Irony Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 So, I'm on Chapter 19, and I want to know how my party are doing average stat wise, and to know which ones are the best and which ones are the worst in your opinion. Every one hit level 20. For those who saw my previous thread on the forum, I have decided not to use Rhys and I did use Astrid in the end. So, here we go: Ike: Level 2 Lord 37 HP 16 Strength 7 Magic 21 Skill 22 Speed 12 Luck 20 Defence 10 Resistence Jill: Level 2 Wyvern Lord 35 HP 18 Strength 3 Magic 16 Skill 17 Speed 9 Luck 15 Defence 7 Resistence Oscar: Level 2 Paladin (Bows Secondary Weapon) 36 HP 17 Strength 9 Magic 19 Skill 16 Speed 12 Luck 15 Defence 9 Resistance Boyd: Level 2 Warrior 46 HP 18 Strength 3 Magic 17 Skill 16 Speed (+1 Speedwing) 10 Luck 16 Defence 8 Resistance Nephenee: Level 2 Harberdeir 33 HP 12 Strength 5 Magic 18 Skill 23 Speed 9 Luck 16 Defence 7 Resistance Ilyana: Level 2 Mage (Staffs selected) 33 HP 6 Strength 15 Magic 18 Skill 17 Speed 13 Luck 9 Defence 21 Resistance Rolf: Level 2 Sniper 34 HP 16 Strength 7 Magic 19 Skill 20 Speed 12 Luck 12 Defence 9 Resistance Astrid: Level 2 Paladin (Axes chosen) 36 HP 17 Strength 13 Magic 19 Skill 20 Speed 15 Luck 18 Defence 13 Resitance Mia: Level 2 Swordsmaster 41 HP (+1 Seraph Robe) 13 Strength 7 Magic 19 Skill 22 Speed 14 Luck 9 Defence 6 Resistance Gatrie: Level 2 General 41 HP 23 Strength 2 Magic 17 Skill 8 Speed (Poor guy!) 9 Luck 22 Defence 8 Resistance Soren: Level 2 Sage (Staffs chosen) 31 HP 2 Strength 22 Magic 21 Skill 21 Speed 11 Luck 9 Defence 20 Resistance Mist: Level 1 Valkyrie 31 HP 8 Strength (+1 Energy Drop) 20 Magic 12 Skill 17 Speed 20 Luck 6 Defence 19 Resistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) You could check your units for yourself. very short summary Ike: low strength but very high defense; everything else looks normal to me Jill looks fine overall Oscar has good defense, everything else looks ok Boyd looks fine overall Nephenee has an awful strength Ilyana's speed > magic ?!? she looks fine, but her magic could be better Rolf looks fine overall Astrid looks really good Mia's typical (her low strength and defense are normal) Gatrie's slow indeed (give him the knight shield Astrid got because it increases the speed growth) Soren is OP Mist's typical; actually even worse (Imo I never would invest energy drops in her because her combatpower is too bad. The best way to make use of her is to give both arms scrolls to her at once to let her use sonic swords immediately. She's only good in combat with magical swords.) Also Mia is best magic sword user. Edited October 10, 2016 by Ayama Wirdo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sansa Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 >not using Rhys in Physic Emblem lol Can't imagine using that many low level units. I'm guessing you're on normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irony Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 >not using Rhys in Physic Emblem lol Can't imagine using that many low level units. I'm guessing you're on normal mode. I am indeed. Not brave enough to try out Hard Mode. I do have some strategies for level grinding (mainly involving Ena and Chapter 21) so hopefully they'll all reach max level and have the stats transferred into Radiant Dawn. The rankings are for the "what if that isn't possible" scenario. (And before you ask, I love level grinding and so it wouldn't be tedious for me?) And Rhys just fell behind... By six levels. Kinda knew it would be difficult to get him back up there, so I gave up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Rhys is garbage, don't use him. Best healer is Soren actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Mist's typical; actually even worse (Imo I never would invest energy drops in her because her combatpower is too bad. The best way to make use of her is to give both arms scrolls to her at once to let her use sonic swords immediately. She's only good in combat with magical swords.) I usually just give Mist a forged Iron Sword, and have it, not so she can attack, but just so she can counter-attack if she's within enemy range on enemy phase. I think blowing both Arms Scrolls on her is a waste. I like using them on Mages, since I like full elemental coverage, and weapon XP takes forever to build in PoR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irony Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 ... I just used both Arm Scrolls on her.... She's become my most reliable Wyvern Lord killer as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I think blowing both Arms Scrolls on her is a waste. I like using them on Mages, since I like full elemental coverage, and weapon XP takes forever to build in PoR. Honestly no one else does really need them. If you focus Soren and Ilyana on magic, they'll reach maximum tome level (Soren only needs A anyways) without problems. As I said, it doesn't mean that I normally do it, it's just the easiest way to make Mist useful in combat at once. I usually only use her for healing and nothing else. Ike, Mia and especially Tanith aren't too bad magic sword users either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Honestly no one else does really need them. If you focus Soren and Ilyana on magic, they'll reach maximum tome level (Soren only needs A anyways) without problems. As I said, it doesn't mean that I normally do it, it's just the easiest way to make Mist useful in combat at once. I usually only use her for healing and nothing else. Ike, Mia and especially Tanith aren't too bad magic sword users either. I pretty much use a maximum of two mages max, so I need at least one of them to use more than one school of magic, which take forever to level. I like getting every school to at least level C, and want them to reach it before endgame, so I can use the good tomes, especially the siege tomes. I find that better than making Mist marginally more useful. The magic swords are extremely limited, and I like using them on sword-locked characters to give them at least some form of ranged combat, and if Mist is using only the Magic swords, she's going to run out of weapon uses very quickly. Funnily enough, in my latest playthrough Mist capped Strength and had higher Strength than Ike, until she capped, and the only reason that Ike surpassed her eventually was that she was stuck at her woefully low Strength cap, and I gave Ike an Energy Drop. ... I just used both Arm Scrolls on her.... She's