Sifer Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) spoilers for the thieves challenge 1st or 2nd ed how I defeated the arch mage Well the archmage and I was both invisible. My source said he was away from his tower, but he was napping in the throne room. I made sounds when I was looting everything of value in the room. He woke up saw nothing, but he new someone was there, so he fired off a web spell. It caught me at the edge of the spell. Luckily, I had a girdle of ogre strength and broke through and proceeded to slice him to death while barely winning initiative every round, he was trying to throw disintegration too. Also a 13th level magic missle hurts like hell btw. See? Self defense while trespassing. Edited February 16, 2014 by sifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 That is an action without a specific alignment attached. It isn't inherently good, there's nothing especially lawful about it and the attempts to steal shit are chaotic and evil in themselves, not the contrived way you almost got yourself killed doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 so you broke into his house and murdered him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifer Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) so you broke into his house and murdered him In self defense. The guy shouldn't have napped and my source shoudn't be wrong. wrong info kills people it seems. Edited February 16, 2014 by sifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) You can't break into someone's house, steal his goodies, and then murder them in "self defense". You murdered him to secure the results of your crime. The self defense was his. Neutral Evil again. Edited February 16, 2014 by TheEnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 In self defense. The guy shouldn't have napped and my source shoudn't be wrong. wrong info kills people it seems. yes that rat bastard trying to kill the guy who broke into his house to plunder him damn him, he's going straight to hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Is the archmage one of those goody goody archmages, or is he more like Manchoon? aka evil psycho trying to take over whatever he sees. If the former, stealing from good guy bad. If latter, killing him good, but going there without the intent to kill him but merely steal his stuff is only good if you want to steal stuff to prevent him doing evil. Otherwise CN at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifer Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 ^I don't know I call it a CN act, I just wanted a gem for the contract I was on. Misinformation occured and well, he spotted me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) You can't break into someone's house, steal his goodies, and then murder them in "self defense". You murdered him to secure the results of your crime. The self defense was his. Neutral Evil again. Your avatar works perfectly here. That facepalm. [spoiler=saved for future reference] Anyways I'm seeing very little reason to view OP's character as anything less than totally evil. Edited February 17, 2014 by Euklyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I call it a CN act, yes but we've proven repeatedly you have no idea what chaotic neutral means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Well, in Neverwinter Nights and other games like it, NE or CE acts don't prevent him from being CN as a whole, I guess? As long as he does enough good acts for his +3s and +5s to offset his -10s that he'd get for stuff like this, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 ^I don't know I call it a CN act, I just wanted a gem for the contract I was on. Misinformation occured and well, he spotted me. I suppose things like asking him nicely, bartering for it, and not violating his rights were considered first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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