Tao Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 self-teaching can work just as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 "okay i'm done with my final draft of this essay what do i have now-" begin outline of essay #2 of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twice Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 also my handwriting is shittier in japanese same, when I try with Korean it actually looks decent tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKLucas531 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 self-teaching can work just as well yeah I know I have half a notebook filled just learning/practicing jp grammar and kanji so far but with self-teaching you don't really get the full exposure to the language like you would with a class or a tutor and there isn't like structured review/problems to work on(like things to write or translate) unless you go out and do it for yourself but even then you probably won't make a curriculum for yourself. Like there's no one that I really know is on my beginner level of JP that will learn with me that I can try having a conversation with unlike ppl in a dedicated class! And no one to really correct your mistakes unless you just know someone that can. Also hard to pin down how much you're retaining doing self-tutoring, if your pacing is working out and stuff But since I only aim to read it self-teaching is going ok. If I studied 5 Kanji a day for the next 2 years I'd know the 2000 essential ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKLucas531 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 also no jp games allowed for myself because if I don't even have the entire grammatical foundation then I'm not studying I'm PROCRASTINATING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinumi Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 two years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinumi Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 the korean alphabet is so simple and easy im lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinumi Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 화이팅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKLucas531 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 have u ever looked at chinese it's like entirely kanji and it makes me feel better because i'm like "whew don't gotta learn that much relatively" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKLucas531 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 from wat I can see at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinumi Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 chinese triggers me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinumi Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 加油 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Nepos Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I LOVE PRINCE'S DAY I LOVE THE THRONE SPEECH I LOVE HIS MAJESTY THE KING I LOVE HER ROYAL HIGHNESS THE PRINCESS OF ORANGE I LOVE HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN I LOVE ALL THEIR EXCELLENCIES THE MINISTERS EXCEPT ARD VAN DER STEUR WHY IS HE BREAKING DOWN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM oh right you already know you're a nerd :V (ღ˘ ⌣ ˘ღ) what no japanese is easier... except katakana because fuck katakana But katakana are like the easiest... dw im learning french at school currently and i still don't remember any of it Pourquoi ? :( OH MAN TOFAY IS MY GAOVVRITNE PETOSN'S BIRTHDAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY IT'S ALSO PRINCE'S DAY TODAY like when the fuck am i gonna use ヲ fuck ヲンホ ??? It'd actually be ウォンホ, since ヲ is only used for the particle (so basically never). did u know that korean has no fit devastates me because fffff is such a nice sound Greek used to have no F... If your entire life is a lie then would you love Wonho LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKLucas531 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) It'd actually be ウォンホ, since ヲ is only used for the particle (so basically never). MY POINT STANDS THAT ヲ IS USELESS HAHA if it were the particle wouldn't it be in hiragana though except for fringe cases like NES games where they used katakana because it was easier to write in 8-bit fonts or something like that? or robot speak Edited September 20, 2016 by PKLucas531 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinumi Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 nerds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKLucas531 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 hey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Nepos Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 MY POINT STANDS THAT ヲ IS USELESS HAHA if it were the particle wouldn't it be in hiragana though except for fringe cases like NES games where they used katakana because it was easier to write in 8-bit fonts or something like that? or robot speak Well, I didn't contest your point either. People sometimes write words in katakana to indicate that they're pronounced differently than normal. Robot speak is an example, but I've also seen it used for exaggerated emphasis, insults (like バカ), coarse language (like オレ) and other stuff. But what are the chances someone's going to pronounce を like that? Sometimes katakana seem to be used for reasons I can't quite comprehend (like, FE10 consistently writes カギ [key] in katakana). But that's a fringe case. I've played a couple of Japanese NES games, but I've never seen all-katakana before! nerds Thanks. You too, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Nepos Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Oh no, wait, you're trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 yeah I know I have half a notebook filled just learning/practicing jp grammar and kanji so far but with self-teaching you don't really get the full exposure to the language like you would with a class or a tutor and there isn't like structured review/problems to work on(like things to write or translate) unless you go out and do it for yourself but even then you probably won't make a curriculum for yourself. Like there's no one that I really know is on my beginner level of JP that will learn with me that I can try having a conversation with unlike ppl in a dedicated class! And no one to really correct your mistakes unless you just know someone that can. Also hard to pin down how much you're retaining doing self-tutoring, if your pacing is working out and stuff But since I only aim to read it self-teaching is going ok. If I studied 5 Kanji a day for the next 2 years I'd know the 2000 essential ones! well that's a thing, requiring a lot of self-discipline too... but I think it can work too. I wanna read, write and speak it. ;w; But I'm not good with self-discipline so I have to wait for when I can get something like private lessons because I'm also terrible at groups l0l (ღ˘ ⌣ ˘ღ) But katakana are like the easiest... ur the easiest seriously though....... fuk u ur a nerd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 au where wonho leads one direction won direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKLucas531 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 well that's a thing, requiring a lot of self-discipline too... but I think it can work too. I wanna read, write and speak it. ;w; But I'm not good with self-discipline so I have to wait for when I can get something like private lessons because I'm also terrible at groups l0l yeah I'm not the most self-disciplined so tbh I took it on to see if I can prove I can do something like that I do an hour a day minimum skipping only weekends and I've been at it for like a month so woohoo I can't really say anything I want to yet beyond "X is Y" and stuff like that but I'll get there eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Nepos Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 ur the easiest seriously though....... fuk u ur a nerd W-whoa. I agree about the nerd bit, but let's not do any fucking now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 "okay i'm done with my final draft of this essay what do i have now-" begin outline of essay #2 of course aint it a bitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 self-teaching can work just as wellwhat do you do to self teach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinumi Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 au where wonho leads one direction won direction this is my favourite post on sf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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