PuffPuff Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Phoenix_Mode After reading and hearing about...I'd have to say that this is good for younger audiences to enjoy this game. What do you think of it? :) Voted Good of course. :D Edited July 27, 2015 by Princess_Florina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambulz Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Here's hoping this battleground stays clean... I say it's good, but it ain't my cup of tea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomez_Addams Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Why isn't there an option for "meh, whatever"? Cause that's how I feel about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudropis Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Bad. I know veterans can just ignore it and all that jazz, but there has to be a point this stuff needs to stop - the "it's for new players" excuse holds up until a certain point, then it becomes borderline laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCProductions Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Why isn't there an option for IDGAF I said good since this could possibly get some of my friends to try out Fates, even if I'll never use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vineron Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 There should've been a neutral option, but since I'm not inherently against it I picked good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvype Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I say it's good. Honestly I'm so bad that I lost units pretty regularly on Normal/Casual in Awakening if that affects anything. I think it's great for people who have never played SRPGs and want to start out. I'll probably be sticking to Casual myself, though. And anyway it's only available on Normal so anyone who wants to go Hard or Lunatic won't be affected by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minischew Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) I voted Good, because I'll probably use it to grind for supports. I like filling out the archive, after all. Edited July 27, 2015 by Minischew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Alchemist Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 If it sells more copies, it's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviddo Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 It may not be for everyone, but there is NOTHING wrong with a very easy mode feature, especially for those who just aren't good at Fire Emblem yet they want to experience the story. There's no reason to hate this mode, it's not mandatory, and it may help others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 Bad. I know veterans can just ignore it and all that jazz, but there has to be a point this stuff needs to stop - the "it's for new players" excuse holds up until a certain point, then it becomes borderline laughable. You wouldn't say the reason that the series sold poorly for a long time! ...And to why that casual exists now, because people have been getting scared of losing their characters. It may not be for everyone, but there is NOTHING wrong with a very easy mode feature, especially for those who just aren't good at Fire Emblem yet they want to experience the story. There's no reason to hate this mode, it's not mandatory, and it may help others. ^ Especially since were getting newer audiences by the minute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinian Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 If there are people who would rather play Fates this way, then it's good for them. The new mechanics make this game trickier than Awakening, if anything, so it can save newcomers some headaches if they just want to play for the story. I say it's good. Honestly I'm so bad that I lost units pretty regularly on Normal/Casual in Awakening if that affects anything. I think it's great for people who have never played SRPGs and want to start out. I'll probably be sticking to Casual myself, though. And anyway it's only available on Normal so anyone who wants to go Hard or Lunatic won't be affected by it. I don't have anything against people who decide to play on Phoenix, but let's be honest here, Phoenix mode will not actually be helping those people get into the SRPG genre since there is barely any thinking involved. It's just letting those people play this particular game as if it were a VN with some interactive action elements. People who want to properly get into the genre would be better off starting on Casual at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I don't understand it. Although Fates is more technically demanding than ever, it's hard for me to imagine what someone could find so challenging that Normal Casual isn't enough to keep things manageable, especially with the option of grinding. But if there really are people finding the game more accessible as a result, I can't exactly complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I don't understand it. Although Fates is more technically demanding than ever, it's hard for me to imagine what someone could find so challenging that Normal Casual isn't enough to keep things manageable, especially with the option of grinding. But if there really are people finding the game more accessible as a result, I can't exactly complain. never doubt how awful at videogames someone can be. DarkSydePhil is the prime example of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCProductions Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I can unfortunately say I know some people who would gameover on Hoshido Phoenix I honestly wish I was kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Mage Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Honestly, I see nothing wrong, seriously what's wrong with a very easy feature? Not everyone is going to understand the mechanics at first, so what's wrong with helping them? Why are people are taking it as a personal offense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachmac Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I'd say I'm in total awe that they needed to make this a thing, but then I remember how much my older sister struggled with Normal/Casual Awakening. I'm sure she could of been decent if she actually payed attention to what she was doing, but with the varied map objectives and such, and I can definitely see her losing on Pheonix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Geargia Gateway Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I find it silly. What's easier than Easy Casual? I think IS are trying too hard. They make the game look like it's for people who won't take the game as a whole seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 My opinion is "Eh, whatever..." While I personally don't think it's a very necessary thing to add, Phoenix mode is still the least of my concerns regarding this game's implementations (although most of my negative impressions are not strictly tied to the gameplay aspect). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageOfAnys Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 My opinion on phoenix is sort of in the middle with a slight lean towards "good". Phoenix seems unnecessary to us because we've played FE a ton, to newcomers that aren't used to strategy, this could be really helpful for them to get in. And it's not like people WON'T play harder difficulties, most will. Whether it's indirect peer pressure or a desire for a challenge, a good amount of people will move on to higher ones, especially once they become more comfortable with the game and become less scared. But I can see why people say the mode is bad though. Also, the poll should probably include a "I don't care" option because that probably represents a large group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 My opinion on phoenix is sort of in the middle with a slight lean towards "good". Phoenix seems unnecessary to us because we've played FE a ton, to newcomers that aren't used to strategy, this could be really helpful for them to get in. And it's not like people WON'T play harder difficulties, most will. Whether it's indirect peer pressure or a desire for a challenge, a good amount of people will move on to higher ones, especially once they become more comfortable with the game and become less scared. But I can see why people say the mode is bad though. Also, the poll should probably include a "I don't care" option because that probably represents a large group. Done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) Don't really care IS can make the easiest mode a literal press to win button and I won't give a fuck as long as I get a good solid Lunatic out of it if they took Normal Phoenix and labelled THAT Lunatic and sold it to me then I'd have a problem Edited July 27, 2015 by Thor Odinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughx Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) There are some games that include cheat codes or a cheating console (PC version of TESIV:Oblivion and TESV:Skyrim). So I don't think that should matter much... It's your choice... It isn't like the other harder options were removed. Edited July 27, 2015 by Naughx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landmaster Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I don't care, personally, since I won't be using it, but I do find the concept rather absurd. I mean, who's that bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I don't care, personally, since I won't be using it, but I do find the concept rather absurd. I mean, who's that bad? Perhaps it would make some of the harder difficulties of Fates easier to bear. My impression is that Pheonix mode is listed with Classic, and Casual, rather than the difficulty levels of the game. In Lunatic mode, the ability to resurrect in-battle may allow average players to complete those chapters. And who knows, maybe there will be a difficulty level in the future that forces players to ABUSE pheonix mode! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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