunting dugs. OED notes that the form 'hello' itself wasn't in use until the late 19th century. The telephone was invented in the late 19th century (so there could be a relation), but it seems more likely to me that hello is just a variant spelling of hallo, which has been in use since the mid 16th century. So I think hello was simply a variant spelling whose origin is unrelated to the invention of the telephone, but I can't be sure. Edited January 27, 2015 by Hattusili I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinumi Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 pls vote kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freohr Datia Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 As I understand it, variations of 'hello' were originally used to urge on hunting dugs. OED notes that the form 'hello' itself wasn't in use until the late 19th century. The telephone was invented in the late 19th century (so there could be a relation), but it seems more likely to me that hello is just a variant spelling of hallo, which has been in use since the mid 16th century. So I think hello was simply a variant spelling whose origin is unrelated to the invention of the telephone, but I can't be sure. Well yeah I saw that part... idk I guess I just consider "hello variant spelling of hallo with the same meaning" and "hello used as a greeting based off of hallo but with a different meaning" to be completely different things, and that inventing the latter is more what the wtf fun fact was getting at and the oxford dictionary was getting at the former But oh well it's just wtf fun fact, there's really no need to try to look too in-depth into their intentions I guess~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanoir Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Now, that's truly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Now, that's truly wow thats totally rad pls vote kitty let them vote for who they want IT'S THE PEOPLES CHOICE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Well yeah I saw that part... idk I guess I just consider "hello variant spelling of hallo with the same meaning" and "hello used as a greeting based off of hallo but with a different meaning" to be completely different things, and that inventing the latter is more what the wtf fun fact was getting at and the oxford dictionary was getting at the former But oh well it's just wtf fun fact, there's really no need to try to look too in-depth into their intentions I guess~ Sounds like a good idea no need to get all worked up over it but if you're one of those guys that JUST NEED TO BE SURE, i understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Nepos Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Well yeah I saw that part... idk I guess I just consider "hello variant spelling of hallo with the same meaning" and "hello used as a greeting based off of hallo but with a different meaning" to be completely different things, and that inventing the latter is more what the wtf fun fact was getting at and the oxford dictionary was getting at the former But oh well it's just wtf fun fact, there's really no need to try to look too in-depth into their intentions I guess~ What is clear is that hello was already in use as a variant of hallo, which was used to attract attention, which I think explains its origin as a greeting. The word hello does seem to have received 'fame' as the traditional telephone conversation greeting, but to go so far as to state that the word was invented for phone conversations appears to be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadFighter Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I don't have school tomorrow. YESZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Nepos Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I don't have school today. YESZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freohr Datia Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Oh wait no, I guess I wouldn't even say that I think oxford dictionary is going off of the former, I think it's going off of what it was based off of, not what invented it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freohr Datia Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 What is clear is that hello was already in use as a variant of hallo, which was used to attract attention, which I think explains its origin as a greeting. The word hello does seem to have received 'fame' as the traditional telephone conversation greeting, but to go so far as to state that the word was invented for phone conversations appears to be wrong. That's kind of what I just said, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanoir Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 What is clear is that hello was already in use as a variant of hallo, which was used to attract attention, which I think explains its origin as a greeting. The word hello does seem to have received 'fame' as the traditional telephone conversation greeting, but to go so far as to state that the word was invented for phone conversations appears to be wrong. Yep, it was just badly written Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinumi Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I can choose to make them choose kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I can choose to make them choose kitty ok in all seriousness now rallying is getting annoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinumi Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 unrally radd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) I'm ok with with that i'll still support radd because its my choice not some popular opinion Edited January 27, 2015 by Shockmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezy Kanzaki Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Wow Actually good song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Nepos Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 That's kind of what I just said, though... Kind of, yeah. But if hello was originally just a variant spelling of hallo, it cannot have been invented for the telephone; after all, phone conversations are spoken, not written. unrally radd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freohr Datia Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) (also I feel like I should clarify my intentions because I think they might not be getting across...) I don't care who's wrong or who's right in this. I slightly care about what's right since this topic has piqued my interest~ But what I'm mostly caring about is that it looked like Hattu was trying to counter Shock's picture with an unrelated point, which is why I'm trying to clarify to myself whether that point related or not. And I'm trying to counter with something that I think relates (that hello has been used before the telephone in Tom Sawyer, though it never did specify which definition of "hello" was used in it... now I feel as if I'm obligated to go search up which meaning of "hello" was used in that book) So pretty much what I'm caring about is "disprove it better" ^o^ Kind of, yeah. But if hello was originally just a variant spelling of hallo, it cannot have been invented for the telephone; after all, phone conversations are spoken, not written. That's kind of stretching it... what I've looked up says that they spelled it different because the americans(/Thomas Edison) pronounced it different, so they started spelling it like that. Not saying whether that's right or not, but I'm just saying why that argument proves nothing~ Edited January 27, 2015 by Freohr Datia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 i'm feeling pretty tired =~= curses why am i crashing far earlier than usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freohr Datia Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 get slep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 that sounds like a BRILLIANT IDEA 8^D too bad my little brother refuses to leave my room and my bed is really uncomfortable with its sheets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 5-4 lost I WILL BE BACK FASTER BETTER STRONGER WITH MORE PROJECTILES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I AM STILL THE KING OF SCRUBS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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