DevilinXIII Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Hi there, first post here but looking for some opinions. I apologize if this was somewhere already, as I know there are a number of these threads around, but I didn't quite find one for (M)Robin. I just got a 4* (M)Robin with +Def/-Res, and I was wondering if it was worth promoting to 5*. I know a lot varies on my current roster, but ignoring those factors I was just wondering if this is a good boon/bane. Read a lot elsewhere that +Spd/-Res is arguably the best (as it cancels being doubled by Takumi), but also read that +Def allows him to tank quite a bit more (like being doubled by Takumi...lol) Since (M)Robin is ranked quite high on the tier list and no longer available as a 5* pull, he was a unit I wanted to promote to 5*, but seeing as 3* and 4* are quite a bit more common I was wondering if you guys thought it might be worth waiting until I pull a (M)Robin with the best boon/bane. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punished Dayni Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 +Def is still fine, as he'll have better tanking and Defence is used for Bonfire. +Attack is also good as a boon (I can certainly attest to that one), and most Takumi's can't double unless you've got -Speed. While I'd recommend waiting to see if you get one with a +Att or +Spd with -Res, training this one up isn't a bad call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) It depends what you're using him for. I think for a lot of people, Robin's primarily niche is a Takumi counter, in which case +SPD is probably optimal as it allows you to avoid being doubled by any Takumi. However, as long as Takumi isn't +SPD, he shouldn't be able to double a Robin with neutral speed, in which case +DEF helps offset the damage. I honestly don't think +ATK is as good as people make it out to be because as far as I know (though if I'm wrong, someone feel free to correct me) it doesn't give him any ORKOs he woudn't have with neutral. Whether he's neutral or + attack, it'll still take two hits for him to kill Takumi. Also +DEF has the added bonus of increasing Bonfire's damage a small amount. tldr: +SPD is probably optimal, but +DEF is fine Edited March 15, 2017 by MaskedAmpharos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Directive Mayhem Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) Two hits from +Spd Takumi only amounts to 10 damage against +Def Robin--not threatening at all. The more pressing concern is +Spd Kagero who's able to ORKO neutral Robin (as well as -HP or -Def variants without +Spd). +Def/-Res Robin would live an attack from +Spd Kagero with only 4HP remaining, and luckily able to defeat her upon retaliation. Edited March 15, 2017 by Directive Mayhem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyCheez3K Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I have discussed this question myself for a while now, and with my 5 M!Robins I definitely want to decide before I merge them together at 5stars. My current one is +HP/-Res and I am satisfied, but I have been wondering what might be better. Since my primary use is him as a tanky mage/Takumi killer +HP ain't bad tbh, especially since I have no +Def to show for. My three (yes, all three of them) with +HP/-Att are definitely out of the question, as for the last one: +Att/-Res is the one I'm debating over, as well as the possibility of future pulls (since he is rather easy to get as 3 star, apparently). My guess is that anything that hasn't got -Att/-Spd/-Def is useable, but I can imagine a favorable situation for most of them, which makes it hard for me to pinpoint the "best" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, MonkeyCheez3K said: I have discussed this question myself for a while now, and with my 5 M!Robins I definitely want to decide before I merge them together at 5stars. My current one is +HP/-Res and I am satisfied, but I have been wondering what might be better. Since my primary use is him as a tanky mage/Takumi killer +HP ain't bad tbh, especially since I have no +Def to show for. My three (yes, all three of them) with +HP/-Att are definitely out of the question, as for the last one: +Att/-Res is the one I'm debating over, as well as the possibility of future pulls (since he is rather easy to get as 3 star, apparently). My guess is that anything that hasn't got -Att/-Spd/-Def is useable, but I can imagine a favorable situation for most of them, which makes it hard for me to pinpoint the "best" I'd recommend looking up stats of common Arena matchups (like Takumi) and seeing if +ATK changes any 2RKOs into ORKOs. Afaik his matchup against Takumi is unchanged as it takes two hits regardless of whether or not he's +ATK, but maybe there are other matchups that would swing in your favor? If not, then I'd go with +HP just for the added survivability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 We have a thread specifically for short questions like this - post in there instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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