Pokemon Sun and Moon General Discussion: Official Site updated to include every new 'mon

[Lethakitty]

i dont like gen 1 but they only showed gen 1 new forms and hinted another one. I hope it is not all gen 1 pokemon i would love to see new forms of hoenn and unova pokemon

[Water Mage]

About the new grass Pokemon, there's something interesting in their bios:

"Fomantis is nocturnal, and it performs photosynthesis while it sleeps during the day by spreading out its leaves in all directions. Because of the danger of staying in the same location two days in a row, Fomantis begins its search for the next day’s spot as soon as the sun sets. For Fomantis, photosynthesis is not just a source of energy—it is a necessity to achieve the strength and brilliant coloration of its evolved form. Photosynthesis is precious to Fomantis, and it will fiercely attack those who get in the way of that process. Fomantis excel at long-range attacks like Razor Leaf and Solar Beam. Solar Beam is indeed a powerful move, but since it uses up the energy that the Pokémon has stored through photosynthesis, Fomantis rarely uses it."

"Lurantis draws opponents near to itself with its flowerlike appearance and aroma—and then it takes them down. It’s said to be the most gorgeous of all Grass-type Pokémon, due to its brilliant coloration and elegant moves. Lurantis’s appearance is maintained through detailed grooming. It will trust a Trainer who does a good job of caring for it, but it will apparently have a difficult time growing closer to a lazy Trainer. Lurantis is the Totem Pokémon of Lush Jungle, the site of an Akala Island trial. It will overwhelm trial-goers with the powerful combos it unleashes with the Pokémon allies it calls."

I guessing they are going to be exclusive to Pokemon Moon, while Bounsweet and it's evolution, if it has one, are going to be exclusive to Pokemon Sun.

[Nym]

AHHAHAHA THAT EXECUTOR, HIS FORM IS SO FUNNY TO WATCH, HE EVEN GOT ANOTHER TINY HEAD ON HIS TAIL.

I WANT A VULPIX, THAT'S IT, EVEN IF THERE'S NO NEW EEVEE FORM, I'LL BUY THE GAME JUST FOR THAT.

The rest looks really nice, I'm so hype for this.

[Emeraldfox]

I guessing they are going to be exclusive to Pokemon Moon, while Bounsweet and it's evolution, if it has one, are going to be exclusive to Pokemon Sun.

If your speculation is correct, I'm getting Moon version.

[Lethakitty]

i was on team moon already and nothing can change my mind

[Water Mage]

Yet more new info!

[Nym]

Oh wait, now do I think about it: what would happen if for example if you trade a executor/vulpix/ninetailes/sanshrew/sandslash from another game to Alola? Do they keep their old form or do they transform into the new forms?

[The Draco Knight]

About the new grass Pokemon, there's something interesting in their bios:

"Fomantis is nocturnal, and it performs photosynthesis while it sleeps during the day by spreading out its leaves in all directions. Because of the danger of staying in the same location two days in a row, Fomantis begins its search for the next day’s spot as soon as the sun sets. For Fomantis, photosynthesis is not just a source of energy—it is a necessity to achieve the strength and brilliant coloration of its evolved form. Photosynthesis is precious to Fomantis, and it will fiercely attack those who get in the way of that process. Fomantis excel at long-range attacks like Razor Leaf and Solar Beam. Solar Beam is indeed a powerful move, but since it uses up the energy that the Pokémon has stored through photosynthesis, Fomantis rarely uses it."

"Lurantis draws opponents near to itself with its flowerlike appearance and aroma—and then it takes them down. It’s said to be the most gorgeous of all Grass-type Pokémon, due to its brilliant coloration and elegant moves. Lurantis’s appearance is maintained through detailed grooming. It will trust a Trainer who does a good job of caring for it, but it will apparently have a difficult time growing closer to a lazy Trainer. Lurantis is the Totem Pokémon of Lush Jungle, the site of an Akala Island trial. It will overwhelm trial-goers with the powerful combos it unleashes with the Pokémon allies it calls."

