Metal Rabbit Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 you'll have to get in line, ninji :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 There's a waiting list, I assume? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 mcain just wins lets just leave it at that Yeah i pretty much agree with what Kiba said lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Back to the subject - Palin was herself. As flawed as she may be, that was her in that debate. Herself? I'm guessing you have a reason why instead of giving her own opinions, well over 75% of the time, her sentences started with "John McCain..."? Hell, it was so bad that we were joking and said we'd make a drinking game and take a shot every time she said that. And he flip flops a lot. That accusation is a typical republican tactic used time, and time again. It's effect can be seen most effectively with the Election involving John Kerry. Hitler changed things as well. That doesn't mean it made things better. I'd like you to read this quote: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." there's an article about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law Read it please. And yeah. Middle class is pretty irrelevant. It's not about classes, it's about people themselves. Obama is a socialist. Which goes agaisnt the idea of capitalism that this country was founded on. We gotta stop focusing on this class or that class and focus on people. Excuse me? Irrelavent? 85% of the population of the US makes under 100k a year (statistics here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_inc...e_United_States ), and the united states is a BALANCE of Capitalism and Socialism. We are not fucking solely Capitalist! To say that shows exactly how ignorant you are to matters! 5. She's not a stunt. She stood up agaisnt the oil companies, she technically has more experience dealing with common folk than any of the other candidates simply because she's a Governer. And the others are just senators. And she has a lot of confidence. Stood up against oil companies? Then why is she letting McCain go on with his plans to give Exxon-Mobile a huge tax break? Lyle it's a debate, were not hostile1. they don't 2. no one is saying otherwise 3. now your being stupid 4. No, that is incorrect, name three good point of Palin 5. She was a stunt, it worked at first, but backfired the second she opened her mouth, and she has no experience and uses poor diction, honestly do you think McCain is that dumb as to pick her for his running mate if it wasn't a stunt to get publicity. Confidence means nothing if you don't have skill Iraq and Afghanistan are two complemently different things, there irrelevant to each other No, we shouldn't be hostile, but calling somoene plain stupid is. And you're right, Iraq and Afghanistan are two separate matters: Iraq we should have never been in, and Afghanistan we have a legit reason to be there. Right. Oh wait, no, wrong. Now, even considering other things, just think about this. This woman is a creationist. That in and of itself is enough to turn me off, but there's so much more. Have you seen the number of lies she made up, the number of questions she dodged? Do you understand what she did with her power? Can you prove it though? Slander is one thing, but you need to PROVE it. Here's your proof: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/fa...lin_debate.html Biden slipped up on mostly minor stuff, while Palin's fuckups took the cake. Why do you care so much it's a bloody election. The only thing that happens is you vote for someone whose "lies" are more appealing than the other side. The in about five months you start bitching about how the elected president is fucking up the place in the ass. And saying "We should have elected the loser" if you are on the losing side, or "he'll do better" if you're on the winning side Simply because this is our fucking country. Learn some fucking patriotism. Final note: YOU DON'T AVOID THE QUESTION IN A DEBATE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serene Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Back to the subject - Herself? I'm guessing you have a reason why instead of giving her own opinions, well over 75% of the time, her sentences started with "John McCain..."? Hell, it was so bad that we were joking and said we'd make a drinking game and take a shot every time she said that. That accusation is a typical republican tactic used time, and time again. It's effect can be seen most effectively with the Election involving John Kerry. I'd like you to read this quote: there's an article about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law Read it please. Excuse me? Irrelavent? 85% of the population of the US makes under 100k a year (statistics here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_inc...e_United_States ), and the united states is a BALANCE of Capitalism and Socialism. We are not fucking solely Capitalist! To say that shows exactly how ignorant you are to matters! Stood up against oil companies? Then why is she letting McCain go on with his plans to give Exxon-Mobile a huge tax break? No, we shouldn't be hostile, but calling somoene plain stupid is. And you're right, Iraq and Afghanistan are two separate matters: Iraq we should have never been in, and Afghanistan we have a legit reason to be there. Can you prove it though? Slander is one thing, but you need to PROVE it. Here's your proof: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/fa...lin_debate.html Biden slipped up on mostly minor stuff, while Palin's fuckups took the cake. Simply because this is our fucking country. Learn some fucking patriotism. Never had any, personally