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I actually had something prepared about the situation in Ukraine and the inconsistent way in which the international community applies certain principles of international law, but then I remembered no one here would care about that. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

So everyone in Ukraine should just eat pizzas. 'Cause everyone looooooves pizzazz. (ノᐛ )ノ*:・゚✧

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I actually had something prepared about the situation in Ukraine and the inconsistent way in which the international community applies certain principles of international law, but then I remembered no one here would care about that. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

So everyone Ukraine should just eat pizzas. 'Cause everyone looooooves pizzaz. (ノᐛ )ノ*:・゚✧

YOU GET A PIZZA

AND YOU GET A PIZZA

EVERYONE GETS A PIZZA

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I actually had something prepared about the situation in Ukraine and the inconsistent way in which the international community applies certain principles of international law, but then I remembered no one here would care about that. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

So everyone Ukraine should just eat pizzas. 'Cause everyone looooooves pizzaz. (ノᐛ )ノ*:・゚✧

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I would've actually wanted to hear Hatt's take on the matter :(

Topazd! I knew I could rely on you.

It's a purely juridical perspective, disregarding the practical situation.

Let's take a look at the principle of self-determination. The principle of self-determination holds that all peoples have a right to choose their own sovereignty without external interference. The principle of self-determination is commonly accepted in the international community, even being commonly regarded as jus cogens (binding international law).

When the Soviet Union collapsed, the principle of self-determination played an important role. All the countries that were seceding from the USSR were, juridically speaking, exercising their right to self-determination, choosing to withdraw from the USSR's sovereignty and creating their own sovereignty instead. The Western world approved of this.

Like all countries that seceded from the USSR, Ukraine was founded on self-determination. But now that Donetsk and Lugansk are seceding from Ukraine, there is no approval from the Western world, or from Ukraine. But aren't Donetsk and Lugansk simply exercising their right to self-determination? Why should we applaud Ukraine for making full use of its self-determination and condemn Donetsk and Lugansk for doing the same thing?

Oh, and uhh... do you want some pizza and sparkles?

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Topazd! I knew I could rely on you.

It's a purely juridical perspective, disregarding the practical situation.

Let's take a look at the principle of self-determination. The principle of self-determination holds that all peoples have a right to choose their own sovereignty without external interference. The principle of self-determination is commonly accepted in the international community, even being commonly regarded as jus cogens (binding international law).

When the Soviet Union collapsed, the principle of self-determination played an important role. All the countries that were seceding from the USSR were, juridically speaking, exercising their right to self-determination, choosing to withdraw from the USSR's sovereignty and creating their own sovereignty instead. The Western world approved of this.

Like all countries that seceded from the USSR, Ukraine was founded on self-determination. But now that Donetsk and Lugansk are seceding from Ukraine, there is no approval from the Western world, or from Ukraine. But aren't Donetsk and Lugansk simply exercising their right to self-determination? Why should we applaud Ukraine for making full use of its self-determination and condemn Donetsk and Lugansk for doing the same thing?

Well, you know, since they're pro-Russian, the West doesn't like that, so they don't approve of it.

Hypocrisy at its finest basically.

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Yup, that's my point.

It also illustrates the comparative weakness of international law.

As long there is difference, humans will be at odds with each other. Can't be helped. We'd sooner unite because an outside context threat is gunning for us than on our own initiative. I'd think, at least. Odds don't look good to me.

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