Robert Stewart Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) So, this is a thing!Because FE3 wasn't hipstery enough for me, I will be playing Fire Emblem Gaiden alongside DodgeDusk - but with a twist! If you didn't know, FE: Gaiden features two separate player controlled armies- one led by Alm, and the other by Celica. I'll be playing the Alm chapters, and DodgeDusk will be handling the Celica chapters. As far as I know neither of us has played Gaiden to completion before, so this will be a new experience for both of us! Let's get this train wreck a-rollin'! Chapter 1, Maps 1-3 IT BEGINS ....Jagen, is that you? What happened to your shoulder spikes? I see. FUCK YOU, YOU AIN'T THE BOSS OF ME. THE INFAMOUS General DozerIf he's so infamous, why have I never heard of him? Seems like things aren't going so great. Sure, I'll go ask not-Jagen. THIS GUY'S A REAL AMERICAN HERO whoever he isNo, he's a Gold Knight. Generals don't exist in this game. Yeah, okay. I'm sure he'll be down with- Or not.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF_-5pZ_kxY YEAH JAGEN, WHAT'S UP WITH THAT "Well, we wanted a great military hero, but his sone who has no formal military experience works too." You'll need help if you're in a pinch? Your name is now "Sacchin." THAT'S RIGHT, I'M THE BAWS! Wait holy shit, Robin? This isn't Awakening, is it? I like the cut of this guys jib. We exit the village, and SUDDENLY BANDITS. Let's check out our units. THE BAWS A SOLDIER? YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. That speed....you've got a ways to go, Sacchin. He's not the Avatar. That is both good and bad. You're cool, I guess. We start off with this formation. Wooo fancy something to note: when you attack an enemy, in addition to giving experience to the units who's attacking, it also gives EXP to a "group pool." Everbody gets the EXP from the group pool at the end of the battle. Short map is short. Nobody got any levels ups at all, and there wasn't anything much worth taking pictures of. Cliff can't double shit. Our world map. LET'S GO TO MAP 2 Alm what're you doing all the way over there OH GOD IT'S MY WORST NIGHTMARE ANY ARMY FULL OF MARIAS C'mon guys, get it together. Alm no Hm, I wonder what's in here? Bandits apparently. GOOD JOB, GUYS. YEAH LUKA Luka why BEST ROBIN SACCHIN SO THWOMP Oh yeah, Villagers can promote as level 3 in this game. Luka pls Once we beat the bandit goons we find a shrine! Healer get! She has 8 strength, so she's already better than Maria. You promote in Gaiden by visiting shrines. No promotion items needed. Our boys get stronger! Well, compared to how they were previously. Also, you can use these Lion head things to get stat boosts up to three times per shrine. Here, left left one boosts speed and the right one to boost your HP.also, I totally forgot to screenshot Silk's base stats. My bad. The next part of Chapter 1 will be up shortly. Stay tuned! Edited January 19, 2017 by Robert of Normandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Chapter 1 Part 2: ONWARD I think there was a map in Awakening referencing this one. Mercs can cross mountains in this game, apparently. GRAY I KNEW THERE WAS A REASON I LIKED YOU FE2 bows are great, aren't they? And this isn't even their final form. Like in FE1, healers don't get EXP from staves. However, they can get EXP from the group pool, and they can attack enemies with Nosferatu to get EXP. It's innacurate as fuck, though, so it's somewhat risky. SILK YES C'mon, guys, get it together. LIKE A BOSS SACCHIN YES Also, in this game all weapons are infinite use. Magic spells, however, drain HP when used, so there's that to consider. On the upside, Magic ignores terrain bonuses, so that's nice. RIVETING THWOMP OH, THIS GUY Watch out, we got a badass over here! Incidentally, this is why I gave Gray that Speed boost: so I would have someone who wouldn't get doubled by this guy. Sacchin did the most work taking him down. With him gone, Map 4 is done. Yup. That's a map. Also, those pink things are basically forts. LOOK AT THIS GUY THINKS HE'S SO COOL, WITH HIS SPIKY SHOULDERS C'mon, Luka, don't do this to me. DANGIT, ROBIN, ARCHERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO HIT THINGS Oh yeah, we got his from that Mercenary last chapter. It boosts defence. YES 1-5 RANGE BOW GET SO FASTStill better than Maria. Let's see what these guys were guarding. PEGASUS KNIGHT GET Sounds like a cool guy. Also, we got a Thunder Sword. ONWARD Wow, great level design, huh guys? ALM BRINGS THE THUNDER 2stronk I forget why I took this I think Robin missed  He does that a lot GOTTA GO FAST That's over YOU BET I'M READY This feels like a worse version of Chapter 4/5 from Shadow Dragon. It's probably just the river. THWOMPcher SO FAST DANGIT, LUKA GO LUKA DO DOGA