become my most reliable Wyvern Lord killer as a result. Don't worry, you can play however you like, and Mist is a decent enough unit. She just requires either being RNG blessed or boosters to be optimal. Edited October 12, 2016 by Rezzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Actually you don't need train the mages in multiple magic types until they've classchanged.After promotion they have weapon level D automatically. And I highly recommend to bring one element to maximum level first to have early access to the A / S tome. What does it bring if Soren has weapon level B in wind and C in the other two? He still couldn't use tornado. The best tomes would be longrange magic which are rare (except you restore them with hammerne) and superheavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I pretty much use a maximum of two mages max, so I need at least one of them to use more than one school of magic, which take forever to level. I like getting every school to at least level C, and want them to reach it before endgame, so I can use the good tomes, especially the siege tomes. I find that better than making Mist marginally more useful. The magic swords are extremely limited, and I like using them on sword-locked characters to give them at least some form of ranged combat, and if Mist is using only the Magic swords, she's going to run out of weapon uses very quickly. Personally, I agree with Jules - I think trying to raise the mages' weapon ranks in magic types other than what they specialize in before promotion is unnecessary when they're brought up to D rank automatically after promoting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ping Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) A Wind forge is stronger and more accurate than Tornado, a Fire forge only loses to Bolganone in might by one point, same goes for Thunder forge / Thoron (althogh Rexbolt is a thing for the final map).Honestly, the only tome rank that really matters is the C-Rank for long ranged tomes and maaaybe an S-Rank in thunder magic. Everything else doesn't really help outside of transfers to RD. I guess the A-Rank tomes' animations look more impressive? ;)€: Oh man, sorry about the derail, Irony. To write something more productive: You might want to keep an eye on Ike's strength grow. He's currently at -2 and not capping that by the endgame will make things more difficult. Not unwinnable as a whole (you do play on normal, don't you?), but you might have throw an optional fight.The Energy Ring on Mist might be somewhat of a misinvestment. In my opinion, it's usually more helpful to improve a character's strengths even further instead of trying to salvage a weakness (the one exception: use Angelic Robes to make squishy units not die to a thrown ball of yarn). Even with the ring, Mist will still not be a great fighter with non-magical swords.Ayama Wirdo gave you a good advise for Gatrie: The Knight's Ward increases the speed growth dramatically (I think 30%). If Mia or Nephenee have trouble one-rounding enemies, just give them some forges. Money isn't an issue. But as a whole: Lookin' good! ;) Edited October 14, 2016 by ping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irony Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 Yeah, I stayed clear of the Derail, as I didn't know what was even going on? All I know is that my Mist can use Sonic Swords now, and that she's cool. :) Anyways: I'm on Chapter 21, and I've begun the Level Grind. I don't have exact stats on me but: 1) Gatrie now has the Knight's Ward. He now has 10 speed! :) I also forged him a uber light and powerful iron lance (The Final Breath) so he won't have weight issues? 2) Ilyana did gain some more magic, but her speed is still higher than her magic. One small problem is that only one of her tomes can damage Ena.... And that has 20~ish uses left. :/ 3) Mist is my highest level unit, and Sothe and her combined have roughly 120~ish uses of the Mend staff left. Perfect for level grinding! :) I also forged her a uber powerful iron sword (The Raging Blitz) that complements her 9-10 strength nicely. 4) I think Ike has gained strength on every single level up since. Plus I got all the treasure in Chapter 19, so I should have an Energy Drop to give to him. 5) Mia and Neph are my lowest level units I think? 6) I'm on Normal yes. :) 7) Next people who are getting forges: Mia, Neph and Ilyana (I think you can forge Tomes?) 8) Astrid is the Horsewoman of Death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ping Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Reducing weight on Gatrie's lance wasn't necessary - your speed gets reduced for every point of weight above your strength. For example, Mist actually gained 2 effective speed through the Energy Ring when using a Sonic Sword (9 weight), but only one speed when wielding an Iron sword (7 weight - so it would have slowed her down one point if she only had 6 strength). Or put differently, a weak unit gets slowed down by heavy weapons, but a strong unit doesn't get faster when using light weapons. Yes, you can forge the basic tomes. That's why I don't think the A-Rank tomes (Bolganone, Tornado, Thoron) aren't that important; if you put +5 Might on a basic tome, it'll have around the same power as the A-Rank tome. Mist with the Sonic Sword is just so much fun :) Still very squishy, but overkilling wyverns is amazing. Edited October 14, 2016 by ping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irony Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 Oh, right. :) I guess if Gatrie doesn't need it at some point, another unit can benefit from it? :) I agree with you on the "Mist over killing Wyverns front". It's so much fun. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ping Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Oh, right. :) I guess if Gatrie doesn't need it at some point, another unit can benefit from it? :) From the low weight probably not. Weight is mostly an issue at the start of the game because sooner or later, most units will be able to wield every weapon just fine. The only exception are the mages, or at least Soren (if he wants to use something else than a Wind tome) as well as post-promo Rhys and Mist. But really, that just means you spent a bit more gold than necessary. The lance doesn't get worse from the lower weight, either, so there's really no reason to worry at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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