Delphi Sage Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 That way we can narrow down what FE14's plot will be like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fengaridotdll Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 First off, there wasn't an Est. Nor was there a Beowolf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphi Sage Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 First off, there wasn't an Est. *citation needed* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Gotoh. Flavia and Basilio have amazing combat, but they are not god stomping good like most Gotoh archetypes are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) *citation needed* As I understand it, there are 3 requirements for Ests: 1) The unit must be underlevelled compared to your current units. 2) The character must have very good growths. 3) The character is recruited near the end of the game. The only possible candidate for being an Est in Awakening is Donnel, but he fails to meet the third criterion, since he can be recruited as early as after Chapter 4's completion. So yeah, there are no Ests in Awakening. Edited March 21, 2015 by NinjaMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardin Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Awakening didn't feature a Lorenz type of character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 An Est doesn't have to join near the end of the game. FE12 Est joined around mid game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyVoxel Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 So yeah, there are no Ests in Awakening. Aside from the 2/3 Est of Donnel, I think Henry fits into at least one of the Est categoriesl Awakening didn't feature a Lorenz type of character. Though it did feature an okly done Camus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fengaridotdll Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Aside from the 2/3 Est of Donnel, I think Henry fits into at least one of the Est categoriesl How so? He's very much capable of killing when he joins and he has pretty competent bases! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 How so? He's very much capable of killing when he joins and he has pretty competent bases!If that's what you call competent speed.. Although fixable yeah that speed base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyVoxel Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 How so? He's very much capable of killing when he joins and he has pretty competent bases! Iirc he's an unpromoted level 10 when you get him. I forget what chapter though, but I know I've promoted/second sealed by the time I get to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masadeer Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 How so? He's very much capable of killing when he joins and he has pretty competent bases! on hard mode he can be useable immediately, but doing so requires you to be very careful, moderately challenging. On lunatic, you'd have to give him a forged waste/nosferatu, and immediately pair him up with an overleveled sumia to let him have a chance at killing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaptain Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 We got no Caeda archetype, mostly because Chrom just HAD to recruit every single character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphi Sage Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) We got no Caeda archetype, mostly because Chrom just HAD to recruit every single character. Um, what? Caeda isn't an archetype. Even if she was, she's not defined by the ability to recruit other units. That goes to her being the main love interest to the protagonist. Besides, we already have Sumia. Edited March 21, 2015 by Delphi Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) We got no Caeda archetype, mostly because Chrom just HAD to recruit every single character. That's not true: Children characters can be recruited by their mother (Avatar for Morgan), and Yen'fey can only be recruited by having Say'ri talk to him. Edited March 21, 2015 by NinjaMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geek Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Archetypes are extremely contrived so you could probably force a character into almost any archetype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 How about "giant country invades small country"? Plegia attacks Ylisse but it's not like Ylisse is occupied before you take the fight to the enemy, like most games. I guess a case could be made for Valm getting conquered by Walhart but it's not really explicit where he comes from. Also, no late game/story based promotion for the main Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iavasechui Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Well there weren't any borderline incestuous sibling relationship, though the game still let you pair up first cousins and if you set it up Morgan could end up marrying his/her aunt or uncle. Oh and I'm not saying this needs to be included in later games I'm just pointing out its absence in this one and the fact that it has been in previous games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Giamatti Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) Awakening didn't have "either or" characters like Samson and Arran or a path split. It also didn't have a trio that could use a triangle attack. Edited March 21, 2015 by Zvarri! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moishe Oofnik Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) Awakening Archetypes: Oifaye: Frederik Cain and Abel: Sully and Stahl Ogma: Gregor Bord and Cord: Non Est: Non Nabarl: Lon'qu Gotoh: Basilio and Flavia Lena: Lissa Maria: Maribelle Pegasus Trio: None Gharnef: Validar Ephidel: Aversa Camus: Mustafa Michalis: Gangrel Julian: Gaius Gordin: Virion Jeorge: Virion and Say'ri Draug: Kellam Merric: Ricken Minerva: Cherche Arran and Samson: Dalen and Gyral Ethrin: Maribelle Bandit Twins: Vincent and Victor Cornelius: Emmeryn Nyna: Say'ri Wendell: Non Hardin: Non Beowurf: Non Lorenz: Non Nomah: Non Edited March 21, 2015 by TTPK_Tal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geek Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Wouldn't Olivia technically count as an Est? Comes in about halfway through the game with abysmally low stats but has the capacity to become amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphi Sage Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 Wouldn't Olivia technically count as an Est? Comes in about halfway through the game with abysmally low stats but has the capacity to become amazing. How? She's a dancer. She's not supposed to be able to fight. They probably gave her sword access on a lark. Nyna=Say'ri Wow, that's hilariously incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Wow, that's hilariously incorrect. I blame the FE wiki for listing her as a 'Nyna' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphi Sage Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) I blame the FE wiki for listing her as a 'Nyna' Why would you trust those guys? They're so desperate for finding patterns, they've gone to war on whether Mallesia, Maria or Yumina started the "spunky cleric" pattern when it's actually the ANIME archetype of Ojous. Edited March 21, 2015 by Delphi Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanilluxe Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) - Edited July 15, 2015 by Vanilluxe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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