PROUD Typical Pegasus Knight WE CONQUERED THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE CAVALRS NO, I'M THE BOSS...I mean, yes, we are. ...come again? Oh jeez, you weren't kidding. WHY DOES YOUR SECRET BASE HAVE ZOMBIES SO STRONK ALM BRINGING DOWN THE THUNDER Alm no Oh, it's a graveyard? ...huh. No problem Steve. OF COURSE I'M THE BOSS BECAUSE HE'S A CHICKEN CHEEP CHEEP I thought we just established this? NO PROBLEM I'M THE BOSS, AFTER ALL Oh dang, that's not good. Oh yeah, these deities. They were mentioned in the opening title scroll.probably should have screencapped that. OH WELL Yeah I was gonna ask about those. I see. CLAIR GETS STRONKish YES get off your ass and come with usActually, he's a Paladin, not a fighter. Next up, the Final Map! Edited January 19, 2017 by Robert of Normandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Chapter 1 Part 3: Â Â WE'RE AT THE FINAL PART OF CHAPTER 1 ...but first, time for some EPIC GRINDING! wooo Here's our crew before the batch of grinding. I don't feel like screen capping every level up, so I'll just show you the stats of my units before and after the grinding, as well as any particularly noteworthy levels. Like so. TELPROT GET SO FAST Also, Steve and Luka are both level 7, which means... Promotion time! In general, in FE2 it's advisable to promote as soon as possible. Growth tend to be pretty low, and along with the way promotion "bonuses" work (essentially, your base stats get raised to the promoted class' bases if they're originally lower), that tends to mean there's not much point in waiting to promote. We use up the last of the shrine bonuses. Â Â Chapter 1 Final: The Final Map! For real this time! LET'S GO, BOYS AND GIRLS! Wooo castle thingy. Yes. WHAT'D U CALL ME M8 ILL REK U ...or not. Jeez, that defence. You, on the other hand, look managable. Python and Robin get right to work after 3 turns Vwoorp. At least you might start hitting things more often now. Gray pls OH SHOOT, THE BOSSMAN ...right to the point, I guess. LUKA YES Steve and Luka dutifully chip. THE BOSS gets the kill. ....that's all? Really? YEAH SON WATCHU GONNA DO ...thanks for letting us know that. with the bossmen gon all that's left is to take out their GOON squad. Steve pls. Alm pls. LUKA YES CLAIR 2STRONK *insert witty Dora the Explorer joke here* GRAY IS ON FIRE OR NOT After that, the map is over. Take a quick hop back to the shrine to promote Gray. OUR GANG Let's check this castle thing out. YEAH GO US WHAT A DICK The BOSS could probably use it though. He's well beyond normal. What a jackass. Oh? What's this? LUKA WANT Yeah, I knew the BOSS couldn't be related to such a wimp. I think we've established that Bulldozer is a jerk by now. I see. There's an exit to the north but we can't do anything there for now. MEANWHILE, AT THE ROOF Ew. Good question. ...um, okay? I WAS GONNA DO THAT ANYWAY NO PROBLEM HM WHO IS THAT I WONDER Chapter 1 is over! Now it's time for Dusk to do Chapter 2. Stay tuned! Edited January 19, 2017 by Robert of Normandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeDusk Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think there was a map in Awakening referencing this one. I think it's the same map as the one you recruit Emmeryn in, isn't it? Also, 1-5 range with a bow? Why can't they all be this good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caster Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 finish it in 5 days go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanoir Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) I think it's the same map as the one you recruit Emmeryn in, isn't it? Also, 1-5 range with a bow? Why can't they all be this good? It is, indeed. Well... Most archer are not that great and bow accuracy is shaky.. I once trained for hours in order to max all my Villagers stats (using the Merc trick), and then owned Dozer with Mage! Cliff. Not sure if it was worth the effort, but it was cool. Edited November 9, 2014 by Thy Danse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeDusk Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Oh, I see Chapter 2: part 1 of I'm guessing 3   Howdy  Or you can leave. That's cool   What a majestic beard   How did you last so long without crops?   Plot  Sofian is nice to pronounce   With a name like that, I don't think I can   'kay  So these two are our Mages. May is, from what I've gathered, better, since she doubles with Fire, and also has more Resistance   Okay, Jenny  Jenny is our Cleric and Nosferatu user. Always useful     Stats  Boey seems to be the more reliable of the two, in regards to accuracy and survivability. But, if you can dish out more than one attack, you're pretty darn good  Also, can someone tell me how doubling works in this game, please? I don't think I fully understand it   Celica, please    Some meaty damage right there   We're going to get along juuuuuuuuuust fine...  ... <_<   She can apparently tank, though   Jenny can summon Cheerios!  First map: clear   I wonder if this will be important later   You. You're perfect. A drunken hooligan with a scarf? Bliss   I get what I want   In typical Fire Emblem fashion   HNNNNNNNNNG   Saber will choke this point!  Strategy: Enemy gets hurt during the EP on Saber, who will then get blasted by Celica/May's Fire attack, killing them. Saber would then take a step forward and kill the enemy behind the defeated enemy. Either Celica or May (depending who didn't move earlier) would then go where Saber previously was, and kill the enemy Saber weakened. The cycle then repeats   'Til this. I then bopped these two fools and moved on   Easily the hardest map out of the four I'm showing now. The Mercenary has a Leather Shield, and is naturally stronger than Saber. The Archer could also snipe, dealing moderate chip damage   Going well, so far   Against the Merc. Really helpful, Boey!   Saber will love that   Nice! Units have levelled up in the past, but sometimes the text seems to move by itself. And if it doesn't, they're increased stats in 2+ stats. The text box fades really quickly, so this was the first level up I successfully nabbed   Celica...   Be as good as Saber, please  MOVING ON   Heehee. Saber can now choke all the points!   IS THAT A KNIGHT?   DA GOONZ   HE WILL ALSO CHOKE ALL THE POINTS    Seem on par with each other (Saber gained a level up since then, though it was just Health). Though, since Saber has the Leather, he's arguably better right now   LEO  Awesome name, awesome class... Man, you're someone we're bringing to end game   Da map. The goon in the top right is Dahha, our map boss    SABER HAS SUCCESSFULLY CHOKED THE POINT   pls   Valbo is literally a bipedal tank, holding its turret with its hand   Slice 'n' dice!   Ah, I remember this picture. Split second earlier Saber missed his attack. Wanted to show it. Guess I was too slow   Damn, he moved to the fort   Pretty sure this killed, actually. Might've captured the screen a bit too soon   And that is all for this part!  I'll do the other maps tomorrow or something Edited January 22, 2017 by Blusis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Also, can someone tell me how doubling works in this game, please? I don't think I fully understand it If your AS>enemies AS, you double. If your enemies AS > your AS, you get doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeDusk Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) So it's basically like Genealogy? All right, that makes sense. I was only asking because May could double with Fire, but not with Thunder. And I couldn't find if spells have weight to them in game. I'll have a second look tomorrow. Thank you Edited November 10, 2014 by DodgeDusk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 What a jackass. This made me laugh way more than it should have. It'll be interesting to finally see an LP of one of the two FEs I haven't played and have no intention of playing <_<. Is it just the characters so far, or are the stats really skewed towards strength in general? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 It's probably due to the equipment system in this game. You can only hold one item, and unless you have a weapon equipped or are a mage you use your default weapon, which has 0 might. So strength is a very important stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeDusk Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Part 2 of 3   THE TANK IS AMONG US   Hello, Saber 0.9   I, uh, don't plan to...?   ANGEL MAGIC   Gave this to Celica   Shinpichu, we are bringing this unit to end game   Oh, those are some nice stats. And you're on a fort. Fantastic   DA GOONZ    Amazing units doing amazing stuff    Learn from Saber and Valbo, please   MORE GOONZ  No, the Shaman is still alive   Memory might be failing me, but I'm pretty sure he procced something else too   POWER  Looking a bit red there, love   I think this was Kamui   Leo chips   And no one cared  I wish the game showed you the weight of magic attacks. I had no idea this was going to happen <_<  I would've restarted the chapter, but Boey was so disappointing, I couldn't be bothered   Jenny is a magical SHIELD   This Shaman was so annoying. Please, no more frustrations like this guy   I backtracked because I completely forgot to get the stat boosts at the start of the chapter. As you can tell, I am so knowledgeable about Gaiden, even the most adept scholars bask in my knowledge   May, you're awesome    ANGEL IS SO STRONG, DAMN  I didn't have the chance to use this against live targets; guessing this is bonus damage?   