HowAreYaBud Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Except stat-wise, support-wise, avalibility-wise... You know, the stuff that isn't completely inconsequential. Yeah, pretty much XD But I could never really level up Colm that well. I don't know why, but I could never get him past level 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Yeah, pretty much XD But I could never really level up Colm that well. I don't know why, but I could never get him past level 10. Even with the numerous monster chapters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 Ninji, not everyone has Colm fight. This is pretty much the reason I made the poll: to see if people train Colm or dump him when they get Rennac. I'll be voting Rennac. If all they do is thievery, Rennac is better, and that's usually all they do for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowAreYaBud Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Even with the numerous monster chapters? Nope. I'm not good at leveling up thieves. They always die when I attack an enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Ninji, not everyone has Colm fight. This is pretty much the reason I made the poll: to see if people train Colm or dump him when they get Rennac.I'll be voting Rennac. If all they do is thievery, Rennac is better, and that's usually all they do for me. I thought we were talking about the characters, not "Who uses whom". >_> If we were talking about characters, Colm is the obvious winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 I thought we were talking about the characters, not "Who uses whom". >_> If we were talking about characters, Colm is the obvious winner. Did you read the first post? I realize it's a bit confusing, but I wanted to see who people used for thieving utility, and you're talking about him being a better fighter. That's obviously true, but it isn't the point of the poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) Fine. Even when talking about utility, Colm wins. Unless you're constantly covering Rennac's ass, then he's going to be a liability. Without ranks, you're free to use promotion items on a whim, so it's not like there'll be a real reason not to promote Colm. Edited October 1, 2008 by ChaosNinji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 Fine. Even when talking about utility, Colm wins. Unless you're constantly covering Rennac's ass, then he's going to be a liability. Without ranks, you're free to use promotion items on a whim, so it's not like there'll be a real reason not to promote Colm. And that's the kind of answer I was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Glad to help. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Colm, he's easy to level up, can fight well and has awesome avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Ninji, not everyone has Colm fight. This is pretty much the reason I made the poll: to see if people train Colm or dump him when they get Rennac.I'll be voting Rennac. If all they do is thievery, Rennac is better, and that's usually all they do for me. Ninji gets massive support. <3 How is Rennac ever better than Colm in Theif utility? Considering that Rennac has all of two chapters of necessary Theif utility (Chapter 15 and 16), while Colm's utility is for virtually the entire game, I can't see how Rennac is better in any way. :o Otherwise, Colm is still much better. He has actual supports (Neimi A, Moulder B or Kyle A, Moulder B) and is actually a benefit for the team at start. Rennac is simply awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 Swordsalmon, if Colm didn't fight, and therefore is hardly level 10, Rennac would be better, yes? It's hardly a matter of stats for me; I need a thief, and Rennac comes good enough to do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Swordsalmon, if Colm didn't fight, and therefore is hardly level 10, Rennac would be better, yes? It's hardly a matter of stats for me; I need a thief, and Rennac comes good enough to do the job. Colm's utility lasts far longer than Rennac ever does, as the latter doesn't exist for almost the entire game. As such, Colm's utilities are considerably more valuable, and that alone makes Colm much better than Rennac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) Basically, Colm is better than Rennac overall, but you're better off using Rennac if Colm's durability is much worse. It's like what happened in my recent FE6 HM playthrough: I didn't bother giving Saul much EXP so in Sacae, I ditched him and started using Cecilia since she had better move, same staff rank and def/HP. Edited October 1, 2008 by ThunderMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) Basically, Colm is better than Rennac overall, but you're better off using Rennac if Colm's durability is much worse. It's like what happened in my recent FE6 HM playthrough: I didn't bother giving Saul much EXP so in Sacae, I ditched him and started using Cecilia since she had better move, same staff rank and def/HP. Except that Rennac can replace Colm for two chapters, while in your example, Cecilia can replace Saul for about half the game. EDIT: Why the heck would Cecilia be used in HM anyways? She's already bad, but is truly awful in HM. :o Edited October 1, 2008 by Swordsalmon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) Simple, in my playthrough, Saul can't use a Physic, he's got less durability, 5 move. I only use Cecilia for healing and right now i'm on chapter 20x Sacae where I need 3 restore staff users (Niime, Clarine and Cecilia). IMO, if you already know your way around HM, you can freely use any1 you want and have little trouble. In my current playthrough, Roy is level 14 with 8 STR and 13 speed (easy pickings for many enemies) and and he's not gonna get any levels... His only purpose is to kill Idoun and conquer Thrones. Some characters were used for like 1 or 2 chapters and it's not hindering my main units. Edited October 1, 2008 by ThunderMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Ah, I see. Originally, I thought you'd be using her for an extra Aircalibur user, but Physic works too. ^_^ Of course, just Dancing for Niime or Clarine is easier and less dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Not for me, I find that using Cecilia is easier thanks to her 8 mov and Lalum can easily get left behind and would need to be rescued to keep up. Cecilia doesn't have that problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torifae Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I kinda pick randomly since I have Rennac either way. So it doesn't matter who I choose really <.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashy B Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Colm for early arrival, supports and better stats by the time I get Rennac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 colm because he has blue hair and doesn't afraid of anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Colm Rennac-FAILS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 At least Rennac is better than he was in Japanese version. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmanccl Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Colm's utility lasts far longer than Rennac ever does, as the latter doesn't exist for almost the entire game. As such, Colm's utilities are considerably more valuable, and that alone makes Colm much better than Rennac. Which means that you use Colm for the maps you don't have Rennac and dump him if he's not up to par once Rennac does join. Just because a guy is useful for "a longer period of time" doesn't mean he's better. It just means he gets used. Sort of like how Tauroneo is the reason I'm able to pump as much experience out of units as I can in 1-6-1 in Radiant Dawn. Remember that Fire Emblem is a strategy game first and RPG second. Hell, I used Marisa for thieving utility my first playthrough after she promoted to assassin. IIRC they can still thief items and use lockpicks. Lockpicks aren't terribly difficult to get ahold of if you know what you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Assassins can't steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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