CaitlynMellark Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I might sound really, really dumb But I don't understand how these seals work I have tried to read what they mean, but I don't understand. How would I know what their second class is? How come Kamui can Buddy Seal anyone with A support but everyone else can only A+ one? What would Flannel & Midoriko give people? (I know Nishiki would give some kind of Spellcaster class) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonretic Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Long story short. Buddy and Marriage seals are kinda the same, but you can use the Marriage Seals only on those characters that are married between each other, while Buddy Seals work on characters that have A support between each other. When you use either a Buddy or Marriage Seal with a unit that unit has access to the base class of the target unit. For example like you said: if Flannel and Nishiki have A support between each other you can use a Buddy Seal on Flannel, he will get access to the Spellcaster class from Nishiki and that is because the Fox Spirit (base class of Nishiki) class is an exception when using Buddy Seal, so in this scenario the second class that Nishiki can be is choose as the class that Flannel can get with a Buddy Seal. (the same goes for Garou class from Flannel, because the Garou class is not affected by the Buddy Seal, the second class that Flannel can be is a Fighter, so Nishiki will get the Fighter class from Flannel instead of Garou). To further explain I'm going to use your example, Flannel and Midoriko even though this support is not possible between them, I'm going to explain anyway. So Midoriko's base class is Herb Merchant and Flannel is Garou. I'm using a Buddy Seal on Midoriko and choose Flannel as my target unit. Because Flannels Garou class can't be exchanged Midoriko will get instead the second class that Flannel would be, that is the Fighter. In this case Midoriko's base class, Herb Merchant can be exchanged with a Buddy Seal so Flannel will get the Herb Merchant class from Midoriko. The Buddy Seal is a Reclasing Seal in its own and as I've explained up if when you use the Buddy Seal on Flannel with Midoriko, if at the time you use it Flannel is a Garou he will reclass in an Herb Merchant and Midoriko will reclass in a Fighter. Some exceptions that apply when you use the Buddy Seal:The Avatar can use it on any unit of the same gender they achieve an A Support with, but no unit can use the Avatar as their buddy. Nohr Prince, Singer, Fox Spirit, Garou and Villager aren't transfarable with a Buddy Seal. And finally the Marriage Seal works the same like a buddy seal, being another reclassing item. Only this time two units need to have S support between themselves, meaning that they need to be married, they can use this seal to reclass into their spouse's primary base class. The excpetions this time being only the Singer, Garou and the Nohr Prince classes which again are not affected by either the Buddy nor Marriage Seals. And for the sake of giving an example. If Xander and Nyx achieve an S-Support, Xander will gain the Dark Mage class while Nyx will gain the Cavalier class. (Btw I took this from FE Wiki, too lazy to write another ex myself). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayvee94 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Flannel will normally give Fighter. And Outlaw if his buddy/wife is already primarily a Fighter Midoriko will give Herb Merchant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TanatatKnight Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Is it true that the A+ support don't have to be mutual? Example: Lazward A+ with Flannel for the Fighter class but Flannel can A+ Nishiki for the Spellcaster class without obtaining the mercenary class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riolumaster Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) Check here for the units' base and secondary class sets: http://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-fates/nohrian-characters/class-sets/and http://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-fates/hoshidan-characters/class-sets/ If they share the same primary class then both units gain access to their buddy/spouses's secondary SubakixHinoka: Subaki gains Lance Fighter and Hinoka gains Samurai If they both have different primary classes they gain each others primary SakuraxTsukuyomi: Sakura gains Spellcaster and Tsukuyomi gains Priest If one unit already has their sspouse/buddy's primary as their secondary, they will NOT gain their partner's secondary SubakixLuna: Subaki gains Mercenary, but since Luna has Pegasus Warrior as her secondary she gains nothing In special cases, the unit will pass their secondary class if it cannot be passed via Buddying/Marriage SilasxMozume: Since Villager cannot be passed, Silas will gain Mozume's sevondary, Bowman If a normal unit and a special unit share the same class, the normal unit gains access to the special unit's hidden tertiary class Flannel and Arthur: Since Garou cannot be passed, Arthur would gain Fighter, but since he already has Fighter, he would gain access to Flannel's tertiary class, Outlaw The special classes are: Nohr Prince, Singer, Villager, Garou, and Nine-Tailed Fox. A+ ranks can only be acheived once and are same gender only. Edited September 27, 2015 by riolumaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riolumaster Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Is it true that the A+ support don't have to be mutual? Example: Lazward A+ with Flannel for the Fighter class but Flannel can A+ Nishiki for the Spellcaster class without obtaining the mercenary class.Yes. Unlike Marriage Buddy Sealing is not mutual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwakeningFates Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Would Kaze and Saizou get nothing from buddy sealing with each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrophys Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I believe that's the case; they'd get nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyanko Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 With buddy seals and A+ rank, I don't get why characters can't have access to both classes. In some cases, characters might not get anything from it, and there's such a lack of same-gender supports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooru Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) With buddy seals and A+ rank, I don't get why characters can't have access to both classes. In some cases, characters might not get anything from it, and there's such a lack of same-gender supports. Reclassing is not everything. Support bonus and pairing-up stats depend on support levels. Edited October 7, 2015 by Tooru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoaGalaxy Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Well what I would say is to probably prevent having "too much choice" (Blasphemy!) but it does feel a little lazy nonetheless, especially if it is due to and/or a result of some characters being....overly favored, so to speak. I haven't really looked at a full breakdown though.....the list is fairly complicated as is (and marriages have to be mutual. and buddies are limited) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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