That's all you need, gurl. Pretty sure you gained something else, too. I want to say HP   Obviously  Gave this to Saber, I believe. I gave the other one to Celica. Think it was Defence   And HP. It'll do, lad   DRAGON ZOMBIE  Man, those stats and move...   I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO STAY ON YOUR FORT   Celica, I no longer hate you   If I knew he moved, I would've been a bit more careful   That's... okay   MORE GOONZ  We have a new enemy: Bonewalkers. Probably on par with that Mercenary we fought earlier, minus the Leather Shield. Might be a tad worse, though   Kamui gets a nice level...   ... And finishes off this pile of bones!   yeah boii   Gravestones. I wonder if we decided to bury Boey  ... Probably not   TIME TO SHINE, MY PRE-   you what    Much more convenient   Next time, we fight more seafarers!  Question time: What does the Holy Ring the Dragon drop do? Guessing it raises Resistance? Edited January 22, 2017 by Blusis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) The Holy Ring restores 5 Hp per turn. Edited November 10, 2014 by shinpichu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caster Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 RIP shitty mage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Nepos Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 And no one cared Have fun missing out on the awesome spell that is arrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Have fun missing out on the awesome spell that is arrow. Spoiler Technically both Sonia and Nomah can learn Arrow.  Also, he can revive Boey later if he so chooses.  Edited January 19, 2017 by Robert of Normandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Nepos Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Technically both Sonia and Nomah can learn Arrow. Also, he can revive Boey later if he so chooses. True, but Noma sucks and getting Sonia and then getting her to the appropriate level will take a long time. And reviving will just get him a very underleveled Boey. Not much use to that. Point taken though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) True, but Noma sucks and getting Sonia and then getting her to the appropriate level will take a long time. And reviving will just get him a very underleveled Boey. Not much use to that. Point taken though. Spoiler I could also "give" him Ryuto if he really wants. Â Edited January 19, 2017 by Robert of Normandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeDusk Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) The Holy Ring restores 5 Hp per turn. thanks bae Part three of three    Some levels   Yeah, I totally missed an open space behind the statue the first time. So, meet Gargoyles. They're, like, fast. And strong   CRITICAL   Nice one... I think you're Kamui   holy moley  Gave to Celica   Someone tell me why I gave Leo the Steel Sword   Celica chokes more points   Jenny killed something that isn't already dead!   I like what this spell does    Celica does badass things   Valbo be stronger!   Criticals are now known as "The Celica"   Flawless   Notching faster is always nice   Yay, more Shamans...   DA GOONZ   May, please   Lad's gonna have pecks of steel   Skill is nice, I guess   Shaman's on forts annoy me. A lot   archanea huh   You should go and do something about that    THE HARD DECISIONS   Why are there zombies in a liberation army's base?   oh sweet jesus    HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG   Why do you exist?   Well, that's totally not inviting whatsoever   SABER THE MYRM   Lightning!   Another one?   WHY DO THESE PLACES-  Wait a minute...   oh for the love of   OKAY  Also, that stinks. Sounds like more experience for me, though   I wonder who could have done that?   What a fantastic face you have there, moustache   Except for Boey. Fuck Boey   whoa no way man   no shit sherlock have you been paying attention  also hi shinpichu   you what   I... don't know, actu-   Oh  Damn it, Celica   oh noes   Quest for dat BOOTY   Except for Boey. Fu- oh wait, I've already said this. That's how forgettable he is   wait what no don't go   Time to hand it over! Edited January 22, 2017 by Blusis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) Chapter 3-Alm Part 1: Yeah, first chapter with simulatneous control of the parties! Wooo! Well isn't that convenient. Yup, that path sure is blocked. Haven't we seen this map before? THE BOSS has some words YEAH DO THAT wait other people can teleport too You hoar So stronk GRAY, BRINGING DOWN THE THUNDER Ouch Gray pls GRAY PLS Blegh I was surprised this actually worked. Silk no, stop trying to THWOMP. You aren't good at it. STEVE YES such skill wow the FORCE gets stronger Robin pls Only one goon left Oh shoot, he's a real boss. WATCH OUT, IT'S THE