General Horace Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) I've been poking away at an FE9 draft, and the thought came to me today that a draft of FE4 that limited how far certain characters could go in the arena might be a way to better balance it, since they'd lose some exp and a LOT of gold (this really hurts Sigurd) and makes money management much more valuable, and is similar to the fe9 bexp limit.I've put together a halfass chart that's open for discussion for those interested. UNIT C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 SIGURD -- 03 03 07 07 NOISH 03 05 07 07 07 ALEC 03 05 07 07 07 ARDAN 07 07 07 07 07 CUAN 03 05 07 -- -- ETHLIN 07 07 07 -- -- FIN 03 05 07 -- -- LEX 03 03 04 06 07 AZEL 07 07 07 07 07 MIDIR 03 05 07 07 07 AIDEEN 07 07 07 07 07 DEW 07 07 07 07 07 AYRA 07 07 07 07 07 DEIRDRE 07 07 07 07 07 JAMKA 07 07 07 07 07 HOLYN -- 07 07 07 07 LACHESIS -- 07 07 07 07 LEVIN -- 07 07 07 07 SYLVIA -- 07 07 07 07 FURY -- 05 07 07 07 BEOWULF -- 05 07 07 07 BRIGGID -- -- 07 07 07 CLAUDE -- -- 07 07 07 TILTYU -- -- 07 07 07 ------------------------ UNIT C7 C8 C9 C10 CE CELICE 03 03 03 005 07 LANA 07 07 07 007 07 LAKCHE 07 07 07 007 07 SKASAHAR 07 07 07 007 07 OIFAYE 03 05 07 007 07 DELMUD 03 05 07 007 07 LESTER 05 07 07 007 07 JULIA 07 07 07 007 07 FEE 04 06 07 007 07 ARTHUR 05 07 07 007 07 JOHAN 07 07 07 007 07 JOHALVA 07 07 07 007 07 SHANAN 07 07 07 007 07 PATTY 07 07 07 007 07 LEAF 03 05 05 007 07 NANNA 05 07 07 007 07 FIN 07 07 07 007 07 ALESS 03 05 05 007 07 LEEN 07 07 07 007 07 TINNY 07 07 07 007 07 FAVAL -- 07 07 007 07 SETY -- 07 07 007 07 HANNIBAL -- -- 07 007 07 CORPLE -- -- 07 007 07 ALTENNA -- -- 07 007 07 Normal drafting rules would still apply. Thoughts?Edit: oh my god my phone broke the table EDIT EDIT: Fixed Edited May 11, 2015 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Do Noish and Alec really need nerfing that harshly? I thought that they were pretty lame as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 The idea is cool. But I agree with SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 This also feels pointless for some characters. Like okay we CAN take Dew, Aideen, and Ardan to the end of the Chapter 1 arena but no one will realistically do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 This also feels pointless for some characters. Like okay we CAN take Dew, Aideen, and Ardan to the end of the Chapter 1 arena but no one will realistically do so. But shin proved that Dew can solo the cross knights! Surely there is some incentive there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Yeah, I agree with the Alec/Noish deal, they kinda suck, last few drafs I've done have been Sigurdless. And the option is there if people want to promote Aideen and have her clear the arena in chapter 1. It's an option, not a requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 It's an interesting prospect, I do wonder if Celice is able to promote at the start of chapter 7 still or if you need to take an extra turn to ensure he gets the extra XP. My only issue is that a lot of characters can't actually get terribly far in the arena, and by the time they can, you've already allowed them to get to round 5 or 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'd say it's better to test what you have now before complaining about revisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'd say it's better to test what you have now before complaining about revisions. And what better way to test then, You, Shin, Horace and some other smuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyTheDemonSlayer Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 I'm reading this a bit late, but in all honesty I think this would have some strange side effects that could make things either more or less balanced. First of all, Dew would become a much higher priority pick (to patch up Sigurd's money issues, which would save turns in the second generation.) Also, utility units like Sylvia/Aideen would probably become even more useful as combat units drop off, though this is just a theory at this point. I'm really not sure how these differences would play out though, it does require testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabethegreen Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) This looks pretty interesting i wouldnt be opposed to trying it but I agree with psych some of them seem impossible like aideen and ardan And also why is dierdre on anything past ch3? Still this coould be fun Edited May 18, 2015 by gabethegreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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