Pokemon Sun and Moon General Discussion: Official Site updated to include every new 'mon

[Nym]

EDIT: Nym, Bellossom needs a Mega form, imo. It doesn't really need an Alola form, it already looks fitting for the region due to being based off of a hula dancer. I like some Johto or Sinnoh Alola forms tho. Maybe forms for the Buizel line, Shinx line, and Slugma line? I can see Slugma and Magcargo becoming Grass/Rock, actually.

Hold up, you just made me realize something that everyone didn't realize: if we now have a z bracelt, what is going to happen to mega evolutions? As far as I can tell, they didn't even tell us if mega evolutions will comeback. Did they already drop the concept?

Edited August 1, 2016 by Nym

[Vashiane]

Can't stop, won't stop

(I'm working on the Opinions Post now I swear but Memes)

[Magical Glace]

Hold up, you just made me realize something that everyone didn't realize: if we now have a z bracelt, what is going to happen to mega evolutions? As far as I can tell, they didn't even tell us if mega evolutions will comeback. Did they already drop the concept?

Maybe it's a postgame thing, key stones are added to the bracelet by Kukui after you beat the villain or champion.

I can't see them throwing out the whole mechanic so soon... or at all.

[Quintessence]

I'm starting to think the threat Oricorio might be with another dancer. Imagine doubles with Liligant or something, it can trigger Quiver Dance, Petal Dance and Terter Dance! Imagine like double attacking with Petal Dance and Revelation Dance for some strong combos!

[Water Mage]

Hold up, you just made me realize something that everyone didn't realize: if we now have a z bracelt, what is going to happen to mega evolutions? As far as I can tell, they didn't even tell us if mega evolutions will comeback. Did they already drop the concept?

I think they are coming back.

Speaking of Mega Evolutions, did anyone else noticed that the Pokemon that gained Alola Forms are Pokemon that don't have Mega Evolutions?

Ninetales, Exeggutor, Sandslash and possibly Marowak, none have Mega Evolutions.

Could it be intentional?

[Quintessence]

Maybe it's a postgame thing, key stones are added to the bracelet by Kukui after you beat the villain or champion.I can't see them throwing out the whole mechanic so soon... or at all.

I saw Litten being Lv. 15 so idk.

[shadowofchaos]

アローラの

九尾の狐

冷たいだ

Aloula no

Kyuubi no kitsune

Tsumetai da

Alola's

Nine tailed Fox

is cold

That's a terrible haiku.

But it works.

Edited August 1, 2016 by shadowofchaos

[Magical Glace]

I saw Litten being Lv. 15 so idk.

Huh? What does that have to do with post-game Mega Evolution?

[Nym]

I think they are coming back.

Speaking of Mega Evolutions, did anyone else noticed that the Pokemon that gained Alola Forms are Pokemon that don't have Mega Evolutions?

Ninetales, Exeggutor, Sandslash and possibly Marowak, none have Mega Evolutions.

Could it be intentional?

Aside from Ninetales and maybe Exeggutor, the other 2 are not exactly the better choice in term of ground types so maybe they will to make them more popular by bringing a new form.

[Water Mage]

Here's an Exeggutor meme I found:

"You are Alola's grey waves."

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/153/780/7e5.jpg_large

[Anacybele]

Well, this surely won't get old fast...

[Ebony]

アローラの

九尾の狐

冷たいだ

Aloula no

Kyuubi no kitsune

Tsumetai da

Alola's

Nine tailed Fox

is cold

That's a terrible haiku.

But it works.

its snowing on mt fuji

Well, this surely won't get old fast...

hey man don't be a grumpy gills about it, they're just harmless memes :u

I think they are coming back.

Speaking of Mega Evolutions, did anyone else noticed that the Pokemon that gained Alola Forms are Pokemon that don't have Mega Evolutions?

Ninetales, Exeggutor, Sandslash and possibly Marowak, none have Mega Evolutions.

Could it be intentional?

Weren't there rumors of Mega Evolutions just being gone?