I guessing they are going to be exclusive to Pokemon Moon, while Bounsweet and it's evolution, if it has one, are going to be exclusive to Pokemon Sun.

May I ask you what bring to think such a thing?

Not to be rude of course, It's just that I don't see anything in the description that suggest it.

[Water Mage]

May I ask you what bring to think such a thing?

Not to be rude of course, It's just that I don't see anything in the description that suggest it.

Formantis is a nocturnal Pokemon, and one of the versions is called Pokemon Moon.

[DarkDestr0yer61]

Wait. The player does weird poses to activate their Z-moves? I am calling it right now, the player character is actually Ginyu.

In all seriousness though, this reveal was cool

There something interesting about this bio:


This guy is a Fire-type user, so could it be that Marowak is going to have an Alola form and is going to be Fire-type?

The Ghost Rider, but in Pokemon form?

[Water Mage]

The Ghost Rider, but in Pokemon form?

Calling it, Alola Marowak is going to be Ghost/Fire.

[Nym]

Hey, remember the ghost mother Marowak back in gen1?

Would be a nice touch if Marowak was actually Ghost type lol.

[carefreejules]

I'm super hyped for the dancing birbs

[Vashiane]

Alright, here's a quick run-down on all the information from the new video!

Alola Forms

Certain Pokemon from previous generations have adapted to the Alola climate in new and surprising ways, gaining new appearances, new typing, and new abilities.

So far there's been 5 new Alola forms announced.

Alolian Exeggutor

Alolian Vulpix & Alolian Ninetails

Alolian Sandshrew & Alolian Sandslash

It's also worth a note that every Alola form we've seen here has a brand-new typing! Well, sort-of. Exeggutor shares a typing with Mega Sceptile, but as Sceptile isn't normally a Grass/Dragon, it's up to personal preference whether to consider it as new. However, Ice/Fairy and Ice/Steel are without a doubt completely new typings.

New Region Pokemon

We've also seen some new Alola Pokemon, including evolutions and pre-evolutions to Pokemon we've seen before. Counting the various forms of Oricorio as separate Pokemon (and not the different Minior cores as at the moment they seem to be only vary aesthetically) we have a total of 9 new Pokemon shown.

Oricorio

Oricorio is a bird Pokemon with typing variations depending on what island it's found on (unfortunately, matching a variation to a specific island is tricky due to the nondescript locations shown, however, it's possible that they're listed in the order of the islands you can visit). It's also unknown (but very likely) that each variation will have a different stat distribution. It has a new unique move Revelation Dance that changes its typing depending on the variation that uses it (ie. Baile = Fire RD; Pom-Pom = Electric RD; Pa'u = Psychic RD; Sensu = Ghost RD) It also has a brand-new ability, Dancer, which allows it to copy the stat-boosting Dance moves that its opponent uses for free.

Minior

So far, it appears that the Minior cores are not variations like Oricorio, and are simply aesthetic differences similar to Gen VI's Flabebe. Shields Down is also a brand new ability that functions similarly to Darmantian's Zen Mode. At half HP, Minior strips away its armor to take on a more offensive stance.

Gumshoos

As shown, this is the second (and seemingly final) evolution of Yungoos. It also has a brand-new ability Stakeout, though what it does is currently unknown.

Fomantis & Lurantis

This is a Pokemon of interest as well due to it having a never-before-seen move, Solar Blade, which appears to be a Physical Grass-type move. There's also a possibility of Fomantis and Lurantis being exclusive to Pokemon Moon due to it being nocturnal, but this isn't yet confirmed, though still worth noting.

Mudbray

Mudbray is the pre-evolution of Mudsdale. (Also I'm not certain if the move it uses in the trailer is something new, or simply a new animation for Earthquake. Also worth noting just in case.

