MelonGx Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Here's my calculation of Lon'qu!Severa vs. Anna: Lon'qu!Severa @ Hero with Avo+10, Lancebreaker, Vengeance, Galeforce (no-DLC-skill run) Her Avo: [42(Hero's SPD)+6(mod)+8(Berserker support)+2(Tonic)]*1.5+[45(LCK)+3(Support)+2(Tonic)]*0.5+50(Lancebreaker)+10(Avo+10)+15(Dual Support+)=187 Anna's hit: 70(SKL)*1.5+65(LCK)*0.5+90(Hack forged Spear's hit)+20(Throne)-15(Lance-Axe)=232 The result is (232-187)% = 45%. But AC had said that it's 11% in a GameFAQs thread. So I wondered if I missed anything in the calculation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Why are you adding 20 hit for the Throne? You're calculating her hit, not her avoid... I make it 25% based on that, everything else looks correct. And really, I wouldn't trust GFaqs users to be accurate in calculations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) And really, I wouldn't trust GFaqs users to be accurate in calculations... ... I'm pretty sure he's a SF user: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showuser=4627 Unless I'm a freaking idiot and that's a different "AC". Edited February 28, 2014 by Gaius217 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Oh, okay. I barely noticed the username, especially because it was abbreviated. I think he just messed the calculation up then probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Does this account for 2 RNs calculated for hit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) First off: Video Demonstration without Rallies or full support [so... it's 5 up because no one is adjacent, or 16] This was with All+2 instead of SPD+2, which... is 1% With Rallies, it hits 0% Lon'qu!Severa SPD: 48 SPD+2: 50 Berserker @S-rank: 58 Tonic: 60 Rallies: 68 Lon'qu!Severa LCK: 45 Pair Up: 48 Tonic: 50 Rallies: 62 Base Avoidance: 133 (base avo without Rallies: 115 (116 A+2)) Support w/Dual Support+: 15 Avoid (148, 130, 131) Lancebreaker: +50 Avoid (198, 180, 181) Weapon Triangle Advantage: +15 Avoid: 213, 195, 196 Charm range: +5 Avoid 218, 200, 201 Full Support: +5 Avoid 222, 205, 206 Avoid+10: +10 Avoid 232, 215, 216 Anna SKL: 70 Anna LCK: 65 Anna Base Hit: 137 Spear++: +90 Hit: 227 5 Overkill without DLC [0% (so, one of Charm or another adjacent unit is unnecessary)], 12 without Rallies or A+2, 11 without Rallies with A+2. Does this account for 2 RNs calculated for hit? It's just the Displayed value. Edited February 28, 2014 by Airship Canon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelonGx Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Thanks. What I missed is Charm & fully Dual Support which require a more unit nearby the Severa. Edited February 28, 2014 by MelonGx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 You could probably swap Avo+10 with Slow Burn for a bigger boost. Apo is long enough that it should fully charge, and if you need more time it's pretty easy to box a Sniper and stall a few turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 You could probably swap Avo+10 with Slow Burn for a bigger boost. Apo is long enough that it should fully charge, and if you need more time it's pretty easy to box a Sniper and stall a few turns. If turns = x... 10 < x <16, then Slow Burn is a point, but... Slow Burn stops working at the 16th turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelonGx Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Found an interesting thing that: (Maybe it had already been discovered too) Lon'qu!Severa @ Assassin (natural SPD) with Berserker: SPD = 46+6+8+2 = 62 Apo's enemies whose SPD > 57: 59 Regular Wave 2 FK, Secret Wave 3 FK, Secret Wave 4 non-boss Berserker >59 Secret Wave 2 Boss Sniper, Secret Wave 3 Boss Sorc, Secret Wave 4 Boss Berserker, Secret Wave 4 Boss Sage, Secret Wave 5's unit x6 That means Lon'qu!Severa/Berserker can double hit most of the Apo's enemies without rallies and LB. Edited March 2, 2014 by MelonGx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Lon'qu!Severa!Morgan: 46(base) +10(Mods) +9(Assassin pairup) +4(Barracks) +2(Tonic) =71, which doubles everything but Anna and Nightmare Sniper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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