Together We Ride Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) Again, there are plot spoilers here. Sorry if this was brought up before, but judging by the My Room lines from Azura, it looks like you can still totally marry her, even though she's your cousin. Think NoA changed the story a bit to make it so there's no blood relation, or did they go full incest? Edited February 18, 2016 by Together We Ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I'm not 100% sure, but the world map synopsis states that Mikoto is Vallite royalty. So I'm betting the story is still the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Together We Ride Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 I'm not 100% sure, but the world map synopsis states that Mikoto is Vallite royalty. So I'm betting the story is still the same. Interesting, this would be the first time in western FE history where they'd allow cousins to marry. Even Awakening was censored to just make them "companions", which is what I was half expecting here. But those My Room lines sure do seem to indicate that her and Corrin can be lovers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time the Crestfallen Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Mikoto is Vallite Royalty Vallite Royalty Royalty ... ... ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) Inb4 Mikoto and Arete are not sisters but best friends. Edited February 18, 2016 by Azz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Together We Ride Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 Inb4 Mikoto and Arete are not sisters but best friends. I wouldn't be shocked honestly, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Honestly, first cousin marriages are less "squicky" than sibling (foster/adopted included). They're also actually legal in several western countries. So, I don't have much of an issue with this staying the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) Would having a marriage between cousins even be an issue? Like, I remember from Tales of the Abyss that Luke and Natalia were in an arranged marriage despite being cousins, and that wasn't altered in the English translation in any way. Edited February 18, 2016 by BrightBow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Together We Ride Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 Would having a marriage between cousins even be an issue? Like, I remember from Tales of the Abyss that Luke and Natalia were in an arranged marriage despite being cousins, and that wasn't altered in the English translation in any way. At least in North America, it's largely regarded as incest. Additionally, NoA thought it was issue enough in Awakening, since Owain and any of Chrom's daughters would just be called "companions", should they get an S rank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezrius Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I know we're talking about Nintendo here, but I still can't help but laugh and think, "Meanwhile, on Game of Thrones..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I know we're talking about Nintendo here, but I still can't help but laugh and think, "Meanwhile, on Game of Thrones..." This XD. (Looks at Jamie and Cersie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Inb4 Mikoto and Arete are not sisters but best friends. Here's a question though: what would change? I mean, I'm not necessarily advocating a change here, but if they did choose to change it just in case, it would literally not impact the game or their relationship in any way since no one even seems to acknowledge this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time the Crestfallen Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Here's a question though: what would change? I mean, I'm not necessarily advocating a change here, but if they did choose to change it just in case, it would literally not impact the game or their relationship in any way since no one even seems to acknowledge this. Isn't that a reason to change it though? It's literally the most pointless reveal of the game, happens in the last minute of a late-game chapter, never gets brought up again and kills the mood of the entire scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Yeah, the whole sister thing is one line. I don't even think Corrin says it out loud that he and Azura are cousins (Like Azura is not even in the cutscene). They could literally not mention Mikoto has any connection to Arete, and still the plot would be unaffected. Honestly, it would not surprise me though if Treehouse felt the need to change it from sisters to best friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Isn't that a reason to change it though? It's literally the most pointless reveal of the game, happens in the last minute of a late-game chapter, never gets brought up again and kills the mood of the entire scene. But think of the weeblings! They'll swarm YouTube and shout about censorship and the glorious infallibility of the proud Nippon writing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I know we're talking about Nintendo here, but I still can't help but laugh and think, "Meanwhile, on Game of Thrones..." Omfg this made my day. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Nightblood Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Honestly, they're probably going to change that line. But think of the weeblings! They'll swarm YouTube and shout about censorship and the glorious infallibility of the proud Nippon writing!Well hello there new signature quote. Edited February 19, 2016 by Hunter Nightblood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark the Tactician Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Again, there are plot spoilers here. Sorry if this was brought up before, but judging by the My Room lines from Azura, it looks like you can still totally marry her, even though she's your cousin. Think NoA changed the story a bit to make it so there's no blood relation, or did they go full incest? Well.... there's one pairing I won't be bothering with then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abvora Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) I'm not 100% sure, but the world map synopsis states that Mikoto is Vallite royalty. So I'm betting the story is still the same. Could be that they're cousins now, instead of sisters, which makes Corrin and Azura second cousins--far enough for most people to be comfortable with. Or one of them married into it--technically Mikoto would be royalty if she married Anankos. I'd honestly be surprised if they left their blood relation in, though. It's handled so poorly by the story that cutting it out would change literally nothing, while keeping it might upset some people in the veins of "I married my COUSIN?!" Edited February 19, 2016 by Abvora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Nightblood Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) $Wmミコト|3$w0|$Wsミコト|$Wa$E笑,|$SvpVOICE_MIKOTO_EVT_04|You are.$k$p$Eã‚メ,|Arete, the former queen of Valla, is\nmy older sister.$k$p$E苦,æ±—|Because of the curse, I wasn't able to\nsay anything about her before now...$k\n$Wsミコト Oh boy. And yes, it's literally just this one line. Even better: $SvpVOICE_MIKOTO_EVT_02|Listen, $Nu. I have something...\nvery important to tell you.$k$p$b表情("プレイヤー",普通)|I was born here, in Valla. And you...\nYou are part of the Vallite royal line. That came before this. In other words, they could have removed that line and NOTHING would have changed. I'm still marrying Azura though Edited February 19, 2016 by Hunter Nightblood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwlr Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 At least in North America, it's largely regarded as incest. Additionally, NoA thought it was issue enough in Awakening, since Owain and any of Chrom's daughters would just be called "companions", should they get an S rank. It's incest no matter where you go, but universally in the US second cousins can marry, most states allow first cousins to marry. Whether there is a stigma attached or not doesn't really have a bearing on the legality it all, so it should be perfectly fine for them to marry in a medieval styled game where it would have been extremely common for royals to marry in their own bloodline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Nightblood Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 So then, I'm Vallite royalty... Interesting. There's no time to think about this right now. We still need to defeat Anankos and win this war. For Hoshido and for Nohr. Mother, I will do this for you. I will bring peace to this world. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 So this is from the text dump. Arete, the former queen of Valla, is\nmy older sister. Corrin and Azura are still cousins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Nightblood Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 So this is from the text dump. Arete, the former queen of Valla, is\nmy older sister. Corrin and Azura are still cousins. I already mentioned that on the previous page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time the Crestfallen Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Two or three lines of dialogue. That's all they had to change and they couldn't be arsed. *sigh* Still my OTP and I'm gonna marry them but goddamn it Treehouse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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