[Magical Glace]

Well, this surely won't get old fast...

Eh, people are just riding on how ridiculous it looks, it'll die down soon enough.

[Vashiane]

And welcome to the Opinion Corner with Vash, I'm Vash, and Pokemon Things Have Happened Yet Again.

But first before we get into the brunt of things we have a special news bulletin:

It a ghost.

Thank you for your time.

Okay now for Actual Talk.

• How on Earth did Exeggutor gain a solid 30 ft in height and the dragon type? What is in the soil over there? Although hey, it looks like a real palm tree. Cute. (Though imagine climbing a palm tree trying to get what you think is a coconut and then the tree starts walking. Yikes.)
• I'm going to have to make a B Team for the Vulpix/Ninetails. And the birds. You can bet your ass I'm getting all four of the birds because I have no chill and need to be stopped.
• And the Sandshrew is an igloo I'm. IT'S SO CUTE AND CHUBBY. Can I just... hold it. I want to hold it. It needs hugs.
• If there isn't some way to give Tierno an Oricorio, I'm going to write the fanfiction for it myself because he deserves one. He deserves all of them. #GiveTiernoAnOricorio2K16
• Okay so, I actually didn't care about Yungoos at all but... its evolution is name Gumshoos. It's -- it can have the Stakeout ability. Just. C'mon. It's perfect. (Also Looker needs a new Pokemon... and lo and behold... a Pokemon perfect for Looker... what a coincidence...)
• Mudbray's alright. Personally I'm not too keen on horses but I really like the fact that we get to ride a Mudsdale around.
• I also really love Lurantis? It's so pretty? GOSH DARN IT why does this gen have amazing Pokemon, I'm going to need like all of them.
• If the trials really are replacing gyms, I'm both happy and a little bit disappointed. Happy because man, this is so culturally unique and gives such a special flair to the Alola region. My only disappointment is Dark Gym When, Game Freak.
• I really like the designs of the trial captains. I can sense the fan favorite is going to be Kiawe but dang, Lana is so cute. And so is Sophocles honestly. I'm going to love him in advance because I'm certain very few people will.
• Not having to need HMs? Man, I am fine with that. We'll probably still need like Cut and Strength and etc, I feel, but not needing to have a flyer/surfer around constantly expands your options quite a bit.
• I'm actually a little sad it's not synergy but Z-Moves. I mean they look badass but that potential to truly bond with your Pokemon in ways never before imagined was an amazing concept. Shoot. (Though it might not be completely out... we don't know what that Z-Power really IS, for one thing.)

I can't think of anything else I feel strongly about. Other than that this is the best region since sliced bread!

Also More Ghost.

Love this tiny ghost birb.

[Honey Bunny]

Actually, Hawaii has many snowy mountains.

I'm aware. I was attempting, as the peasants call it, "a joke"

That Exeggutor is the stupidest thing. Oddly enough I'm not a fan.

I like the idea of Alolan variants as a whole, but I wish they'd get their own names. Seriously just call them Snowshrew and Snowslash. It's not difficult.

No gyms is a welcome for me. It changes up the formula a bit.

I want an Oricorio just because it sounds like the trolliest thing.

Give me a Minior and give it to me now.

[Anacybele]

I of course love Mudbray because horse bias and it looks like a mix of a clydesdale and a donkey. <3

Oricorio is pretty neat, but I'm not sure which of its forms I'd pick. In fact, I don't know what my team will be now because all of a sudden I'm seeing a ton of Pokemon I like. Mudbray/Mudsdale is a definite, as are either Popplio or Litten, but otherwise... I might just end up catching a bunch of Pokemon I think will be on my final team, but will end up replacing with something I like better. XD

[carefreejules]

I remember in one of the Gamexplain analysis videos for the previous trailer, they were speculating that you can apparently see another notch/groove in the bracelet that could potentially be for the Mega Evolution stone. So, they might work simultaneously but we shall see.