Bushes screw ups just don't make me feel all that wanting to deal with politics anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Wow Jyousa is the complete opposite of Vincent Anyway, I have to agree with some of the points being rasied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I don't let people go on with false assumptions. McCain's not AS bad as everyone makes him out to be, but he DOES favor the rich, and his plans for Iraq suck BALLS. As for Oil companies: It bears repeating, as we've reminded readers before, that oil companies themselves don't make donations. It's illegal under federal law for corporations to donate directly to candidates and has been since 1918. The ad refers to donations from executives and employees of oil companies, given either directly or through company-sponsored political action committees, or PACs.Both candidates accept donations from individual employees of oil companies. In fact, when Obama claimed in an ad last March that "I don't take money from oil companies," we criticized him for being a little too slick. The CRP puts Obama's total from oil and gas donors at $394,465. Based on CRP's figures, McCain's oil and gas donations account for just 92 cents out of every $100 he's raised. Obama's oil and gas total comes to 12 cents per $100. That's a significant difference between the two candidates, and it's clear that the industry is favoring McCain with its donations. Whether that puts him "in the pocket" of the industry is a judgment we'll leave to our readers. link here: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/ob...rstatement.html Obama does over exaggerate, as does any candidate. That's to be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Well Ninji does have a good point.But, do we really want a president who does nothing but point the finger of blame on someone else? Why would you want someone like that? And the whole point of that was to see if Palin could handle the spotlight. And I feel that she did. But I think we're done here. All McCain and Palin see to do is attack Obama. It's what they always do... Palin didn't shit her pants, true. But Biden actually said something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) Never had any, personally Bushes screw ups just don't make me feel all that wanting to deal with politics anymore Bush....he has completely lost it.....the power has probably has gotten to his head. The guy needs theraphy. Anyway, what George Bush did shouldn't discourage people to deal with policitcs....the problem is only going to get worse, if people tend to ignore the problems. Also every government does that..... even in he UK, when they can't handle pressure they try to find an easy way out or ignore the problem. The public should have more say to pressure the government, it usually works.... Edited October 4, 2008 by Luxord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Totally done here. ttly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I was watching part of the debate on CNN (i think) and they had those scorecards from 6 people. One dude upped Palin's score everytime she said "John McCain and the American people". Another dude upped Biden everytime he said "George Bush". Of course it's exxageration but it was funny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Yeah at that one point Biden was getting a little carried away there with "George Bush", but at elast he wasn't like that through the ENTIRE debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Methinks the debate would make for a good drinking game. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Hehe. Yup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufasa Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I was pretty hyped up when Palin finally called Biden out about him living in the past after he mentioned Bush for the 20th time. He shut up about Bush after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I was pretty hyped up when Palin finally called Biden out about him living in the past after he mentioned Bush for the 20th time. He shut up about Bush after that. Ironically, Palin wouldn't shut up about things that Obama hadn't actually done, or things that McCain had done as well. You could SEE Biden holding back against her too, because he said he wanted to be respectful in the debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Yea, Jyosua owned the topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serene Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Yea, Jyosua owned the topic I'm having a feeling that Jyosua is some sort of political analizer or something. That or studying Politics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Damnit Serene I never know who you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Honestly I don't have a preference towards either of the candidates, but I do not approve of saying things about someone that either aren't true, or aren't proven. I am the middle person really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted October 5, 2008 Author Share Posted October 5, 2008 Cythia is really one of the only people here whoes political opinion I value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canas is back Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Obama is just pissed at Palin that she took his campaign platform (I.E. the one about being a washington outsider) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 MAVERICK MAVERICK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 MAVERICK MAVERICK **takes two shots of tequila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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