ZACK ATTACK ZACK is no match for Sacchin, though. Blegh. forest map with enemies whose attacks ignore terrain bonuses. SO FAST Robin pls Does THE BOSS have to do everything for you people. LIKE A BOSS Maybe now you can actually hit things. This last goon likes to hide on forest tiles. It's really annoying. tbf it's kinda my fault he missed this time because that GOON is hiding in the woods. Finally lured him out. GOTTA GO FAST Back at the liberation HQ to get Robin and Force promotion. SO FAST This is Python btw SO THWOMP while we've been off promoting some GOONS have assembled to chase after us. U hoar Luka wut r u doing all the way over there you can't choke any points like that Luckily we have THE FORCE to help us out in his stead. dat bow EXCALIBUR YES FUCK YEAH SO THWOMP LIKE A BOSS why can't my archers actually hit anything Clair tries her best to THWOMP ROBIN NO Eventually we do actually statrt to hit things again. Back here again, this time for Python. 100% PURE USDA APROVED THWOMP Finally gets over the edge to be promotion ready. More levels The Python gets his fangs! Again really It's the same map as last time with the exact same layout, so I'm not showing it again. Steve decides that chocking points is for wimps and yolos out here. Steve pls SUCH FORCE Excalibur is pretty great if you didn't catch on by now. YOU BET YOUR ASS I AM ...really? Just 3 guys? SO FAST Must run in the family. YEAH WE DID IT I almost fucked it up and let silk get killed, but we made it! Let's check out that village. no dusk can't have any of mah shit BETTER GO SAVE THEM but why can't I have it now I see. I'm sure there's some fine upstanding fellow in charge of keeping- Those motherfuckers. Okay, first thing, his name is THE BOSS And second, yeah sure, okay. Sure, whatever. Who the fuck is Tatara NEW BLOOD He's stronger than Sacchin, but slower. also, he comes with Excalibur right off the bat. That's all for now. Your move, Duskie. Edited January 19, 2017 by Robert of Normandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soledai Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I think you can get Angel Rings off of theives in this game, iirc it has a quite low drop rate. Looking forward to Rainarok Silk too good >w> [spoiler=Chapter 3-Alm Part 1]STEVE YES o: [spoiler=Chapter 3-Alm Part 1] Ryuto's cool, he's a good mage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 It's probably due to the equipment system in this game. You can only hold one item, and unless you have a weapon equipped or are a mage you use your default weapon, which has 0 might. So strength is a very important stat. Danke. FE2's even stranger than I'd imagined. I also think it's safe to say that FE2 might have the most boring map layouts I've seen thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 the graveyard maps and the maps with forests are pretty ridiculous even though they might seem simple, the avoid boosts from terrain in gaiden are absolutely stupid (I think graves give like 60 avoid?) Its honestly my biggest gripe with the game, and the skirmishes that the enemy can just attack your party without you being able to do anything to prepare for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeDusk Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) Chapter 3-Celica, part 1   First off, let's fix Leo's weapon, shall we?   CATRIA   HNNNNNNNNNG   your luck tho   I love the Sniper palette this game  LEO IS A MECH   An inaccurate mech, apparently     Kamui will hold the line!  Also, SPEED   Gurl, stop stealing my kills   I'm guessing bows do bonus damage to flying units this game   Mecheo can kill things even when his bow is facing the wrong way!   That's unlucky   stahp    Celica and Saber both do The Celica   Almost done   Celica got Celica'd!   Look, if you actually gained experience, you stealing my kills wouldn't be a problem. But you don't. So stop   May needs some glasses   Ignore the fact the opponent dodged, and ask yourself this: why is Leo holding an Arwing?   Learn from Jenny, you two   MECHEO   Excuse me?   I was looking for you!   fo shore   A really cool move, yeah? Sounds cool   uh okay   DA GOONZ    Don't hit Saber when you aren't supposed to, fool   Valbo practices for the Olympics with his HAND LANCE   He missed his first attack. Really?   That pretty much summed up this map   Okay, I'm worried about these guys attacking Alm if I do another battle. Will they? If so, I'll hand it over to Shinpichu Edited January 22, 2017 by Blusis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Okay, I'm worried about these guys attacking Alm if I do another battle. Will they? If so, I'll hand it over to Shinpichu Probably. GIMME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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