dap005 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not a day goes by when I'm not asking people to fill out surveys... Anyhow whenever I do research on gaming habits and opinions I always obtain interesting results. So if anyone is interested in sharing their opinions on f2p games and add-ons fill out this survey here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Fmbg1HB87mGXzM_GbGSfVeZdwI5c1spZPwbZhhmgnkk/viewform It's all for the sake of understanding how to best design f2p models really. Thanks in advance :D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orpheon Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 See TF2. Valve, got as close to perfect with the F2P model as far as I'm concerned with TF2. "F2P" with online pass required is completely and utter fabricated restrictions. Pay2Win is yet another completely unnacceptable model for F2P games. Although there are a bunch of varying types of the F2P model, very few of them actually work. Micro-transactions should be purely cosmetic and offer now difference on gameplay than what is available to everyone else, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuuda Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 See TF2. Valve, got as close to perfect with the F2P model as far as I'm concerned with TF2. I'm not really sure TF2 is best example to point to. First, because if I'm not mistaken, that game wasn't always free to play. Secondly, I don't think the OP has the money, reputation, or fanbase that Valve has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarfishh Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Music based RPG!?! BIESFNIRFIJVFEOIFHIWEJDIEGJSDFSN!!!! (WANT!) *Ahem* Sorry, but... music... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Yeah TF2 is great. Unlockable weapons aren't always better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orpheon Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I'm not really sure TF2 is best example to point to. First, because if I'm not mistaken, that game wasn't always free to play. Secondly, I don't think the OP has the money, reputation, or fanbase that Valve has. No, TF2 wasn't always free. But its micro-transaction system did not exist when the game was paid. The only reason it exists is because the game went F2P. There really aren't any differences between a premium player and an F2P player. Which was the point I was trying to make. Valve offers incentives to pay a few dollars and upgrade to premium and have access to things that do not affect gameplay. You can't buy anything that will drastically change the game you are playing. And that in itself is what the F2P model should be based on. No difference in gameplay. Sure, he doesn't have Valve's following, but if he's looking for the different types of F2P models are the best, I still feel like Valve's current model is the best out there among other F2P games regardless as TF2's past as a paid game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleph Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I want to go on record saying that pay-to-win is unacceptable regardless of whether the base game is free to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dap005 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 Music based RPG!?! BIESFNIRFIJVFEOIFHIWEJDIEGJSDFSN!!!! (WANT!) *Ahem* Sorry, but... music... Haha, thanks for liking the idea xD. We are just building concepts and prototypes for now but hopefully we can release a full version in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarfishh Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Haha, thanks for liking the idea xD. We are just building concepts and prototypes for now but hopefully we can release a full version in future. Looking forward to it greatly! literally my ideal game! Any idea what sort of music it'll be based off, and what sort of soundtrack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 You can't buy anything that will drastically change the game you are playing *cough* Degreaser/Axtinguisher *cough*Jarate/Bushwacka*cough*Gunslinger*cough* But overall these weapons still need some skill and TF2 is still very balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) *cough*Jarate/Bushwacka*cough* are you touting sniper melee as overpowered because if so i am planning to laugh at you forever EDIT: besides that who the fuck buys a bushwacka? you can get one from scrapping drops in like two weeks Edited February 14, 2014 by Integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 are you touting sniper melee as overpowered because if so i am planning to laugh at you forever EDIT: besides that who the fuck buys a bushwacka? you can get one from scrapping drops in like two weeks No Sniper is too slow ("only" 100%) and too tinny to be dangerous in frontal attack, but if you surprise your enemy, he is dead. Of course you don't have to buy it, but you can. I didn't even recommend buying in Mann CO. Store , because buying from another player is cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) No Sniper is too slow ("only" 100%) and too tinny to be dangerous in frontal attack, but if you surprise your enemy, he is dead. so in a discussion about pay2win you listed how the sniper can make himself an objectively worse base kit spy ??? Edited February 14, 2014 by Integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 so in a discussion about pay2win you listed how the sniper can make himself an objectively worse base kit spy ??? Do I said that TF2 is P2W? If yes, tell me when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 given as that's what dsg was talking about and you quoted him i sort of assumed it was in response to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dap005 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Looking forward to it greatly! literally my ideal game! Any idea what sort of music it'll be based off, and what sort of soundtrack? The idea is that users will be able to submit their own tracks and we create individual monsters with those tracks (and they get in game currency as rewards). But generally we'd like different genres of music to be represented in different game maps/areas. For the prototype.mock up we might just put in some chiptune or one of the instrumentals that someone in our school has composed or something someone on the internet is willing to share (with credit of course, wouldn't want to be sued) xD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarfishh Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 The idea is that users will be able to submit their own tracks and we create individual monsters with those tracks (and they get in game currency as rewards). But generally we'd like different genres of music to be represented in different game maps/areas. For the prototype.mock up we might just put in some chiptune or one of the instrumentals that someone in our school has composed or something someone on the internet is willing to share (with credit of course, wouldn't want to be sued) xD. If you ever need some more, I'll be more than willing to submit some. :D Always nice to get your music out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dap005 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 If you ever need some more, I'll be more than willing to submit some. :D Always nice to get your music out there Awesome! I just had a listen to your soundcloud, your compositions are brilliant (instrumentals is just what we're looking for) xD. It would be great if we can use your tracks for the prototype. Just PM me and tell me how you'd like to send over the tracks (we'll credit you of course ^^). Thank you so much for the offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarfishh Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Awesome! I just had a listen to your soundcloud, your compositions are brilliant (instrumentals is just what we're looking for) xD. It would be great if we can use your tracks for the prototype. Just PM me and tell me how you'd like to send over the tracks (we'll credit you of course ^^). Thank you so much for the offer. I can put the tracks up for download. Which ones do you want? If you want anything specific written, I'd be happy to do it. Always nice to have a challenge :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dap005 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 I can put the tracks up for download. Which ones do you want? If you want anything specific written, I'd be happy to do it. Always nice to have a challenge :p Coolio, I'll PM you the details later today (have to rush for school now xD). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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