Edited August 1, 2016 by carefreejules

[Magical Glace]

More stuff to be revealed on the 12th of this month, 10 am JST.

https://twitter.com/Pokemon_cojp/status/760112864845627392

I don't feel like doing time conversions.

[Jave]

More stuff to be revealed on the 12th of this month, 10 am JST.

https://twitter.com/Pokemon_cojp/status/760112864845627392

I don't feel like doing time conversions.

That would be August 11th, 9:00 PM EDT

[Thinks Their Own Way]

I love the icy Ninetales designs, gorgeous. I want that pom-pom bird.

[Ebony]

http://battle-institute.tumblr.com/post/148300945124/cacnea-experience-the-z-ring-for-real-on-your

Now featuring a real toy!

[The DanMan]

Alright, here's a quick run-down on all the information from the new video!

Alola Forms

Certain Pokemon from previous generations have adapted to the Alola climate in new and surprising ways, gaining new appearances, new typing, and new abilities.

So far there's been 5 new Alola forms announced.

Alolian Exeggutor

Alolian Vulpix & Alolian Ninetails

Alolian Sandshrew & Alolian Sandslash

It's also worth a note that every Alola form we've seen here has a brand-new typing! Well, sort-of. Exeggutor shares a typing with Mega Sceptile, but as Sceptile isn't normally a Grass/Dragon, it's up to personal preference whether to consider it as new. However, Ice/Fairy and Ice/Steel are without a doubt completely new typings.

New Region Pokemon

We've also seen some new Alola Pokemon, including evolutions and pre-evolutions to Pokemon we've seen before. Counting the various forms of Oricorio as separate Pokemon (and not the different Minior cores as at the moment they seem to be only vary aesthetically) we have a total of 9 new Pokemon shown.

Oricorio

Oricorio is a bird Pokemon with typing variations depending on what island it's found on (unfortunately, matching a variation to a specific island is tricky due to the nondescript locations shown, however, it's possible that they're listed in the order of the islands you can visit). It's also unknown (but very likely) that each variation will have a different stat distribution. It has a new unique move Revelation Dance that changes its typing depending on the variation that uses it (ie. Baile = Fire RD; Pom-Pom = Electric RD; Pa'u = Psychic RD; Sensu = Ghost RD) It also has a brand-new ability, Dancer, which allows it to copy the stat-boosting Dance moves that its opponent uses for free.

Minior

So far, it appears that the Minior cores are not variations like Oricorio, and are simply aesthetic differences similar to Gen VI's Flabebe. Shields Down is also a brand new ability that functions similarly to Darmantian's Zen Mode. At half HP, Minior strips away its armor to take on a more offensive stance.

Gumshoos

As shown, this is the second (and seemingly final) evolution of Yungoos. It also has a brand-new ability Stakeout, though what it does is currently unknown.

Fomantis & Lurantis

This is a Pokemon of interest as well due to it having a never-before-seen move, Solar Blade, which appears to be a Physical Grass-type move. There's also a possibility of Fomantis and Lurantis being exclusive to Pokemon Moon due to it being nocturnal, but this isn't yet confirmed, though still worth noting.

Mudbray

Mudbray is the pre-evolution of Mudsdale. (Also I'm not certain if the move it uses in the trailer is something new, or simply a new animation for Earthquake. Also worth noting just in case.

Ride Pokemon

The trailer also shows off a new mechanic called Ride Pokemon, which is mentioned to be a service. It appears that this new mechanic will allow the player to traverse obscure or perilous areas with ease, and the Ride Pokemon can offer transportation over land, sea, and air. This also raises the question about the purpose of HM moves such as Surf or Fly - it may be likely that instead, you'll simply be able to summon a Ride Pokemon to take you wherever you need to go. Currently, the Pokemon available for this service are Tauros, Mudsdale, Stoutland (as seen from a previously revealed image below), Sharpedo, and Charizard.