Ride Pokemon

The trailer also shows off a new mechanic called Ride Pokemon, which is mentioned to be a service. It appears that this new mechanic will allow the player to traverse obscure or perilous areas with ease, and the Ride Pokemon can offer transportation over land, sea, and air. This also raises the question about the purpose of HM moves such as Surf or Fly - it may be likely that instead, you'll simply be able to summon a Ride Pokemon to take you wherever you need to go. Currently, the Pokemon available for this service are Tauros, Mudsdale, Stoutland (as seen from a previously revealed image below), Sharpedo, and Charizard.

The Island Challenge

The Island Challenge is a quest your trainer can embark on to strengthen themselves, by travelling to the four islands and completing various trials in order to be able to challenge the Island Challenge Champion named Woo. Each Trial has a captain, that seemingly gives you the trial and then allows you to battle them to prove your worthiness for the next island's trial. Like Oricorio, it's difficult to place the island each Trial and its captain will be found on, however, we do have clues.

Trial Captain Mallow

Mallow specializes in Grass-type Pokemon and her island's Trial is found in a location known as Lush Jungle, and her trial may consist of finding four rare ingredients for her (or this could be a personal quest).

Trial Captain Lana

Lana specializes in Water-type Pokemon and her trial may consist of finding the source of disturbances in the local waters (or this could be a personal quest for her.)

Trial Captain Sophocles

Sophocles specializes in Electric-type Pokemon, and while his introduction reveals very little, his trial may take place inside or around what looks to be his laboratory.

Trial Captain Kiawe

Kiawe specializes in Fire-type Pokemon and his trial is specifically stated to be "quite different" than the others you have faced before, and explicitly is a test of observations of various dances. Kiawe is also interesting as it's a bit easier to pinpoint where he might be, as there's only one island that has a volcano (and seemingly, lava).

At the end of each trial, there will be a battle with a Token Pokemon, a special Pokemon with a powerful aura that boosts its stats and gives it the ability to call ally Pokemon to its aid in battle, resulting in multiple Pokemon against your one. Currently, two Pokemon we know will be Token Pokemon are Gumshoos, with an aura that boosts its defense and is likely fought at the end of Kiawe's trial, and Lurantis, which is likely fought at the end of Mallow's trial.

When each trial is cleared, you can fight the Kahunas, elite trainers of each island that will serve as the final test. The Kahuna for the first island (Melemele Island) is confirmed to be Hala, the old man who gives you your starter Pokemon at the beginning of the game. He calls the battle against him a "grand trial", before officially showing off his battle animation and introducing himself as Island Kahuna Hala.

Z-Moves

Z-Moves are a brand-new mechanic, appearing to stem from the bracelet the player character wears. Z-Moves are an extremely powerful attack with 18 variations, one for each Pokemon type. The power that creates this attack is known as Z-Power, and is summoned by a unique dance done by the trainer. 4 of the 18 Z-Moves were shown in the trailer.

Electric-type Z-Move: Gigavolt Havoc

Grass-type Z-Move: Bloom Doom

Fire-type Z-Move: Inferno Overdrive

Water-type Z-Move: Hydro Vortex

It appears to function for dual-type Pokemon based off the first type listed. I.E. a Flying/Psychic type will having a Flying Z-Move, while a Psychic/Flying type will have a Psychic Z-Move. (Also worth noting, is that the Z-moves shown also correspond with the specialties of the Trial Captains).

And I do believe that is absolutely everything! Sorry about this taking so long, there was a lot to record here. I'll post my own opinions in a separate post.

Edited August 1, 2016 by Vashiane

[Ebony]

Exeggutor's Alola form is so dumb I basically love it. I do genuinely love the Alola Vulpix and Ninetails though. I want one, definitely.

[Magical Glace]

Stoutland appears as a Ride Pokémon in the Japanese Trailer, Vash. It appears to work like a Dousing Machine.