The Island Challenge

The Island Challenge is a quest your trainer can embark on to strengthen themselves, by travelling to the four islands and completing various trials in order to be able to challenge the Island Challenge Champion named Woo. Each Trial has a captain, that seemingly gives you the trial and then allows you to battle them to prove your worthiness for the next island's trial. Like Oricorio, it's difficult to place the island each Trial and its captain will be found on, however, we do have clues.

Trial Captain Mallow

Mallow specializes in Grass-type Pokemon and her island's Trial is found in a location known as Lush Jungle, and her trial may consist of finding four rare ingredients for her (or this could be a personal quest).

Trial Captain Lana

Lana specializes in Water-type Pokemon and her trial may consist of finding the source of disturbances in the local waters (or this could be a personal quest for her.)

Trial Captain Sophocles

Sophocles specializes in Electric-type Pokemon, and while his introduction reveals very little, his trial may take place inside or around what looks to be his laboratory.

Trial Captain Kiawe

Kiawe specializes in Fire-type Pokemon and his trial is specifically stated to be "quite different" than the others you have faced before, and explicitly is a test of observations of various dances. Kiawe is also interesting as it's a bit easier to pinpoint where he might be, as there's only one island that has a volcano (and seemingly, lava).

At the end of each trial, there will be a battle with a Token Pokemon, a special Pokemon with a powerful aura that boosts its stats and gives it the ability to call ally Pokemon to its aid in battle, resulting in multiple Pokemon against your one. Currently, two Pokemon we know will be Token Pokemon are Gumshoos, with an aura that boosts its defense and is likely fought at the end of Kiawe's trial, and Lurantis, which is likely fought at the end of Mallow's trial.

When each trial is cleared, you can fight the Kahunas, elite trainers of each island that will serve as the final test. The Kahuna for the first island (Melemele Island) is confirmed to be Hala, the old man who gives you your starter Pokemon at the beginning of the game. He calls the battle against him a "grand trial", before officially showing off his battle animation and introducing himself as Island Kahuna Hala.

Z-Moves

Z-Moves are a brand-new mechanic, appearing to stem from the bracelet the player character wears. Z-Moves are an extremely powerful attack with 18 variations, one for each Pokemon type. The power that creates this attack is known as Z-Power, and is summoned by a unique dance done by the trainer. 4 of the 18 Z-Moves were shown in the trailer.

Electric-type Z-Move: Gigavolt Havoc

Grass-type Z-Move: Bloom Doom

Fire-type Z-Move: Inferno Overdrive

Water-type Z-Move: Hydro Vortex

It appears to function for dual-type Pokemon based off the first type listed. I.E. a Flying/Psychic type will having a Flying Z-Move, while a Psychic/Flying type will have a Psychic Z-Move. (Also worth noting, is that the Z-moves shown also correspond with the specialties of the Trial Captains).

And I do believe that is absolutely everything! Sorry about this taking so long, there was a lot to record here. I'll post my own opinions in a separate post.

Another award-winning post for the OP. Thanks a bunch.

You know... I'm not even sure that passionate people are even humans.

This; from personal experience, the RWBY fandom has art for new characters/designs up within an hour of their first public appearance. It's ridiculous how dedicated some fanartists are.

Edited August 1, 2016 by The DanMan

[Quintessence]

Huh? What does that have to do with post-game Mega Evolution?

I thought you meant if the mechanic was going to be introduced by early game or post game. Where was it mentioned that Z-Moves are after you beat the champion?

[Magical Glace]

I thought you meant if the mechanic was going to be introduced by early game or post game. Where was it mentioned that Z-Moves are after you beat the champion?

I was talking about Mega Evolution, since people seem worried about it. It hasn't been shown at all, so I'm kinda wondering if it'll be post-game only thing where the key stone is added to the Z-bracelet.

I wasn't talking about Z-attacks themselves.

[Nym]

Oh yeah, Vash, about Stakeout:

It allows the user to ''deal twice the normal damage if the opponent just switched into battle''.

So it's the exact opposite of Pursuit but it's an ability instead of an attack.