[Nym]

About Minior:

Apparently, his first form is a defensive form and also allow it to be immune to status conditions. However, at 50% of his health, Minior will break his armor, giving it a some kind of attack form. Source: Serebii

So this is some kind of balanced version of Aegislash.

Edited August 1, 2016 by Nym

[Magical Glace]

About Minior:

Aparentely, his first form is a defensive form and also allow it to be immune to status conditions. However, at 50% of his health, Minior will break his armor, giving it a some kinf of attack form. Source: Serebii

So this is some kind of balanced version of Aegislash.

Sounds more like Zen Mode, or to a greater extent, the TPDP version of it (Were-Hakutaku), due to the half health thing. Edited August 1, 2016 by Glaceon Mage

[Quintessence]

Good notes there Vash.

According to serebii, Minior's ability is Shields Down, which protects it from status affections and gives him high defenses. When it reaches HP below half, it destroys its shell and enters sort of an attack mode. This reminds me of Aegislash with Stance form. Hopefully, it is similar.

Regarding the captains, I wonder if Tapu Koko guardians share the typing with the captains specialty. Like 4 guardians with Fire/Fairy, Electric/Fairy, Grass/Fairy and Water/Fairy. Or if their typing are related to Oricorio.

I'm loving the Z moves and goofy Exeggutor. Rowlet BLOOM DOOM GO

[Nym]

Sounds more like Zen Mode, or to a greater extent, the TPDP version of it (Were-Hakutaku), due to the half health thing.

Yea, the only difference is that Zen mode also add a type.

[Magical Glace]

Yea, the only difference is that Zen mode also add a type.

And didn't add any speed, which it seems this does.

[Vashiane]

Stoutland appears as a Ride Pokémon in the Japanese Trailer, Vash. It appears to work like a Dousing Machine.

Thank you! I tracked down the image, so it's up in the main post as well. I'll change the wording, however.

About Minior:

Apparently, his first form is a defensive form and also allow it to be immune to status conditions. However, at 50% of his health, Minior will break his armor, giving it a some kind of attack form. Source: Serebii

So this is some kind of balanced version of Aegislash.

Good notes there Vash.

According to serebii, Minior's ability is Shields Down, which protects it from status affections and gives him high defenses. When it reaches HP below half, it destroys its shell and enters sort of an attack mode. This reminds me of Aegislash with Stance form. Hopefully, it is similar.

Regarding the captains, I wonder if Tapu Koko guardians share the typing with the captains specialty. Like 4 guardians with Fire/Fairy, Electric/Fairy, Grass/Fairy and Water/Fairy. Or if their typing are related to Oricorio.

I'm loving the Z moves and goofy Exeggutor. Rowlet BLOOM DOOM GO

@ Minior: So it functions more like Zen mode (I understand the Aegislash comparison, but you can freely switch between the forms at any time, whereas Zen mode relies on its HP). K, I'll edit that.

And that, is a very good observation there Quintessence. If that's the case, then we'd encounter Sophocles first. And that's what I was thinking too, especially for Kiawe. I'd bet actual money he has a Baile in his team. Though Mallow's Grass and Lana's Water typing doesn't match with the Pa'u or Sensu style Oricorios.

[Nym]

And didn't add any speed, which it seems this does.

Probably, it doesn't specify yet, we just know that it takes a offensive form so it could be either more attack, special attack or speed.

[Water Mage]

Just a silly thing, but I have to say it.

There's already fanart of the new Pokemon and Forms.

How fast are these people? Seriously, it's scary and impressive at the same time!

EDIT: Forgot to post the sources:

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58203240

http://daftlynx.tumblr.com/post/148297101539

Edited August 1, 2016 by Water Mage

[Nym]

Just a silly thing, but I have to say it.

There's already fanart of the new Pokemon and Forms.

How fast are these people? Seriously, it's scary and impressive at the same time!

You know... I'm not even sure that passionate people are even humans.